David Noble

[PHILINFRANCE]

33 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I thought you were claiming that Noble, Marv and Little Lee never played together………..

This might help.

Noble & Elliott barely ever played together,

from Merriam-Webster dictionary: "barely/scarcely ever. : almost never: rarely.

 

People also ask. Does barely mean never?

What does this mean? The word 'barely' by itself means 'only just, scarcely'

 

Never

1. at no time in the past or future; not ever.

2. not at all.

 

Glad to be of assistance, but, as has been suggested, the Internet is always useful if you don't have a dictionary handy.

[italian dave]

1 hour ago, Wolf Island said:

 

If we’re simply counting memorable goals as “an achievement” then I give you JET v the gas..

They we’re both fantastic footballers to watch, we were lucky to have had the opportunity to see both in action, and I’m not sure why we can’t just appreciate both for what they were without having to get into who was better than who. 

Edited March 3, 2022 by italian dave

[Phileas Fogg]

2 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Surely you must know how the internet works by now?

You can actually look this sort of stuff up for yourself.

Marvin Elliott arrived at the start of the 2007/8 season, the one we made the Championship playoff final, you must remember it, because under GJ it was our most successful season of the last 42 years.

In that season Elliott started 44 games, LJ 39, Noble just 16.

The following season Noble started 5 games then he left, he was never Elliott’s regular partner, most of the games were either replacing one of the other 2 when they were unavailable or playing in an advanced role behind Dele Adebola in a 4-4-1-1.

Exactly - I strongly remember LJ and Elliot being the mainstay of that midfield. I can still remember the regular team now..

Basso; Orr, Carey, McCombe, McAllister; Sproule, Johnson, Elliot, McIndoe; Byfield, Trundle (Adebola, Vasko, Noble, Murray often regular replacements).

Noble simply didn't get about the pitch enough to regularly start with Johnson or Elliot in a midfield 2, and wouldn't have been able to partner Trundle for the same reason.

As usual, it's RR's poor grasp of facts letting him down. 

[The Journalist]

51 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Exactly - I strongly remember LJ and Elliot being the mainstay of that midfield. I can still remember the regular team now..

Basso; Orr, Carey, McCombe, McAllister; Sproule, Johnson, Elliot, McIndoe; Byfield, Trundle (Adebola, Vasko, Noble, Murray often regular replacements).

Noble simply didn't get about the pitch enough to regularly start with Johnson or Elliot in a midfield 2, and wouldn't have been able to partner Trundle for the same reason.

As usual, it's RR's poor grasp of facts letting him down. 

And five of those games David Noble started - the final five of the campaign - were actually off the right in a similar role to the one Josh Brownhill played during our cup run. Lee Johnson, as it happens, was left out for Nick Carle.

That midfield of McIndoe - Carle - Elliott - Noble saw us end that season playing probably our best football of the entire campaign.

I'm not sure Noble EVER started a game in the middle of midfield in the Championship. He just didn't have the mobility for it, so we had to find different areas of the field to hide his lack of athleticism.

[Phileas Fogg]

26 minutes ago, The Journalist said:

And five of those games David Noble started - the final five of the campaign - were actually off the right in a similar role to the one Josh Brownhill played during our cup run. Lee Johnson, as it happens, was left out for Nick Carle.

That midfield of McIndoe - Carle - Elliott - Noble saw us end that season playing probably our best football of the entire campaign.

I'm not sure Noble EVER started a game in the middle of midfield in the Championship. He just didn't have the mobility for it, so we had to find different areas of the field to hide his lack of athleticism.

I had forgotten that actually. Quite interesting idea from Johnson. I also remember thinking Nick Carle looked quality - we definitely got the best out of him compared to how he got on at Palace.

[cidercity1987]

31 minutes ago, The Journalist said:

And five of those games David Noble started - the final five of the campaign - were actually off the right in a similar role to the one Josh Brownhill played during our cup run. Lee Johnson, as it happens, was left out for Nick Carle.

