OldlandReddies Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Gone backwards since the Euro's. Garbage tonight Absolutely zero expectation going into a Major tournament. Probably go and win it now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted September 23, 2022 Admin Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 23 minutes ago, Bedred31 said: Yes- results aside, quite the most awful footy coverage I’ve ever seen. Can’t think of a single aspect that is better than dire. The ONLY bonus is that the games are free to air so available to everyone 2 minutes ago, ScottishRed said: One game to go before the WC and it’s a dead rubber but against Germany. A game England realy can’t afford to lose. If we can't raise our game against the Germans at Wembley we have big problems The atmosphere will be bubbling at the start with the new National Anthem too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Southgate hasn't evolved our tactics and style at all. Been found out 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) Southgate post match thinks The ‘ performance was close ‘ ‘ We used the ball well ‘ ’ Just lacked that final bit of quality ‘ Jesus wept - utter bulls*** He morphs into a LJ clone day by day Edited September 23, 2022 by Sheltons Army 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedred31 Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, phantom said: The ONLY bonus is that the games are free to air so available to everyone If we can't raise our game against the Germans at Wembley we have big problems The atmosphere will be bubbling at the start with the new National Anthem too Fair point about free coverage. And to be fair, Le Saux’s an ok contributor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Southgate post match thinks The ‘ performance was close ‘ ‘ We used the ball well ‘ ’ Just lacked that final bit of quality ‘ Jesus wept - utter bulls*** He morphs into a LJ clone day by day The embarassing thing is UK media will be in full swing during the next 2 months hyping up our chances. He has been hugely protected by our media We have zero chance with him in charge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 What's worse, England's current performance level, England's relegation to B level, or that we could find ourselves below Scotland in the Nations League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limey Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Total Dog S$%T, looked like us last season. Slow deliberate build-up with no attacking intent, no penetration, and absolutely lazy at times. Foden looked the most attacking-minded, and Dier got forward quite a bit. Otherwise, there was no work ethic, no press, and kane was nowhere (Tammy would be way more mobile). Time to blow it up now before we're embarrassed in the world cup. NP for England manager.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) Definitely gone backwards since the Euros, the 4-0 win in Hungary not long after, it was decent but think it flattered us a bit in hindsight? Edited September 23, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelton’s Love Gravy Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Suddenly, I need a poo… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Feels like like the right time at the wrong time unfortunately, if Germany beat us on Monday then the FA have a decision to make especially with Pochettino and Tuchel available 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said: Feels like like the right time at the wrong time unfortunately, if Germany beat us on Monday then the FA have a decision to make especially with Pochettino and Tuchel available Never happening in a million years. Gareth will be on the plane without question. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 And Iran beat Uruguay tonight ! Hows the heat Gareth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Can't understand why this is being held just a month before the world cup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, ScottishRed said: Never happening in a million years. Gareth will be on the plane without question. Your almost certainly right but if something doesn't change we'll be coming home very early from the World Cup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said: Feels like like the right time at the wrong time unfortunately, if Germany beat us on Monday then the FA have a decision to make especially with Pochettino and Tuchel available Won’t happen - Southgate is an FA puppet. They’d never appoint anyone remotely controversial. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: And Iran beat Uruguay tonight ! Hows the heat Gareth I see Queiroz is back in charge there...he can organise a side, with some counter attacking play too. Throw in the conditions ie heat and the relative distance it could be a bit like a home game for Iran...quite a challenge potentially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I see Queiroz is back in charge there...he can organise a side, with some counter attacking play too. Throw in the conditions ie heat and the relative distance it could be a bit like a home game for Iran...quite a challenge potentially. I wouldn't even fancy us beating Wales based on recent performances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Let's not get performative now lads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 So flat & against a poor Italian side who know how to nick a goal, defend & kill the game. Unbelievable that they are European Champions. Really dreadful but what do we expect. Dier's an average midfield player playing in the centre of the defence. ( why? Because he's