2015 Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 Wow that's a disgraceful decision again. This is anti football when you disallow a goal like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 VAR….again it’s the talking point of football! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 5 hours ago, And Its Smith said: The Championship is better for not having VAR…we know a goal is a goal and can celebrate accordingly. This is what puts me off VAR too. Celebrating a goal wouldn’t be the same when you know that you’ve got to wait for it to be checked on video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 Almost don't want City to ever get promoted with this VAR BS - its grotesque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, 2015 said: Wow that's a disgraceful decision again. This is anti football when you disallow a goal like that Totally agree. Four and a half minutes to reach a, disgraceful decision. VAR and especially the utter plonkers who administrate it are killing football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 Just now, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Totally agree. Four and a half minutes to reach a, disgraceful decision. VAR and especially the utter plonkers who administrate it are killing football. Screams to me the officials didn't have a clue what to do but just thought well we'll rule it out anyway. How can you rule out a goal like that, it's criminal and ruining football games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 5 hours ago, Sheltons Army said: Not VAR , Goal line technology The West Ham disallowed goal yesterday was absolutely laughable I don’t think VAR (technology) is the problem , it’s some of those making decisions Peak day yesterday. I thought the Newcastle one was as bad. If it was not a goal, it had to be a penalty. How it is being used is laughable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 I’d much prefer to scrap VAR and let the match officials make the mistakes. Anything has to be better than 4-5 minute stoppages during the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 Is every goal now checked - it’s getting ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 They do check every goal, I think. That looked a foul to me, so correct decision in the end but it’s all too clinical. I thought the intent was to overrule the howlers, not every minor infraction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 I can see Tierney losing control of this game, don’t rate him at all He completely bottled Martinez doing Gabriel after 3 mins and I can see it getting spicy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 Bugger! Var review? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 2 hours ago, phantom said: I was at the Villa vs Manchester City game yesterday, shocker from the linesman flagging Coutinho offside when he wasn't. Rather than see the attack through the lino flagged and the ref blew the whistle just before the shot was hit. OK it went in, but we'll never know if he would have scored if the officials hadn't made such a balls up Yeah that's bad refereeing isn't it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 22 minutes ago, WarksRobin said: They do check every goal, I think. That looked a foul to me, so correct decision in the end but it’s all too clinical. I thought the intent was to overrule the howlers, not every minor infraction Maybe, tight call but its so infuriating. They want more physical contact but only obviously by/against certain players and teams. VAR should be abolished but as it won't be it should only be used to look at clear and obvious mistakes and in real time, no slow motion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 Tierney must have watched the replay 10-12 times before making a decision. Clear and obvious should be instant. Let them see it twice from two angles only and then make a call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Denbury Red said: It’s the mentality of the person - they are trying to find a reason NOT to give the goal - rather than a reason to GIVE the goal. Its a contact sport and the protection keepers get, and have got for some years now, needs to stop - if they jump with their hands up high to catch a ball no one can get near them - but if they are not in the right position then they need to take the rough with the smooth! Why? If a player is not in a playable distance of the ball they should not challenge for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 VAR have now admitted that they made errors in respect of both the West Ham and Newcastle decisions yesterday Simply embarrassing and incompetent , some would get their cards in real life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denbury Red Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 17 minutes ago, Cowshed said: Why? If a player is not in a playable distance of the ball they should not challenge for it. You missed my point or I wasn’t clear enough! What I mean is if the keeper is in the ‘right’ position he will win the ball every time - and if he’s fouled he deserves a free kick. If he’s not in the right position and when he jumps he can’t reach the ball - then both he and the attacker should be able to jump together without the ref blowing up for a foul every time and protecting the keeper more than protecting the attacker. The keeper always seems to get the free kick! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdivision Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 To me it was a clear foul on Eriksen. Arsenal player doesn’t get the ball, knocks Eriksen over. It doesn’t have to be GBH. I want Arsenal to win but it just seemed an obvious foul. Simple: no goal. VAR working properly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Denbury Red said: You missed my point or I wasn’t clear enough! What I mean is if the keeper is in the ‘right’ position he will win the ball every time - and if he’s fouled he deserves a free kick. If he’s not in the right position and when he jumps he can’t reach the ball - then both he and the attacker should be able to jump together without the ref blowing up for a foul every time and protecting the keeper more than protecting the attacker. The keeper always seems to get the free kick! The keeper has to be protected more. A keeper raising their arms is at more risk and more prone to injury hence why the keeper has more protection. The jump together is less relevant than hand v feet position. Players jump with keepers when they have no opportunity to get their head in playable distance of the ball, that is a foul. Challenging the keeper for a ball a player cannot get in playable distance of is careless/reckless play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Cowshed said: The keeper has to be protected more. A keeper raising their arms is at more risk and more prone to injury hence why the keeper has more protection. The jump together is less relevant than hand v feet position. Players jump with keepers when they have no opportunity to get their head in playable distance of the ball, that is a foul. Challenging the keeper for a ball a player cannot get in playable distance of is careless/reckless play. Did you used to be a keeper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 Anyone just see United s third goal Am I going crackers but is Rashford not offside when the balls played to Eriksen ? He looks at least a yard off , but VAR , or the Lino don’t seem to have noticed that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Anyone just see United s third goal Am I going crackers but is Rashford not offside when the balls played to Eriksen ? He looks at least a yard off , but VAR , or the Lino don’t seem to have noticed that Var decisions against man utd don't exist 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdivision Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Anyone just see United s third goal Am I going crackers but is Rashford not offside when the balls played to Eriksen ? He looks at least a yard off , but VAR , or the Lino don’t seem to have noticed that I’m not sure you understand the modern offside law. The ball was played to Eriksen, not Rashford. That’s the point. Rashford makes sure he’s onside when Eriksen plays it to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangle Foot Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 42 minutes ago, Engvall’s Splinter said: Tierney must have watched the replay 10-12 times before making a decision. Clear and obvious should be instant. Let them see it twice from two angles only and then make a call. Sorry but putting a time limit, or watching a small amount of possible replays, will only make for more VAR errors. One of the reasons they got the decision wrong in the Newcastle v Palace match was because the ref was not given the best angle of the incident to look at, on the pitch-side monitor, by VAR. Also the VAR was the more experienced of the two, so doubt the on field ref wanted to overrule him (based on the pictures he was given to look at). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, firstdivision said: I’m not sure you understand the modern offside law. The ball was played to Eriksen, not Rashford. That’s the point. Rashford makes sure he’s onside when Eriksen plays it to him. So Rashford isn’t interfering with play or active where he was ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Anyone just see United s third goal Am I going crackers but is Rashford not offside when the balls played to Eriksen ? He looks at least a yard off , but VAR , or the Lino don’t seem to have noticed that Correctly not flagged as per updated offside rule a few seasons ago but the law is an ass Just now, Sheltons Army said: So Rashford isn’t interfering with play or active where he was ? Not interfering in that phase of play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 Just now, And Its Smith said: Correctly not flagged as per updated offside rule a few seasons ago but the law is an ass Not interfering in that phase of play Fair enough Well not fair at all , it’s a nonsense ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Sheltons Army said: Fair enough Well not fair at all , it’s a nonsense ! Agreed it’s ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted September 4, 2022 Report Share Posted September 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tangle Foot said: Sorry but putting a time limit, or watching a small amount of possible replays, will only make for more VAR errors. One of the reasons they got the decision wrong in the Newcastle v Palace match was because the ref was not given the best angle of the incident to look at, on the pitch-side monitor, by VAR. Also the VAR was the more experienced of the two, so doubt the on field ref wanted to overrule him (based on the pictures he was given to look at). Irrelevant. The on field match official is the final arbiter not some numpty sat in a room watching a monitor hundreds of miles away. Today's officials in the Premier league and throughout the EFL not only lack the courage of their own convictions but are worst in decades. Whoever is training and guiding today's referees is doing a p**s poor job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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