Tactical intelligence and Nigel Pearson

[Jefferz]

Like millions of others I really enjoyed the fantastic performance of the England women’s team in the final of the European championship; and one of the additional upsides was the outstanding insights/punditry of Jonas Eidevall. Now, I didn’t know he was but the more I listened the more he impressed me with his razor sharp insights and tactical awareness. It wasn’t some PowerPoint type bullshit but really smart observations of how play was being and could be affected.

Now my point is that Ian Wright as co-pundit had nothing like this level of tactical intelligence , albeit having been a superb player. He was clearly impressed by Eidevall and was sometimes like a kid in a classroom listening to an engaging, new young teacher. Equally, Nigel Pearson doesn’t strike me as a person with this grasp of the game. Yes, he was a top defender but it doesn’t mean he can communicate, motivate or inspire. Of course Klopp was a defender who didn’t play at  the same level as Pearson.

when I hear Pearson interviewed to preview the game the same pattern unfolds. ‘Yeah important game, need to play consistently, some need to concentrate, some are letting us down. We need to play for 90 minutes. I’m employed by the club and we ain’t got no money and my loyalty is unquestioned 

The post match interviews are the same. We are now getting the rueful chuckle, as if it’s really nothing to do with me… we should have played with consistency, some don’t concentrate, some let us down and we ain’t got no money. PS I’ll let you know when players are ready to return from injury so don’t be impertinent.
 

Yes, punditry is different from managerial tv interview but at no point do you sense that his love or passion for the game breaks through with illustrations of tactical intelligence, observations, new ideas. 
My reading of it is that he just can’t do it.

I think  his appointment was seen as a way of reestablishing discipline, selling the idea of no money to the fans, creating the impression of a safe pair of hands. A No nonsense disciplinarian. 
 

I don’t think it’s working. I hope he proves me wrong for the sake of BCFC who I have supported since 1968.
 

 

Edited August 8, 2022 by Jefferz

[Davefevs]

7 minutes ago, Jefferz said:

Like millions of others I really enjoyed the fantastic performance of the England women’s team in the final of the European championship; and one of the additional upsides was the outstanding insights/punditry of Jonas Eidevall. Now, I didn’t know he was but the more I listened the more he impressed me with his razor sharp insights and tactical awareness. It wasn’t some PowerPoint type bullshit but really smart observations of how play was being and could be affected.

Now my point is that Ian Wright as co-pundit had nothing like this level of tactical intelligence , albeit having been a superb player. He was clearly impressed by Eidevall and was sometimes like a kid in a classroom listening to an engaging, new young teacher. Equally, Nigel Pearson doesn’t strike me as a person with this grasp of the game. Yes, he was a top defender but it doesn’t mean he can communicate, motivate or inspire. Of course Klopp was a defender who didn’t play at  the same level as Pearson.

when I hear Pearson interviewed to preview the game the same pattern unfolds. ‘Yeah important game, need to play consistently, some need to concentrate, some are letting us down. We need to play for 90 minutes. I’m employed by the club and we ain’t got no money and my loyalty is unquestioned 

The post match interviews are the same. We are now getting the rueful chuckle, as if it’s really nothing to do with me… we should have played with consistency, some don’t concentrate, some let us down and we ain’t got no money. PS I’ll let you know when players are ready to return from injury so don’t be impertinent.
 

Yes, punditry is different from managerial tv interview but at no point do you sense that his love or passion for the game breaks through with illustrations of tactical intelligence, observations, new ideas. 
My reading of it is that he just can’t do it.

I think  his appointment was seen as a way of reestablishing discipline, selling the idea of no money to the fans, creating the impression of a safe pair of hands. A No nonsense disciplinarian. 
 

I don’t thank it’s working. I hope he proves me wrong for the sake of BCFC who I have supported since 1968.
 

 

I think Nige is very guarded in post-match interviews from 1) saying something he’ll regret or get spun and 2) talking in a way the layman won’t understand.