no good as a midfield player) Walker's a right back playing as a central defender and Maguire's been dropped at club level but deemed good enough for International level. That back three looked so uncomfortable. Sako looked so uncomfortable as a wing back. Kane isolated. Sterling and Pope still finding their feet at new clubs also. The best player was a 19 year old and that speaks volumes. The mind boggles. Southgate just can't inspire this squad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) Italy were a much different side for 2-3 years under Mancini tbh @Swede they generally went at sides, and generally dominated most opposition, nick a goal and win is fairly misleading for then, albeit more accurate for now. Tonight was poor yes, although we don't win over there often to say the least. We have sharply declined last 6 months however. Think 4-3-3 and handbreak off would suit us quite well are we just s bit risk averse atm? Bit flat certainly. Edited September 23, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Limey said: Total Dog S$%T, looked like us last season. Slow deliberate build-up with no attacking intent, no penetration, and absolutely lazy at times. Foden looked the most attacking-minded, and Dier got forward quite a bit. Otherwise, there was no work ethic, no press, and kane was nowhere (Tammy would be way more mobile). Time to blow it up now before we're embarrassed in the world cup. NP for England manager.. Hard to disagree with any of that, sat in the duke tonight watching and thought we are one of the favourites in the world cup, how has a team that nearly won the Euros recently and got to a semi-final of the world cup in 2018 sunk so low, tonight was bloo*y embarassing. Edited September 23, 2022 by pillred Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Sheltons Army said: Southgate post match thinks The ‘ performance was close ‘ ‘ We used the ball well ‘ ’ Just lacked that final bit of quality ‘ Jesus wept - utter bulls*** He morphs into a LJ clone day by day A little bit of honesty from him wouldn't have gone amiss? To say we used the ball well, and we just lacked a BIT of quality, is completely delusional. He should have admitted that playing Saka as a wing back was a poorly conceived idea, and that he should be picking players in their right positions, and players in form. Not experimenting with new formations with only one game left before the World Cup? I'll be supporting Ghana anyhow....Ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 A international manager with 2 relegations on his cv. That for me says it all. 2 relegations from 2 jobs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 Gutting booed off and he's stood there clapping his hands above his head for 2 minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 34 minutes ago, Oh Louie louie said: A international manager with 2 relegations on his cv. That for me says it all. 2 relegations from 2 jobs He was a crap league manager who should never had been near the England job, his extreme luck has finally ran out, I find it impossible to understand how he could start Maguire last night, Webster anyone? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 We could lose heavily to Germany on Monday and it will make little difference. It’s too late to make a change now for the sake of it. Granted we have been poor of late but as Southgate has a good tournament record he will obviously be given this WC. Personally I have never been his biggest fan but you have to recognise he has done a good job. However for all the good, tactically in the WC semi & Euro final he was found wanting. He hasn’t learnt or evolved from that either and it now looks as though this side needs a fresh face to take us in a different direction, which I think will happen regardless of what happens at the WC. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 He's out his league tactics wise at national level watch the Hungary game this is turning into a farce and getting embarrassing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 Can he not get a tune out of kane and Co? Or simply they ain't playing for him I suspect many players dislike his regime hardly edge of the seat stuff the last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, harrys said: He was a crap league manager who should never had been near the England job, his extreme luck has finally ran out, I find it impossible to understand how he could start Maguire last night, Webster anyone? I am really surprised Webster hasn’t had a look in. Not saying that through City tinted glasses but I think his style & ability would be very suited to international football. I think the issue at CB goes way deeper than Maguire though & Southgate’s over the top loyalty appears part of the reason why this side is stagnating. Do I think Maguire should be playing? No, but his involvement is easier to argue given his strong tournament displays for England. Personally I find the inclusions of Dier & Coady pointless. We know all about Dier. He’s not up to the level so why go back? Why not have a look at someone different? He’s simply not going to be part of a future England defence. Same with Coady, he’s been in and around the squad for a while, has never broken in to hold a regular starting place, likely never will & couldn’t get in at Wolves but because he’s good around the squad he’s included? Surely that’s just stopping others getting a chance. Seems so odd. The likes of Guehi, Tomori, White & of course Webster should be getting a look in. Edited September 24, 2022 by Taylor10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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