KegCity Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 43 minutes ago, steveybadger said: Or working class for that matter You'll be hard pressed to find anyone genuinely working class in the post-punk scene at the moment, with the exception of Sleaford Mods. Nothing wrong with it mind, Joe Strummer was privately educated and grew up in middle class surroundings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internetjef Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 Playing a big gig on downs 3rd September Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 2 hour live episode of OSIB is the opening act..... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, petehinton said: 2 hour live episode of OSIB is the opening act..... If it’s you, @Olé and @Shtanley I am getting a ticket for sure! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 5 hours ago, mozo said: Couldn't care less if they were working class, lower middle, upper middle or whatever. There's plenty of shit working class bands out there with meaningless lyrics and no social awareness. Quite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 5 hours ago, KegCity said: You'll be hard pressed to find anyone genuinely working class in the post-punk scene at the moment, with the exception of Sleaford Mods. Nothing wrong with it mind, Joe Strummer was privately educated and grew up in middle class surroundings. I’ve played in the same band (now called Levi Valentino) since 1997, and I think it’s probably a rich mans game now playing in bands, the equipments expensive, the practicing is expensive, you get next to no money from gigs (in comparison to the time you spend getting there, setting up, playing, packing up) you get no money from streaming. If you were genuinely from a poor working class background, the last thing you’d do (or be able to do) is form a band, much better going solo or doing more electronic stuff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted March 31, 2021 Report Share Posted March 31, 2021 On 27/03/2021 at 18:43, Roger Red Hat said: Yeah, but what about The Sleaford Moggs? Both total shittee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 8 hours ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: Both total shittee Sleafords piss all over idles all day long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Fran City Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 On 27/03/2021 at 18:47, mozo said: Ah mate! I saw the holy trinity of Idles, Sleaford Mods and [Liam] Fontaines DC that year. Loved it. Was a great Glastonbury all round though mind. Have just purchased some F DC re-sale tickets for the Academy in October. Not been this excited about a gig since forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, archie andrews said: Sleafords piss all over idles all day long They must take on a lot of fluids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 2 hours ago, mozo said: They must take on a lot of fluids I dont know what they drink just better in my book... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 1 hour ago, archie andrews said: I dont know what they drink just better in my book... That's cool. Jason Williamson really impressed me when I saw them. It's basically a one man show; he's up at the front of the stage on his own, not just carrying the whole performance with his vocals but effectively acting out characters as well, like some sort of lo-fi grime-punk cabaret with a load of c-bombs. There's plenty of room in this world for both Idles and Sleafords and the mild friction between them was a bit childish really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 Amazing how heated this has got. Remember, just because you don't like a band it doesn't mean they are shit. Also, you are allowed to like more than one band - not everything is a competition. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmosUK Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 On 27/03/2021 at 15:25, !james said: I assumed you listened to the podcast before you called it a 'load of shite'? What constructive criticism can you offer the OSIB team? Again a matter of opinion but I do find the OSIB podcast a little boring. I think its more for the hosts to have a laugh and attempt some one liners with a little bit of football thrown in. I far prefer the chat on the FBC podcast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 On 31/03/2021 at 09:46, KegCity said: You'll be hard pressed to find anyone genuinely working class in the post-punk scene at the moment, with the exception of Sleaford Mods. Nothing wrong with it mind, Joe Strummer was privately educated and grew up in middle class surroundings. Are they genuinely "working class" (whatever that means these days)? I was, actually a little unsurprised, to hear them interviewed and it's fair to say Williamson accentuates his midlands accent and Andrew doesn't even have one. Not the only measure of whether someone is working class, but as with Idles, I get the impression they are a bit more suburban middle-England than they make out. Stand to be corrected tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Are they genuinely "working class" (whatever that means these days)? I was, actually a little unsurprised, to hear them interviewed and it's fair to say Williamson accentuates his midlands accent and Andrew doesn't even have one. Not the only measure of whether someone is working class, but