So you get a something in the middle, that probably doesn’t really suit the audience.

Pre-match stuff when he gets asked a sensible question his answers are very insightful.

But do you want him to start talking, 6s and 8s, half-spaces, etc…I don’t.  And I don’t want box entries, POMO or bomb alley either.

I have no doubts that Nige isn’t a dinosaur, as portrayed by some.  That’s just a lazy, age related thing.

[Jeez]

28 minutes ago, Jefferz said:

Like millions of others I really enjoyed the fantastic performance of the England women’s team in the final of the European championship; and one of the additional upsides was the outstanding insights/punditry of Jonas Eidevall. Now, I didn’t know he was but the more I listened the more he impressed me with his razor sharp insights and tactical awareness. It wasn’t some PowerPoint type bullshit but really smart observations of how play was being and could be affected.

Now my point is that Ian Wright as co-pundit had nothing like this level of tactical intelligence , albeit having been a superb player. He was clearly impressed by Eidevall and was sometimes like a kid in a classroom listening to an engaging, new young teacher. Equally, Nigel Pearson doesn’t strike me as a person with this grasp of the game. Yes, he was a top defender but it doesn’t mean he can communicate, motivate or inspire. Of course Klopp was a defender who didn’t play at  the same level as Pearson.

when I hear Pearson interviewed to preview the game the same pattern unfolds. ‘Yeah important game, need to play consistently, some need to concentrate, some are letting us down. We need to play for 90 minutes. I’m employed by the club and we ain’t got no money and my loyalty is unquestioned 

The post match interviews are the same. We are now getting the rueful chuckle, as if it’s really nothing to do with me… we should have played with consistency, some don’t concentrate, some let us down and we ain’t got no money. PS I’ll let you know when players are ready to return from injury so don’t be impertinent.
 

Yes, punditry is different from managerial tv interview but at no point do you sense that his love or passion for the game breaks through with illustrations of tactical intelligence, observations, new ideas. 
My reading of it is that he just can’t do it.

I think  his appointment was seen as a way of reestablishing discipline, selling the idea of no money to the fans, creating the impression of a safe pair of hands. A No nonsense disciplinarian. 
 

I don’t think it’s working. I hope he proves me wrong for the sake of BCFC who I have supported since 1968.
 

 

I’m not Pearson out by any means but you make a good point, we should expect more insight from the man in charge.

At times he comes across as though he doesn’t love the game but he’s good at his job so we should just leave home alone to get on with it & the interviews are an inconvenience.

But results suggest he’s not nailing the day job so therefore he really should elaborate on the interviews.

Edited August 8, 2022 by Jeez
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[Jefferz]

No I don’t want him talking ‘box entries’ or the like as I suggested in my comment about the Arteta style PowerPoint and to make that point you can’t have heard Eidevall’s comments as he didn’t say anything of that ilk. 
You see,  his observations were in real time  so to speak and were aimed at improving play and the effectiveness of individuals. I don’t see that in Pearsons game management or substitutions for that matter. 
In all management teams you have ideas people, logistics people, admin people, inspirational people etc.

He doesn’t strike me as an ideas person or an inspirational person. In my experience the task orientated leaders never succeed without being able to validate and inspire the team.

[bcfc01]

5 minutes ago, Jefferz said:

No I don’t want him talking ‘box entries’ or the like as I suggested in my comment about the Arteta style PowerPoint and to make that point you can’t have heard Eidevall’s comments as he didn’t say anything of that ilk. 
You see,  his observations were in real time  so to speak and were aimed at improving play and the effectiveness of individuals. I don’t see that in Pearsons game management or substitutions for that matter. 
In all management teams you have ideas people, logistics people, admin people, inspirational people etc.

He doesn’t strike me as an ideas person or an inspirational person. In my experience the task orientated leaders never succeed without being able to validate and inspire the team.

Easy to commentate from the side lines with no pressure - its on here all the time, every day.

Bit different when its down to you to get a result.