That midfield of McIndoe - Carle - Elliott - Noble saw us end that season playing probably our best football of the entire campaign.

I'm not sure Noble EVER started a game in the middle of midfield in the Championship. He just didn't have the mobility for it, so we had to find different areas of the field to hide his lack of athleticism.

For clarity, the final five games of the campaign, are you referring to

Southampton L

Wolves D

Stoke L

Sheff Utd L

Preston W

5 points from 5 games?

[The Journalist]

30 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

For clarity, the final five games of the campaign, are you referring to

Southampton L

Wolves D

Stoke L

Sheff Utd L

Preston W

5 points from 5 games?

Sheff Utd L

Preston W

Crystal Palace W

Crystal Palace W

Hull L

And, I'm not sure if you were at the Sheffield United one, but I vividly remember the match as one of the best performances I've ever seen from a City side in defeat. The players got a standing ovation from the entire away end post-game.

[The Journalist]

44 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

I had forgotten that actually. Quite interesting idea from Johnson. I also remember thinking Nick Carle looked quality - we definitely got the best out of him compared to how he got on at Palace.

I've always quite liked having flair players (in the David Noble sense of the word) or at least proper footballing players playing off one flank, as long as you've got someone comfortable going on the outside on the opposite side so you don't just become ridiculously narrow.

Josh Brownhill, while obviously being very different to Noble, also had the intelligence to come inside from wide and influence the play.

Jamie Paterson's another who was good at that IMO.

Edited March 3, 2022 by The Journalist

[SuperDziek]

13 minutes ago, The Journalist said:

Sheff Utd L

Preston W

Crystal Palace W

Crystal Palace W

Hull L

And, I'm not sure if you were at the Sheffield United one, but I vividly remember the match as one of the best performances I've ever seen from a City side in defeat. The players got a standing ovation from the entire away end post-game.

I was there. Pretty sure we had the Noble-Carle-Trundle axis and the football we played was on another level from anything seen that season. We lost 2-1 I think with Gary Speed getting both for the Blades (don’t know who scored for us!) but we were outstanding. 

21 hours ago, ziderheadarmy said:

Wasn’t Sarah was

Wasn’t Sarah was it? 

Wasn’t Sarah was it? 

Sarah was with Steve Brooker!

[The Wild Bunch]

21 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

I’m not so sure.

His goal against Palace was a cracker, and promised so much more than the Rotherham victory achieved.

Palace a close second for me due to the fact of losing to Hull in the final.

[Robbored]

7 minutes ago, The Wild Bunch said:

Palace a close second for me due to the fact of losing to Hull in the final

Yep - managed to lose without creating a shot on target…….…….a huge disappointment.

[David Brent]

13 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Yep - managed to lose without creating a shot on target…….…….a huge disappointment.

How on earth do you get so much wrong?

[Robbored]

5 minutes ago, David Brent said:

How on earth do you get so much wrong?

I was at Wembley that disappointing day and the play off final was voted the most dullest ever……City never managed a shot on goal and Hull managed one - the only goal of the match.

Hardly a surprise tho having witnessed the dullest football for entire season, Palace apart.

[Sheltons Army]

2 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I was at Wembley that disappointing day and the play off final was voted the most dullest ever……City never managed a shot on goal and Hull managed one - the only goal of the match.

Hardly a surprise tho having witnessed the dullest football for entire season, Palace apart.

I think you’re getting confused with one of your trips with your fellow Sags

[Sheltons Army]

I accept your knowledge of football , including the club you purport to support is well.....pitiful but here’s the match stats

 

[SuperDziek]

7 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

I accept your knowledge of football , including the club you purport to support is well.....pitiful but here’s the match stats

 

Using facts? That’ll never win an argument!

[Fpcity]

5 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Exactly - I strongly remember LJ and Elliot being the mainstay of that midfield. I can still remember the regular team now..

Basso; Orr, Carey, McCombe, McAllister; Sproule, Johnson, Elliot, McIndoe; Byfield, Trundle (Adebola, Vasko, Noble, Murray often regular replacements).

