East Londoner Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 Love how sky interviewed several fans and not one of them had a Mancunian accent 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 37 minutes ago, Wiltshire robin said: Thanks guys makes sense now Doesn’t make it any less funny though seeing their downfall. @Northern Redposted a link by Swiss ramble, who detailed their finances. Interesting read. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Monkeh said: How do United spend millions on players then? Money generated by the Club , the Company From the numerous and extensive revenue streams The Glaziers were also the only owners to take a dividend from their Club last season in the Premier League Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, Sheltons Army said: Money generated by the Club , the Company From the numerous and extensive revenue streams The Glaziers were also the only owners to take a dividend from their Club last season in the Premier League But as owners and shareholders in a plc aren't they entitled to dividends if said company is porfitable? I just saw an interesting stat, man u have spent 1.4 billion on players and man City 930 million in the last 10 years, I dont know how true that is mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54-46 Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 Fantastic to see all the plastic Mancs facing the reality that their teams now a bit sh1te 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Monkeh said: But as owners and shareholders in a plc aren't they entitled to dividends if said company is porfitable? I just saw an interesting stat, man u have spent 1.4 billion on players and man City 930 million in the last 10 years, I dont know how true that is mind Depends on the dividend policy. Which won't be hard to find. It's a Cayman plc listed on the NYSE. The investor website will have the details of which shareholders get what dividends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, ExiledAjax said: Depends on the dividend policy. Which won't be hard to find. It's a Cayman plc listed on the NYSE. The investor website will have the details of which shareholders get what dividends. Yea may have a look for it when I get a chance, as it will be interesting, Like I said I'm no fan of the glazers but I don't think they are the reason United are in a mess, and there are many many worse owners out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, 54-46 said: Fantastic to see all the plastic Mancs facing the reality that their teams now a bit sh1te Yep,they ought to try following our lot! Football is cyclical, they are still a huge club and generate huge revenue, but the leadership and organisation is sub par, their signings, on the whole, are shambolic, and no one really cares, whether thats the glazers, management, or senior pros earning a fortune and not really being bothered about playing. The 13km run that ten haag made them do after the brentford game is quite telling! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, Monkeh said: Yea may have a look for it when I get a chance, as it will be interesting, Like I said I'm no fan of the glazers but I don't think they are the reason United are in a mess, and there are many many worse owners out there I have a personal view, formed from my experience of helping companies change hands, and from speaking to many CEOs and owners. That view is that ultimately a company's outlook, and success, and attitude, is set by that of its ultimate owner. This applies to all companies of all sizes. Manchester United's failure on the pitch may not be directly linked to decisions by the Glazers, but it is their attitude that sets the course. From them so all appointments, policies, and procedures flow. They may not be explicitly at fault, but the gradual decay, the attitude of hubris, the mismanagement, that stems from them. Just my anecdotal view. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Monkeh said: How do United spend millions on players then? Because they are the biggest commercial entity in world football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 I can’t wait for Roy Keane to blow his top with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 12 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: I have a personal view, formed from my experience of helping companies change hands, and from speaking to many CEOs and owners. That view is that ultimately a company's outlook, and success, and attitude, is set by that of its ultimate owner. This applies to all companies of all sizes. Manchester United's failure on the pitch may not be directly linked to decisions by the Glazers, but it is their attitude that sets the course. From them so all appointments, policies, and procedures flow. They may not be explicitly at fault, but the gradual decay, the attitude of hubris, the mismanagement, that stems from them. Just my anecdotal view. I hear what you are saying and you make some valid points. You cannot argue that on a infrastructure level they have made some poor choices - the training ground needs updating by all accounts and Old trafford again could do with some modernization. Having been to Old trafford a few months back for a stadium tour i must admitt that Gary Neville’s comments that it is ‘crumbling to the ground’ is a slight over exaggeration. As i said some modernization is needed but im baffled as to why a complete new stadium is required. A re-build of the bobby charlton stand and then an update of the other stands would be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 25 minutes ago, Simon bristol said: Yep,they ought to try following our lot! Football is cyclical, they are still a huge club and generate huge revenue, but the leadership and organisation is sub par, their signings, on the whole, are shambolic, and no one really cares, whether thats the glazers, management, or senior pros earning a fortune and not really being bothered about playing. The 13km run that ten haag made them do after the brentford game is quite telling! Rumour has it Harry Maguire is 3km from the finish..... