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4 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said:

Half a dozen Ted's trying to take liberties on our Manor, took the first 4 out easily enough, but when the last 2 tried to leg it, I slipped on the ice as I took them out with a roundhouse kick.

Hah. I knew you were lying.

We've not had any ice.

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2 hours ago, bcfc01 said:

Seems they are waking up - well, a few anyway. The comments from the whopper writing the second sentence is typical. 

"and of course the most pertinent question very much unanswered, there is about ten to fifteen seats with a decent view, what on earth were you thinking? Do we really have to accept this pile of girders as “progress?” Okay two questions then oh and a third can I have my money back for my five season tickets please, no one would choose seats with restricted of a view. End rant sorry"

"My understanding, well reading anyway, is that the FM was still possible but a long time off so with the SAG reductions something had to give. The result was a 'temporary' stand, temporary as in construction time and materials.
Now that the FM is off the table, the next step is East and North, which will be around 5-6,000 and 3-4,000 respectively.
That'll take us to around 16-17,000 then the owners will take stock. The next step could be the West and then possibly another look at the South. Final capacity could be closer to 20,000 but still a way off yet, if ever.
I'd also turn over the majority of the South Stand to away fans once the East and North are completed.
Plenty enough for us as a top half L1, bottom half Championship team imo."

Are they forgetting the bit where they have to actually fill it, which they haven't managed for many many years?

Just gonna be left with more facilities to maintain and the same amount of fans I would say

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57 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said:

Weirdly, up until Covid, Rovers 60/60 draw was extremely popular and was nearly always a 100K prize.

Then they stopped taking cash and a few sellers left and now it's around £30K

Hope you recover well Miah,

There were a few inaccuracies in your earlier post. Hope you didn’t mind me correcting it for you

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4 hours ago, bcfc01 said:

Seems they are waking up - well, a few anyway. The comments from the whopper writing the second sentence is typical. 

"and of course the most pertinent question very much unanswered, there is about ten to fifteen seats with a decent view, what on earth were you thinking? Do we really have to accept this pile of girders as “progress?” Okay two questions then oh and a third can I have my money back for my five season tickets please, no one would choose seats with restricted of a view. End rant sorry"

"My understanding, well reading anyway, is that the FM was still possible but a long time off so with the SAG reductions something had to give. The result was a 'temporary' stand, temporary as in construction time and materials.
Now that the FM is off the table, the next step is East and North, which will be around 5-6,000 and 3-4,000 respectively.
That'll take us to around 16-17,000 then the owners will take stock. The next step could be the West and then possibly another look at the South. Final capacity could be closer to 20,000 but still a way off yet, if ever.
I'd also turn over the majority of the South Stand to away fans once the East and North are completed.
Plenty enough for us as a top half L1, bottom half Championship team imo."

Their new owner said 16,000 tops.

The weird stand opposite the one that looks like a cricket pavilion presumably the East one? is where they have the most scope but I have no idea where they think the money is coming from.

He also said safe standing (!) at the Thatcher’s End (presumably that is the North?) so how much of an increase you can make there with housing in close proximity is debatable.

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14 hours ago, Miah Dennehy said:

Weirdly, up until Covid, Rovers 50/50 draw was extremely popular and was nearly always a 1k prize.

Then they stopped taking cash and a few sellers left and now it's around d £300

We had notice to say Ashton Gate Stadium had become a totally cashless venue. However, the 50/50 tickets are cash only. 
 

I don’t know if the prize is paid out in cash……does anyone here know?

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A nice takedown of Barton by Jonathan Liew today. I've highlighted some nice little digs at Barton's ego that made me smile.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/dec/12/joey-bartons-far-right-rebrand-points-to-sad-malaise-among-footballs-lost-boys

First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win. Then, several years after you’ve won, a former Queens Park Rangers midfielder inexplicably tries to fight you again in an attempt to promote his podcast. Like a catchy maxim ripped from the pages of the philosophy books that he has almost certainly only skim-read, the tale of Joey Barton can be interpreted pretty much however you want.

Perhaps the first reaction to the former Rangers substitute’s latest wave of attention-seeking is also the most natural: ignore, starve of oxygen, move on. Partly this is because his motivations for railing against female pundits in men’s football are so cynically transparent.

