Midred Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Where's Michael Oliver when they need him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rob k said: How can anyone come to a conclusion that that was not a handball - i don’t care who goes through but that’s a shocker Was it deliberate in your view? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rob k said: How can anyone come to a conclusion that that was not a handball - i don’t care who goes through but that’s a shocker Under the law its correct though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Leveller said: To be an offence, handball has always had to be deliberate surely, until they started mucking about with the rules relatively recently. All the stuff about the hand being in an unnatural position was just to help decide whether there was any intent. I’m all for handball being restricted to deliberate cheating, not just accidental contacts. Then it’s just the ref’s honest opinion whether the player deliberately cheated or not. At the moment it still appears goals will be ruled out for accidental handball if the contact puts the ball into the net. So, I presume, if a defender lashes a clearance at an attacker, it will be a goal if it hits the attacker’s chest and goes in, but not if it hits his elbow. That would also be nonsense. If the lad had instead of passing it and scored himself it would of been disallowed so it would of been classed as deliberate,what is the bloody difference between a goal and one pass,it’s all nonsense now mate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Super said: Under the law its correct though. And the law is better than one penalising any accidental contact of the ball with the arm - the sort of thing that would lead to ludicrous penalties where a ball hits a defenders elbow from behind. You can’t have it both ways - either you need intent or you don’t. My view is that the law was created to prevent cheating, which makes intent crucial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Super said: Under the law its correct though. It may well be - but its just another example of people messing about with the game 4 minutes ago, Leveller said: Was it deliberate in your view? I don’t think 99% of the handballs I’ve seen given are ‘deliberate’ Its either a handball or it’s not - if that goes in from the lob then the goal is disallowed so the rule is ridiculous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, joe jordans teeth said: If the lad had instead of passing it and scored himself it would of been disallowed so it would of been classed as deliberate,what is the bloody difference between a goal and one pass,it’s all nonsense now mate No, it would have been disallowed without intent - which is different. See my other post - I prefer a law that prevents cheating, not accidental advantages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, Leveller said: No, it would have been disallowed without intent - which is different. See my other post - I prefer a law that prevents cheating, not accidental advantages. Disallowed is disallowed in my eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said: Disallowed is disallowed in my eyes You haven’t commented on what the law is designed to prevent - cheating or accidents. What if your defender is hit on the elbow by a ball from behind? You’re happy to concede a penalty? If not, why not? What’s the difference? Use some logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 What a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rob k said: It may well be - but its just another example of people messing about with the game You're right. This is all we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, joe jordans teeth said: What’s happening to the game,it’s a clear handball ,sorry @Son of Fred you are right if you are not watching then you would be confused Wow, you must have assumed everyone is watching the Man Utd game tonight when starting this thread - no mention of any team or game in question until @Maltshoveller added a reply down the thread - the initial replies gave nothing away - it must be a cosy club where everyone ‘in the know’ realises you are posting about Man Utd whilst non members are non plussed ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Pens it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Sam matterface just said man United have only won one of the the last 7 spot kicks,so dramatic,he could of just said they have won one of the last 2 or 52 of the last 63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Wow, you must have assumed everyone is watching the Man Utd game tonight when starting this thread - no mention of any team or game in question until @Maltshoveller added a reply down the thread - the initial replies gave nothing away - it must be a cosy club where everyone ‘in the know’ realises you are posting about Man Utd whilst non members are non plussed ... good point,it’s obviously just me who wouldn’t give a reaction if I didn’t know what a thread was about,if you want to in the cosy club I suggest stop being offended on somebody’s behalf Edited February 4, 2022 by joe jordans teeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Quality pens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: good point,it’s obviously just me who wouldn’t give a reaction if I didn’t know what a thread was about,if you want to in the cosy club I suggest stop being offended on somebody’s behalf I would never, ever be offended on somebody’s behalf, I have never done that, I hate that and I would never entertain it - happy Friday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Pretty poor from keepers so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Get in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Hahah out 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Corner Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 What is it with man u against championship teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: I would never, ever be offended on somebody’s behalf, I have never done that, I hate that and I would never entertain it - happy Friday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, RUSSEL85 said: Hahah out Bet the BBC still try to show their game in the next round.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Why does the ref feel the need to walk up to the keeper before every penalty? Clown! Fair play Boro. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just as well someone missed the goal, cos those keepers weren't even close to saving one. Well done 'Boro. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Just as well someone missed the goal, cos those keepers weren't even close to saving one. Well done 'Boro. I thought both keepers were awful. 2 pens went straight under them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Curr Avon Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, joe jordans teeth said: What’s happening to the game,it’s a clear handball ,sorry @Son of Fred you are right if you are not watching then you would be confused Not according to the laws of the game, and as they say in Russia, 'toughshitski'. Edited February 4, 2022 by Curr Avon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) To be fair if his arm/hand isn't there in that position, chances are he doesn't get the ball, let alone score. Makes a change for the "little" club to get a decision, but it's a clear handball all day long, regardless of what some technical rule change has been changed. If that's against us tomorrow, then there is a 20 page thread on here complaining about how var should be introduced, and how Pearsons rant at the referee is going to get him in more bother, as well as a touchline ban. Edited February 4, 2022 by Taz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted February 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Taz said: To be fair if his arm/hand isn't there in that position, chances are he doesn't get the ball, let alone score. Makes a change for the "little" club to get a decision, but it's a clear handball all day long, regardless of what some technical rule change has been changed. If that's against us tomorrow, then there is a 20 page thread on here complaining about how var should be introduced, and how Pearsons rant at the referee is going to get him in more bother, as well as a touchline ban. And don’t forget Mark Ashton was behind the rule change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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