Rudolf Hucker Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 3 hours ago, East Londoner said: The ironic thing is he seems to be a decent manager, he had Lincoln challenging last season before losing the play off final and has had health issues this season So all this he’s Ashton's mate stuff that comes up every time there’s a vacancy does him a disservice and so maybe he’s happy to distance himself so people can see he’s actually capable of doing the job rather than who he used to work with That’s my thinking too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Red Army 75 Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 That’s not Frank Lampard 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_bristol Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 What sort of human is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: That’s not Frank Lampard Nope, but it’s a complete unknown that Ashton can manipulate & foist his transfers on. Where on earth has that happened before? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 minute ago, luke_bristol said: What sort of human is he? Homo Sapien I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Nope, but it’s a complete unknown that Ashton can manipulate & foist his transfers on. Where on earth has that happened before? So true. Such a Mark Ashton appointment. Can’t wait to hear him talk about the process for the football club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 Just in time for Christmas, though not sure sales in Ipswich will amount to much. 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 He should just hurry up and name the caretaker on 1 year rolling deal but he doesn't work like that. Still a few weeks before he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Northern Red said: Very Ashton this would be. Another young manager that could be manipulated . He doesn’t like experienced managers who’d tell him how it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 3 hours ago, GrahamC said: Nope, but it’s a complete unknown that Ashton can manipulate & foist his transfers on. Where on earth has that happened before? Don’t worry Graham….the news is that McKenna will bring Martyn Pert with him. Who? The same Martyn Pert that initially worked for Dan Ashworth’s brother, and Ashworth mentored Ashton and Ashton has modelled his CEO role on Ashworth’s “I’m at the centre of everything” model. Ok, a bit tenuous, admittedly. Ok, moving on, was at West Brom during Ashton’s time, under Aidy Boothroyd (cough, spit), who Ashton took to Watford with him. Pert arrived at Watford too. So another vastly extensive search, ends up with someone Ashton already knows. What are the chances? 1 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 Sounds like a pretty exciting appointment until you realise he coached a Man Utd who looked about the worst organised team in Prem relying on individual talent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Northern Red said: How does he score on the decency scale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 ITFC on the verge of appointing Kieron McKenna. Mark Ashton masterminding the appointment of a well-meaning unproven coach, that will basically act as his Number 2, is unlikely to question him, and can take the flak for his trail of carnage. Hmmmm remind me why this is familiar……. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 ITFC on the verge of appointing Kieron McKenna. Mark Ashton masterminding the appointment of a well-meaning unproven coach, that will basically act as his Number 2, is unlikely to question him, and can take the flak for his trail of carnage. Hmmmm remind me why this is familiar……. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, TomThumb84 said: ITFC on the verge of appointing Kieron McKenna. Mark Ashton masterminding the appointment of a well-meaning unproven coach, that will basically act as his Number 2, is unlikely to question him, and can take the flak for his trail of carnage. Hmmmm remind me why this is familiar……. And maybe the Pert link too has parallels with taking Simpson and Downing off of England, paying compo, when they were trying to get rid of them too. All speculative from me, but you can’t help but think it can you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 33 minutes ago, TomThumb84 said: ITFC on the verge of appointing Kieron McKenna. Mark Ashton masterminding the appointment of a well-meaning unproven coach, that will basically act as his Number 2, is unlikely to question him, and can take the flak for his trail of carnage. Hmmmm remind me why this is familiar……. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 They're only 4 signings away from 23 new players or to put it another way, at the end of January they could have an entirely new first team squad in 7 months. Ashton won't be able to help himself in the transfer market leaving most of the current squad no idea if they're coming or going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Midlands Robin said: They're only 4 signings away from 23 new players or to put it another way, at the end of January they could have an entirely new first team squad in 7 months. Ashton won't be able to help himself in the transfer market leaving most of the current squad no idea if they're coming or going. Imagine some signed in the summer (perm and loan) might move on. Ashton won’t be happy unless he’s signing players though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgrsimon Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, TomThumb84 said: ITFC on the verge of appointing Kieron McKenna. Mark Ashton masterminding the appointment of a well-meaning unproven coach, that will basically act as his Number 2, is unlikely to question him, and can take the flak for his trail of carnage. Hmmmm remind me why this is familiar……. "Assistant First Team Coach or Assistant to the First Team Coach?" Credit Ricky Gervaise/David Brent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Midlands Robin said: They're only 4 signings away from 23 new players or to put it another way, at the end of January they could have an entirely new first team squad in 7 months. Ashton won't be able to help himself in the transfer market leaving most of the current squad no idea if they're coming or going. Looking on Transfermarkt, the summer turn over of players was about 43. They list 21 incoming in the summer, madness to think they would gel that quickly. New manager, few more ego signings just to add to the chaos. 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Imagine some signed in the summer (perm and loan) might move on. Ashton won’t be happy unless he’s signing players though. I wonder if they might struggle to offload. I imagine they are one of the higher payers in that League, we know to our cost how that goes. Their squad is around 30 players, there is no way they go through this window without signing more . Wonder how Ashton sells it to the new owners, just a bit of quality to complete the squad. We might just be able to offload some after all It does all seem vaguely familiar . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 McKenna appointed, Pert as Assistant. I don’t care about the timing, I always find it bonkers that the new manager lets the caretaker handle this game. A cynical person might suggest Sunderland is a tough game and they don’t want to start with a L. If it were me I’d want to have some control over the situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Looking on Transfermarkt, the summer turn over of players was about 43. They list 21 incoming in the summer, madness to think they would gel that quickly. New manager, few more ego signings just to add to the chaos. I wonder if they might struggle to offload. I imagine they are one of the higher payers in that League, we know to our cost how that goes. Their squad is around 30 players, there is no way they go through this window without signing more . Wonder how Ashton sells it to the new owners, just a bit of quality to complete the squad. We might just be able to offload some after all It does all seem vaguely familiar . Oh, absolutely will be tough to move on. Imagine trying to get someone to pick up Morsy’s £12k p.w. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) Mckenna confirmed? Il just leave this here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Garner Similarities? Edited December 16, 2021 by cidercity1987 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, cidercity1987 said: Mckenna confirmed? Yeah, McKenna and Pert as his assistant. Confirmed and will start Monday with McGreal in the hot seat for the Sunderland match. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59686994 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, Midlands Robin said: Yeah, McKenna and Pert as his assistant. Confirmed and will start Monday with McGreal in the hot seat for the Sunderland match. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59686994 Unnervingly, he looks eerily like Gavin Williamson. I hope, for his sake, the similarity ends there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, cidercity1987 said: Mckenna confirmed? Il just leave this here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Garner Similarities? Similarities?! McKenna left his job as a first team coach at Man Utd to join Ipswich - Ben Garner left his job as assistant coach at ATK in India to join Roverzzzz - can you give more on the ‘similarities’ in this one? Cheers ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Unnervingly, he looks eerily like Gavin Williamson. I hope, for his sake, the similarity ends there. Phil, you reside in La France, a country that never misses an opportunity to lambast or inhibit UK citizens - eg, everything right now! Therefore, how can you join in with them by ridiculing our politicians at the moment without any remorse?! Shame on you Phillip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, billywedlock said: Never heard of him. Big challenge going into that shambles as your first job. It’s a bold appointment. I said when he appointed Holden it would make or break his time here. He’s gone early on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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