Why engage on the merest rational level with someone operating entirely outside the bounds of reason? This is, in many ways, the rhetorical equivalent of Barton’s dismissal for QPR against Manchester City on the final day of the 2011-12 season: a blur of unfocused, indiscriminate anger, a last desperate attempt to drag someone else down into the filth with him before he disappears down the tunnel and into oblivion.

Of course, this goes far deeper than one 41‑year‑old former Bristol Rovers manager (win ratio 37.1%) and his crumpled onanistic desire to feel something again. Not least because of the way he has broadened out his generic criticism to specific broadcasters, who have then had to face the wrath of his 2.7 million social media followers. And not least because of the additional emotional labour that many women in football have felt obliged to perform in the days since: defending their positions, defending their colleagues, defending their right simply to earn a living against a loud lunatic fringe with seemingly inexhaustible reserves of time, self-hatred and burner accounts.

Enough now. This is a male problem, and to be quite honest men have been shirking the hard work on this for far too long. And it is very specifically a football problem, even if, in his shameless grift, the 11-minute one-cap wonder is clearly channelling the same far-right talking points as more seasoned online contrarians such as Andrew Tate and Russell Brand and that Tory MP with the Rick Parfitt wig whosen name I always forget.

Since its earliest days football has always been a Petri dish of bruised and broken masculinity, conceived from first principles as a place where men gather to perform and prove themselves. Where the constraints and compromises of wider society did not apply. Where – from the terrace ruck to the Premier League sex party – overt masculinity has always been rewarded rather than reined in. And though the sport is more diverse than it has ever been, a safer space for women than it has ever been, that culture persists; perhaps not so much in the glass-flecked alleyway but in the fan forum, the newspaper comments section, the sternly worded legal injunction protecting the identity of the latest footballer accused of sexual violence.

For the ex-footballer, flung unceremoniously from the carousel, now on the outside looking in, the values and certainties that helped them to thrive in this world now offer precious little protection. Perhaps this is why so many former footballers find themselves vulnerable to financial scams or conspiracy theories, convinced that the same special essence that slipped them free of the chains of society can help them do so again.

How does Matt Le Tissier end up sharing bizarre and antisemitic 9/11 conspiracies? Why does Iker Casillas think the moon landings were faked? How does Rickie Lambert end up going on marches against the “15-minute city” and sharing something called the “Great Awakening Theory”? How does Barton become a champion of the disgraced “alt-right” fantasist Alex Jones?

Very little of the actual content is worth addressing in any kind of detail, but there is a common worldview at work here: not coherent by any stretch but devastatingly clear in its emotional impetus, its determination to see darkened enemies everywhere. The world is not what we were told it was. We were all lied to. And I – the disaffected middle-aged man, society’s last permissible victim – am the last hope against the total collapse of humanity.

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5 minutes ago, chinapig said:

A nice takedown of Barton by Jonathan Liew today. I've highlighted some nice little digs at Barton's ego that made me smile.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/dec/12/joey-bartons-far-right-rebrand-points-to-sad-malaise-among-footballs-lost-boys

First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win. Then, several years after you’ve won, a former Queens Park Rangers midfielder inexplicably tries to fight you again in an attempt to promote his podcast. Like a catchy maxim ripped from the pages of the philosophy books that he has almost certainly only skim-read, the tale of Joey Barton can be interpreted pretty much however you want.

Perhaps the first reaction to the former Rangers substitute’s latest wave of attention-seeking is also the most natural: ignore, starve of oxygen, move on. Partly this is because his motivations for railing against female pundits in men’s football are so cynically transparent.

Why engage on the merest rational level with someone operating entirely outside the bounds of reason? This is, in many ways, the rhetorical equivalent of Barton’s dismissal for QPR against Manchester City on the final day of the 2011-12 season: a blur of unfocused, indiscriminate anger, a last desperate attempt to drag someone else down into the filth with him before he disappears down the tunnel and into oblivion.

Of course, this goes far deeper than one 41‑year‑old former Bristol Rovers manager (win ratio 37.1%) and his crumpled onanistic desire to feel something again. Not least because of the way he has broadened out his generic criticism to specific broadcasters, who have then had to face the wrath of his 2.7 million social media followers. And not least because of the additional emotional labour that many women in football have felt obliged to perform in the days since: defending their positions, defending their colleagues, defending their right simply to earn a living against a loud lunatic fringe with seemingly inexhaustible reserves of time, self-hatred and burner accounts.