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 Might be worth a watch tonight. Anyone know of a reliable stream? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ExiledAjax Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, bris red said: I hear what you are saying and you make some valid points. You cannot argue that on a infrastructure level they have made some poor choices - the training ground needs updating by all accounts and Old trafford again could do with some modernization. Having been to Old trafford a few months back for a stadium tour i must admitt that Gary Neville’s comments that it is ‘crumbling to the ground’ is a slight over exaggeration. As i said some modernization is needed but im baffled as to why a complete new stadium is required. A re-build of the bobby charlton stand and then an update of the other stands would be enough. Sure, and my view of that is that the Glazers are running Utd as a business/brand rather than a sports team. Their attitude to the stadium is to operate it cheaply, whilst keeping it looking, from a distance, good for the cameras. That's the attitude. Don't invest in the long term but keep it limping along with enough costume dressing to keep people happy. You see that same attitude in signing Ronaldo (or Falcao, or Di Maria, or Martial etc), in appointing Solskjaer, etc. It's appearances, and PR, and it's the "Show". Forgetting that in this business all of that crumbles if you lose football matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 Not seeing much sign of a protest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted August 22, 2022 Admin Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Not seeing much sign of a protest. Lots of "We want Glazers out" chanting so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, Ian M said: Lots of "We want Glazers out" chanting so far Can barely hear it. Not because they might not be chanting it, but the Doris is watching Master Chef Australia at such a volume they can probably hear it back in Oz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 5 hours ago, Monkeh said: The problem at United run deep, and while the owners are shit, they aren't the route course of the problem, Poor transfer policy is, or more to the point lack of transfer policy, Take Ronaldo, great player but he doesn't fit in at United he doesn't work hard enough, Take the midfield, they have too many similar players and not enough battlers, They've spent loads on players, funded provided to them by the owners, they just haven't spent well Interesting as I’d say that’s all Fred and McTominay are. I’d say they need some quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 22, 2022 Admin Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Not seeing much sign of a protest. They had a march to the stadium before the kick off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 Michael Oliver ignores it when Man utd wrestle Liverpool player to ground then gives free kick when the opposite happens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonRobin21 Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 It will be the Liverpool fans protesting at the state of their midfield at this rate. All I've seen is Henderson and Milner moaning at everyone, when they aren't even winning their individual battles in midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 22, 2022 Admin Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, phantom said: They had a march to the stadium before the kick off 5 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said: It will be the Liverpool fans protesting at the state of their midfield at this rate. All I've seen is Henderson and Milner moaning at everyone, when they aren't even winning their individual battles in midfield. Liverpool are pretty awful all over the pitch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, phantom said: They had a march to the stadium before the kick off So they walked to the game... where they probably all used the club bars and catering and put even more money in the owners pockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said: It will be the Liverpool fans protesting at the state of their midfield at this rate. All I've seen is Henderson and Milner moaning at everyone, when they aren't even winning their individual battles in midfield. Seeing that Liverpool midfield i had a punt on Manu at 7/2 . A price unheard of for them to win at Old Trafford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, stephenkibby. said: Seeing that Liverpool midfield i had a punt on Manu at 7/2 . A price unheard of for them to win at Old Trafford. Yep got 15/4 with bet365. Liverpool are struggling so far this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 Well it's not going well for Liverpool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 Liverpool are missing Mane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 31 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: So they walked to the game... where they probably all used the club bars and catering and put even more money in the owners pockets. They aren’t concerned about the owners really, it’s just that they aren’t winning trophies. That’s the only reason most follow them. They wouldn’t even be protesting tonight if they had won their first two games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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