 

[Davefevs]

19 minutes ago, Jefferz said:

No I don’t want him talking ‘box entries’ or the like as I suggested in my comment about the Arteta style PowerPoint and to make that point you can’t have heard Eidevall’s comments as he didn’t say anything of that ilk. 
You see,  his observations were in real time  so to speak and were aimed at improving play and the effectiveness of individuals. I don’t see that in Pearsons game management or substitutions for that matter. 
In all management teams you have ideas people, logistics people, admin people, inspirational people etc.

He doesn’t strike me as an ideas person or an inspirational person. In my experience the task orientated leaders never succeed without being able to validate and inspire the team.

I saw bits and pieces of him…but being a pundit is very different to being a manager….and being in a manager’s interview pre or post-match.

What you nor I see is what observations Nige makes and how he communicates that to his players, whether pre-match, during match or post-match, training, etc.  We can look from an outside in and think that sub was wrong, or we’d do something different…and that is fine to voice that too, but we don’t have the full info either.

I certainly don’t think Pearson is perfect either btw.

[Jefferz]

16 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Easy to commentate from the side lines with no pressure - its on here all the time, every day.

Bit different when its down to you to get a result.

 

Eidevall is manager of Arsenal women. Let’s see how he gets on

[Davefevs]

1 minute ago, Jefferz said:

Eidevall is manager of Arsenal women. Let’s see how he gets on

I’m sure he’s a good manager too….but punditry v managing are chalk and cheese in terms of the info you are trying to convey to a set of audiences - whether that be media or players.

Edited August 8, 2022 by Davefevs

[BCFCGav]

I really like Eidevall. I'd have him here quite honestly. 

[bcfc01]

4 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:

I really like Eidevall. I'd have him here quite honestly. 

I'd never heard of him before the Euros and excuse my ignorance, what has he achieved as a manager ?

I'm assuming he was doing the punditry as he's involved in the Womens game at Arsenal ?

[Antman]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

And I don’t want box entries, POMO or bomb alley either.

 

christ on a bike! that made me shudder. took me right back to the Johnson jingo bingo days

4 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

I'd never heard of him before the Euros and excuse my ignorance, what has he achieved as a manager ?

I'm assuming he was doing the punditry as he's involved in the Womens game at Arsenal ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Eidevall

 

[Jefferz]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

I think Nige is very guarded in post-match interviews from 1) saying something he’ll regret or get spun and 2) talking in a way the layman won’t understand.

So you get a something in the middle, that probably doesn’t really suit the audience.

Pre-match stuff when he gets asked a sensible question his answers are very insightful.

But do you want him to start talking, 6s and 8s, half-spaces, etc…I don’t.  And I don’t want box entries, POMO or bomb alley either.

I have no doubts that Nige isn’t a dinosaur, as portrayed by some.  That’s just a lazy, age related thing.

Just on your two overarching points at the beginning.
1) I don’t want to be too judgemental with ad hominem comments but I think his guarded methodology is his way of controlling his anger 

2) Im not convinced that he is capable of more insightful analysis. 
 

PS I still don’t believe he is a talented communicator/ motivator in the style of Klopp 

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

I have no doubts that Nige isn’t a dinosaur, as portrayed by some.  That’s just a lazy, age related thing.

So how come the last time he was successful- his right hand man was none other than Shakespeare?

I understand that he's now appointing Terry Dacktell to the defensive coaching staff.

[Davefevs]

26 minutes ago, Jefferz said:

Just on your two overarching points at the beginning.
1) I don’t want to be too judgemental with ad hominem comments but I think his guarded methodology is his way of controlling his anger 

2) Im not convinced that he is capable of more insightful analysis. 
 

PS I still don’t believe he is a talented communicator/ motivator in the style of Klopp 

He’s been media trained to control his want to say lots.  His son when asked what his dad was like at home, said he talks at 100mph, therefore nothing like the persona we see.

Anger, enthusiasm, tomato, tomayto
 

@redsquirrelwill tell you what the real Nige is like outside of Tesco in Nailsea.