as with Idles, I get the impression they are a bit more suburban middle-England than they make out. Stand to be corrected tho Can't say for certain but I've read interviews where they claim to be one of the only "genuine" "working class" voices in the scene, although I have no idea whether it's true or not. I'd be inclined to agree with you, just because being a band is becoming an increasingly middle class pursuit due to the cost of getting instruments etc and having enough time on your hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 51 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Are they genuinely "working class" (whatever that means these days)? I was, actually a little unsurprised, to hear them interviewed and it's fair to say Williamson accentuates his midlands accent and Andrew doesn't even have one. Not the only measure of whether someone is working class, but as with Idles, I get the impression they are a bit more suburban middle-England than they make out. Stand to be corrected tho This interview suggests he ran the gamut of low-skill, poorly paid jobs before trying to make it as a performer. A friend's ex- played drums in one of his pre-SM bands and says Jason's quite "laddy". He is surprised by how politically minded he is these days. https://www.healio.com/news/primary-care/20210129/covid19-reduces-fertility-in-men-study-suggests With accents, I think you vary it subconsciously depending on who you spend the most time with. Now the pair make decent bunce, probably have more refined holiday destinations and spend time with journalists and record company staff, I'd be surprised if they were as broad off-stage as when performing. I can empathise. I left the West Country when I was 18 and my natural Somerset accent just faded over time and was very indistinct by the time I was reading news bulletins on Radio 4 - although I did have one arsewipe of a listener write in to complain about my "yokel pronunciation" . I've lived back down here for a decade now and my childhood accent has never entirely returned although my kids say I have a "pub voice" I use when chatting to guys I know who've never left Somerset. This is entirely subconscious. I've never deliberately tried to change my speaking voice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: This interview suggests he ran the gamut of low-skill, poorly paid jobs before trying to make it as a performer. A friend's ex- played drums in one of his pre-SM bands and says Jason's quite "laddy". He is surprised by how politically minded he is these days. https://www.healio.com/news/primary-care/20210129/covid19-reduces-fertility-in-men-study-suggests With accents, I think you vary it subconsciously depending on who you spend the most time with. Now the pair make decent bunce, probably have more refined holiday destinations and spend time with journalists and record company staff, I'd be surprised if they were as broad off-stage as when performing. I can empathise. I left the West Country when I was 18 and my natural Somerset accent just faded over time and was very indistinct by the time I was reading news bulletins on Radio 4 - although I did have one arsewipe of a listener write in to complain about my "yokel pronunciation" . I've lived back down here for a decade now and my childhood accent has never entirely returned although my kids say I have a "pub voice" I use when chatting to guys I know who've never left Somerset. This is entirely subconscious. I've never deliberately tried to change my speaking voice. It would be amusing to hear you at Ashton Gate shouting abuse at the ref in a Radio 4 news voice. Jason Williamson was interviewed on the Adam Buxton podcast and he didn't sound like a feral ne'er-do-well, but who cares? I think both bands are far more authentic in their social portraits than 99% of music out there, and it's typical OTIB to get bogged down in this petty criticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: Are they genuinely "working class" (whatever that means these days)? I was, actually a little unsurprised, to hear them interviewed and it's fair to say Williamson accentuates his midlands accent and Andrew doesn't even have one. Not the only measure of whether someone is working class, but as with Idles, I get the impression they are a bit more suburban middle-England than they make out. Stand to be corrected tho I think it's really hard to pigeonhole a lot of people nowadays. Back in the day it was easy. Factory workers, miners, labourers etc were working class. Clerical, bankers etc were middle class. It's more difficult now. Is an IT person earning £22k a year classed as middle class, whereas a factory worker on £28k a year gets classed as working class? If you work in a bank, but your parents were a cleaner and a building labourer, have you jumped up a class, or does your upbringing keep you as working class? It's all a bit silly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 9 hours ago, mozo said: It would be amusing to hear you at Ashton Gate shouting abuse at the ref in a Radio 4 news voice. Jason Williamson was interviewed on the Adam Buxton podcast and he didn't sound like a feral ne'er-do-well, but who cares? I think both bands are far more authentic in their social portraits than 99% of music out there, and it's typical OTIB to get bogged down in this petty criticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 2, 2021 Report Share Posted April 2, 2021 