Noble simply didn't get about the pitch enough to regularly start with Johnson or Elliot in a midfield 2, and wouldn't have been able to partner Trundle for the same reason.

As usual, it's RR's poor grasp of facts letting him down. 

Totally forgot who Vasko was. Had to Google him! 

[PHILINFRANCE]

1 hour ago, The Wild Bunch said:

Palace a close second for me due to the fact of losing to Hull in the final.

I agree that the end result, losing to Hull, was extremely disappointing, but, for me, the post-match feeling (after Palace) was better and, of course, the build up to the Wembley final was fantastic.

There was also probably the subconscious feeling in the back of my mind that we were going to beat Rotherham, whereas I was not at all confident against Palace - I actually watched both legs in a bar over here with a Palace Director, who was effusive about Noble’s goal and, to be fair, magnanimous in defeat after the second leg.

I suppose, with hindsight, my feelings after Rotherham were of relief, that we had finally got out of that division, whereas, after Palace, my feelings were of expectation, euphoria even, that we were finally going to reach the promised land.

After all these years, I should have known better.

Edited March 3, 2022 by PHILINFRANCE

[View from the Dolman]

13 hours ago, Robbored said:

the play off final was voted the most dullest ever

Since the stats are questioning your accuracy, perhaps you can try backing up the above statement.

[Robbored]

10 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said:

Since the stats are questioning your accuracy, perhaps you can try backing up the above statement.

I was at the game and I definitely don’t remember City have a single effort on goal. Stats are frequently misleading.

[View from the Dolman]

7 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I was at the game and I definitely don’t remember City have a single effort on goal. Stats are frequently misleading.

None of those words attempt to back up the statement that "the play off final was voted the most dullest ever".

[PHILINFRANCE]

29 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I was at the game and I definitely don’t remember City have a single effort on goal. Stats are frequently misleading.

They certainly can be if one is unable to interpret them.

But, please tell me, what exactly in the stat that City had 13 shots on target leads you to interpret this as City failed to have even one shot on target? 

[Robbored]

Just now, PHILINFRANCE said:

They certainly can be if one is unable to interpret them.

But, please tell me, what exactly in the stat that City had 13 shots on target leads you to interpret this as City failed to have even one shot on target? 

13 shots on target!………..what game were you at?

I never saw a single one.

[Slacker]

1 minute ago, Robbored said:

13 shots on target!………..what game were you at?

I never saw a single one.

Was your seat not facing towards the pitch?

[GrahamC]

13 hours ago, Sheltons Army said:

I accept your knowledge of football , including the club you purport to support is well.....pitiful but here’s the match stats

 

Bless him, he’s getting his playoff finals confused, isn’t he?

His hero Danny Wilson & the abysmal performance against Brighton was the one when we didn’t have a shot on target & their only one was the penalty..

3 minutes ago, Robbored said:

13 shots on target!………..what game were you at?

I never saw a single one.

Adebola had a shot on target in the first 2 minutes, did you even go?

[bearded_red]

40 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I was at the game and I definitely don’t remember City have a single effort on goal. Stats are frequently misleading.

 

[Robbored]

17 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

 

Adebola had a shot on target in the first 2 minutes, did you even go?

I don’t consider that as a shot on target………..

[Robbored]

21 minutes ago, Slacker said:

Was your seat not facing towards the pitch?

Unfortunately my seat was positioned to see the winning goal perfectly…………..

Edited March 4, 2022 by Robbored

[View from the Dolman]

8 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I don’t consider that as a shot on target………..

On what basis? I'm sure you remember the effort @GrahamC refers to perfectly enough to describe what makes it not count in your esteemed judgement.

[Phileas Fogg]

13 hours ago, paul_fox said:

Totally forgot who Vasko was. Had to Google him! 

Was pretty good if I remember correctly. I loved that side, not the most technical but hard working and very tough to beat. 

Such a shame that Steve Brooker was so injury prone at the time, I think had he stayed fit he was that 15-20 goal a season striker we so badly needed in that side.