nebristolred Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, WarksRobin said: So you would allow an unsporting outcome to stand? If that’s the case why would Mercedes and Ferrari comply with the cap in future? The drivers championship is far more important than the constructors. I'm not saying what I'd do, just what I think might happen. 58 minutes ago, phantom said: Excuse my ignorance, but if the team were excluded who would they drive for? Not at all, I mean that the team may be excluded from the constructors championship results (i.e. earn zero points and come last, it happened to McLaren in 2007). The drivers championship would remain the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 For risk of sounding like an infamous poster on the football side, all this cost cap stuff is just rumours so maybe we need to wait for something more official before making assumptions I’m pretty meh about the whole thing currently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiderJake Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 On 01/10/2022 at 12:56, phantom said: Question is would this be paid out if the two Red Bull drivers were penalised Isn't that a refund? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 Somewhat predictably the announcement has been delayed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 Max Verstappen, World Champion again. A bit of an odd end to the GP with no one sure why full points were awarded but there you go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, WarksRobin said: Max Verstappen, World Champion again. A bit of an odd end to the GP with no one sure why full points were awarded but there you go Only F1 could replace rules that made sense but weren’t properly applied with ones that don’t make any sense 40 minutes racing but stopped by the clock is full points but 40 minutes racing stopped early isn’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 hours ago, East Londoner said: Only F1 could replace rules that made sense but weren’t properly applied with ones that don’t make any sense 40 minutes racing but stopped by the clock is full points but 40 minutes racing stopped early isn’t They've managed to make up the rules two years in a row now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 28 minutes ago, Midred said: They've managed to make up the rules two years in a row now! All this year did was delay the inevitable, the best driver won Last year however… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 Red Bull have been found in 'minor' breach of Formula 1's cost cap, the FIA has confirmed. As reported by Sky Sports News last week, Red Bull have overstepped last season's $145m cap by less than five per cent. A punishment has not yet been revealed, although a severe penalty is not expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Super said: As reported by Sky Sports News last week, Red Bull have overstepped last season's $145m cap by less than five per cent. Brown envelope to Michael Masi took them over budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 Stinks,but I don't imagine anything significant will happen to the guilty parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 This news would discredit last year’s championship, but it’s literally impossible to discredit last year’s championship any more than it already is. We all know who actually won the title last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, bearded_red said: This news would discredit last year’s championship, but it’s literally impossible to discredit last year’s championship any more than it already is. We all know who actually won the title last season. Yeah Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Maltshoveller said: Yeah Max Good one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 3 hours ago, bearded_red said: This news would discredit last year’s championship, but it’s literally impossible to discredit last year’s championship any more than it already is. We all know who actually won the title last season. It's not Max's fault at all really, so I don't blame him, but this really does make me sympathise with Lewis. Twice now he's been robbed of an extra Championship, which would make him the greatest ever. Once through his team's incompetence, and secondly through the FIA's and Red Bull's incompetence (if we're being kind). And worst of all, he's put in the situation where if he ever speaks about it, the whole of the Internet piles in on him, because it's so easy to hate on the guy. Given what happened with Karen and Masi, there's no way I'd be able to keep my mouth shut if I were him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted October 11, 2022 Admin Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 That's a serious amount of food Red Bull have had over the season, works out circa £45k per race for their £2m overspend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 hours ago, phantom said: That's a serious amount of food Red Bull have had over the season, works out circa £45k per race for their £2m overspend Double that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 Minus the £10,000 that Lewis has been fined for wearing a nose stud! Obviously Red Bulls bling didn't count! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 I watched Rush again last night and was once again amazed at the technical side of that film in the racing footage. The only thing that spoils it for me a little is that throughout the film they portray them constantly at loggerheads and that Lauda was an unsmiling machine, but then at the end they show actual pictures of them talking and laughing together. It suggests a far deeper relationship than the film has spent 2 hours showing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Port Said Red said: I watched Rush again last night and was once again amazed at the technical side of that film in the racing footage. The only thing that spoils it for me a little is that throughout the film they portray them constantly at loggerheads and that Lauda was an unsmiling machine, but then at the end they show actual pictures of them talking and laughing together. It suggests a far deeper relationship than the film has spent 2 hours showing. Brilliant film. You've probably seen it anyway, but Senna was also just amazing to watch. Quite emotional when the inevitable is shown as well actually. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 Red Bull have been handed a $7 million fine and restrictions on car development time for breaching last season's Formula 1 cost cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 55 minutes ago, Super said: Red Bull have been handed a $7 million fine and restrictions on car development time for breaching last season's Formula 1 cost cap. No filing for administration then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 On 10/10/2022 at 18:45, bearded_red said: We all know who actually won the title last season. On 10/10/2022 at 18:55, Maltshoveller said: Yeah race director Masi won it for Max Slight correction MS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 Best news all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 Does anybody have a likely stream for this? My favourites (Hesgoal, VIP etc.) have all crashed. Thanks in advance if anybody can help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 Red Bull are just so ****ing detestable aren't they . Struggling to cope with 2 big fat asterisks next to their 2 titles. 3 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Does anybody have a likely stream for this? My favourites (Hesgoal, VIP etc.) have all crashed. Thanks in advance if anybody can help. Try one of these mate. Formula 1 2022 - Mexico GP live stream - Reddit F1 Streams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, nebristolred said: Red Bull are just so ****ing detestable aren't they . Struggling to cope with 2 big fat asterisks next to their 2 titles. Try one of these mate. Formula 1 2022 - Mexico GP live stream - Reddit F1 Streams Thanks, but I a having problems with REDDIT as well. I have finally found a stream using ESPN, so hoping the second half of the race is worth all the hassle - 37 laps gone so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted October 30, 2022 Admin Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 On 28/10/2022 at 17:04, TomF said: Absolute joke. The rest of the paddock should just **** off and leave them on their own All the teams agreed on the format of a minor and major breach, so they can’t complain about the outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 10 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said: All the teams agreed on the format of a minor and major breach, so they can’t complain about the outcome. They agreed on the boundaries, but not the punishment. That was left vague, hence the current mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 The madness is that the fine doesn’t count against their cap so they will save money on wind tunnel testing which they can spend on other development, like lightweight parts. And as the reduction is a proportion of their permitted wind tunnel testing (as champions they have the least time next season anyway) they don’t lose out as much as say Williams would have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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