20 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: This interview suggests he ran the gamut of low-skill, poorly paid jobs before trying to make it as a performer. A friend's ex- played drums in one of his pre-SM bands and says Jason's quite "laddy". He is surprised by how politically minded he is these days. https://www.healio.com/news/primary-care/20210129/covid19-reduces-fertility-in-men-study-suggests With accents, I think you vary it subconsciously depending on who you spend the most time with. Now the pair make decent bunce, probably have more refined holiday destinations and spend time with journalists and record company staff, I'd be surprised if they were as broad off-stage as when performing. I can empathise. I left the West Country when I was 18 and my natural Somerset accent just faded over time and was very indistinct by the time I was reading news bulletins on Radio 4 - although I did have one arsewipe of a listener write in to complain about my "yokel pronunciation" . I've lived back down here for a decade now and my childhood accent has never entirely returned although my kids say I have a "pub voice" I use when chatting to guys I know who've never left Somerset. This is entirely subconscious. I've never deliberately tried to change my speaking voice. I know! I`ve lived down in Devon for thirty years but if I meet someone who`s broad Bristol..................................................... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 Looks like I'll have a spare ticket for Idles at Cardiff on Friday if anyone is interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packman Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, mozo said: Looks like I'll have a spare ticket for Idles at Cardiff on Friday if anyone is interested I had to get a refund on my 2 tickets as my Mrs decided to have a baby on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Packman said: I had to get a refund on my 2 tickets as my Mrs decided to have a baby on Saturday. Congrats I hope you named the child Danny Nedelko 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 23 minutes ago, mozo said: Congrats I hope you named the child Danny Nedelko While singing “he’s made of you, he’s made of me....unity!”! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 40 minutes ago, mozo said: Looks like I'll have a spare ticket for Idles at Cardiff on Friday if anyone is interested @Shtanley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixtyseconds Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 On 01/04/2021 at 12:45, Kid in the Riot said: Are they genuinely "working class" (whatever that means these days)? I was, actually a little unsurprised, to hear them interviewed and it's fair to say Williamson accentuates his midlands accent and Andrew doesn't even have one. Not the only measure of whether someone is working class, but as with Idles, I get the impression they are a bit more suburban middle-England than they make out. Stand to be corrected tho They've been drinking in BS3. Act and sound proper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Rocker Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 On 01/04/2021 at 13:49, Red-Robbo said: With accents, I think you vary it subconsciously depending on who you spend the most time with. Now the pair make decent bunce, probably have more refined holiday destinations and spend time with journalists and record company staff, I'd be surprised if they were as broad off-stage as when performing. I can empathise. I left the West Country when I was 18 and my natural Somerset accent just faded over time and was very indistinct by the time I was reading news bulletins on Radio 4 - although I did have one arsewipe of a listener write in to complain about my "yokel pronunciation" . I've lived back down here for a decade now and my childhood accent has never entirely returned although my kids say I have a "pub voice" I use when chatting to guys I know who've never left Somerset. This is entirely subconscious. I've never deliberately tried to change my speaking voice. Totally mate, it doesn't take long to lose the West Country LaLaLa twang when you live and work with 'foreigners'. My missus grew up in the North East of England and went to Oxford Uni, but now considers herself Bristolian and has been a season ticket holder at City for over 20 years. But the first time I took her to a City game in the 90s, we went in the Wedlocks for a pre-match pint and I bumped into an old mate from school and I started talking, to her ears, a foreign language. Also I was for a few years signed to a London-based record label where you just wouldn't and couldn't speak with a West country accent. Yet they still regarded us as thick yokels I humbly and genuinely apologise to my Bristolian brothers and sisters for betraying you. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted February 17, 2022 Report Share Posted February 17, 2022 On 01/04/2021 at 13:49, Red-Robbo said: I've lived back down here for a decade now and my childhood accent has never entirely returned although my kids say I have a "pub voice" I use when chatting to guys I know who've never left Somerset. Weird init. I don't think I've got a strong accent, but I do have an accent compared to the Wife (Essex). She has said the same to me, I've never noticed obviously . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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