Enough now. This is a male problem, and to be quite honest men have been shirking the hard work on this for far too long. And it is very specifically a football problem, even if, in his shameless grift, the 11-minute one-cap wonder is clearly channelling the same far-right talking points as more seasoned online contrarians such as Andrew Tate and Russell Brand and that Tory MP with the Rick Parfitt wig whosen name I always forget.

Since its earliest days football has always been a Petri dish of bruised and broken masculinity, conceived from first principles as a place where men gather to perform and prove themselves. Where the constraints and compromises of wider society did not apply. Where – from the terrace ruck to the Premier League sex party – overt masculinity has always been rewarded rather than reined in. And though the sport is more diverse than it has ever been, a safer space for women than it has ever been, that culture persists; perhaps not so much in the glass-flecked alleyway but in the fan forum, the newspaper comments section, the sternly worded legal injunction protecting the identity of the latest footballer accused of sexual violence.

For the ex-footballer, flung unceremoniously from the carousel, now on the outside looking in, the values and certainties that helped them to thrive in this world now offer precious little protection. Perhaps this is why so many former footballers find themselves vulnerable to financial scams or conspiracy theories, convinced that the same special essence that slipped them free of the chains of society can help them do so again.

How does Matt Le Tissier end up sharing bizarre and antisemitic 9/11 conspiracies? Why does Iker Casillas think the moon landings were faked? How does Rickie Lambert end up going on marches against the “15-minute city” and sharing something called the “Great Awakening Theory”? How does Barton become a champion of the disgraced “alt-right” fantasist Alex Jones?

Very little of the actual content is worth addressing in any kind of detail, but there is a common worldview at work here: not coherent by any stretch but devastatingly clear in its emotional impetus, its determination to see darkened enemies everywhere. The world is not what we were told it was. We were all lied to. And I – the disaffected middle-aged man, society’s last permissible victim – am the last hope against the total collapse of humanity.

The last few paragraphs 

 

Why would Barton try to rebrand himself in the cloaks of mainstream far-right populism? Perhaps the more operative question is: why wouldn’t he? This is a man whose lust for controversy and attention has been indulged and encouraged at every turn: often by a largely middle-class media for whom the ability to quote fortune-cookie fragments of Nietzsche or Viktor Frankl was interpreted as some kind of noble redemption arc.

Remember the concerted attempts around a decade ago to reposition this convicted criminal as some kind of misunderstood urchin intellectual? The book deal, the simpering coverage, the romanticisation of his violent past, the Question Time invitation. “If I’m somewhere and there’s four really ugly girls, I’m thinking: ‘She’s not the worst,’” he told a Ukip politician on the programme. Who could possibly have seen this bright young man becoming a rent‑a‑misogynist on Elon Musk’s platform?

So, yes: by all means ignore Barton if you must. If that’s what helps you get through the day. But by the same token something really quite sinister is happening here, a gathering movement of disaffected young men emboldened by our current political moment, of which Barton is merely an opportunistic symptom.

It begins with a throwaway comment about women on the telly. With an easily muted jibe at the Lionesses. History tells us it never ends that way.

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The article below seems to sum it up Barton pretty well I would say. Although as the journalist has (presumably?) never played at the highest level, the ‘hard of thinking’ will be able to ignore it.

 Never forget the great unwashed will now forever be associated with his thoroughly discredited name. For not only did they see fit to employ him, they then went through all sorts of contortions to justify and excuse his previous and subsequent behaviour (employing other misogynists and homophobes). At least now everyone is aware of his true feelings towards Her Game Too. What a shower.


https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/dec/12/joey-bartons-far-right-rebrand-points-to-sad-malaise-among-footballs-lost-boys?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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6 minutes ago, Topper 123 said:

I got a gas mate who still works at whore field and he says there’s trouble at mill , players aren’t happy with new manager  or clubs new head chief as he’s got rid of nearly everyone. Loan players are apparently asking to return to parent clubs in January oh dear 😅 

They've installed the owners son to run the show and he's apparently causing chaos (not a wind up).

All their coaching staff have left, not sure if they were sacked or just walked out.

This made me laugh;

"Out of curiosity.
Does anybody know whether when Pearson was sacked at 1982ltd all of his coaches were also replaced ?"

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