gornagain Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 I see the people in the Dolman were leaving so early they hadn't even built it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, Cowshed said: The players would be improved further. These players created their great. The extrinsic and intrinsic drivers of what made them great remains in any era. What we see is people dont think think about how players became great. Its not arbitrary dictated by an age. Great players have distinguishing factors that transend any era, growth mindset, fight response, how humans acquire and create their skills , how axons work, myelination occurs doesnt change. Axons and myelination work in pretty much the same way in every healthy human. However they can be enhanced by applying modern day scientific methods that are accessible to the majority of professional footballers or any professional athlete - supreme fitness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 Anyone think it’s worth getting Bobby down to the HPC , give him 2-3 months , to catch up a bit Pay as you play ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted September 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 51 minutes ago, chinapig said: Q: Are we not men? A: We are Devo ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, Robbored said: Axons and myelination work in pretty much the same way in every healthy human. However they can be enhanced by applying modern day scientific methods that are accessible to the majority of professional footballers or any professional athlete - supreme fitness. You do not need supreme fitness to create neural pathways. The process requires repetition. The quality of the repetition enhances the process and this can mean a individual in football doesnt have to have beyond a moderate fitness level to create skill. Myelination is enhanced by intensity of training (football), its focus v physicality, and this then internalises the task. Off tangent .. Myelination can be stimulated by visualisation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: Yep, but then back to @TBWand the OP, why bother comparing in the first place…both methods are futile in that respect as well, aren’t they? Because that's what people do. They say "Oh, no Pele was way better than whoever"... Which isn't true. For his time. Maybe... But outright better. No. You get the same argument in other sports - "No team in today's NBA would beat the '96 Chicago Bulls"... I'm sorry but yes. They would. There isn't ever the asterisk of "if the Bulls had today's training etc." it's just 1-for-1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 5 hours ago, slartibartfast said: I was at this game as a 14 y o, didn't realize quite how poor the standard actually was back then! I know the pitches didn't help............another interesting point, listen to the silence when Man City score, away travel wasn't " a thing" back then, took another couple of years for it to really start. Any away fans (back then ) were mostly oldies travelling in ONE coach. They used to sit in stands (as opposed to terraces). At AG they seemed to used to congregate in the Grandstand (Williams) toward the EE. I was there!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted September 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: I was there!. Didn't see you ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 3 hours ago, TinMan's left peg said: Not just as far back as the 60s either - take a look at the ‘crap 90s football’ Twitter account The football even in the 00s. The last 10-15 years football has evolved so much I think. The quality of our play off games with Palace and Hull are pretty poor aside from the wonder strikes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paignton red Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 That proves it's better today. https://www.facebook.com/lfcboston/videos/association-football-harry-enfield-mr-cholmondley-warner/10153476765311773/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Out of his pie crust said: Yes…..but he’d probably have a better haircut And a sleeve of tattoos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 Jimmy Greaves would score a load of goals in whatever era he played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov 77 Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, downendcity said: Jimmy Greaves would score a load of goals in whatever era he played. Agreed quick and a great finisher at any time Talking of Greavsie , the one thing that would have changed his life is being sub in the World Cup final , may well have come on , but no subs allowed then BUT noticed on the film that five months earlier in domestic football subs were allowed , if only … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 It's actually an interesting discussion regarding how those players compare to nowadays. For example, if you were somehow able to strip it all back so they all had the same diet, physio, support, etc across generations, is there an argument to be had that players of today would still be considerably better purely due to humans simply getting better? For example world records in Olympic sports being continually broken over the years, etc. Or could we put that down to simply better coaching / wider talent pool, etc? Either way, I do know it's a moot point, you can only play what's in front of you, but I'd be interested to know the opinions of people who may be more clued up than me scientifically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 9 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Today’s Man City team would annihilate the 1966 England team. Quite possibly, but Manchester City’s team would be strengthened due to a number of world class foreign players, whereas England would be restricted to, well, English players . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 3 hours ago, downendcity said: Jimmy Greaves would score a load of goals in whatever era he played. His name came up on a radio show discussing Haaland which prompted to look at his record again. I love this bit in particular from his WIki page. He would score goals now I think but I don't think he would be quite this prolific. "In the 1960–61 season, Greaves scored hat-tricks against Wolves, Blackburn Rovers and Manchester City; he scored four goals against Newcastle United and Nottingham Forest; and hit five goals in a 7–1 win over West Bromwich Albion. His hat-trick against Manchester City on 19 November included his 100th league goal, making him the youngest player to pass the 100-goal mark, at the age of 20 years and 290 days." Wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Davefevs said: And I’m sure if Bobby Charlton had been born 50 years later, he’d have evolved to be a top player in an era half a decade later. Hmmm, I’m not so sure. I read some years ago that Bobby and his brother would be playing outside most nights, frequently after dark, practicing by kicking the ball against the wall etc. Today, or even just fifty years later, the neighbours would be screaming blue murder and they would probably be issued with ASBOs . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southside Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 33 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Quite possibly, but Manchester City’s team would be strengthened due to a number of world class foreign players, whereas England would be restricted to, well, English players . Plus, quite a lot of the 66 England team are dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, southside said: Plus, quite a lot of the 66 England team are dead Indeed, so a desperate, hard fought draw at best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 22 hours ago, paignton red said: That proves it's better today. https://www.facebook.com/lfcboston/videos/association-football-harry-enfield-mr-cholmondley-warner/10153476765311773/ Don’t get Cholmondley-Warner started on women professional footballers,WOMEN-KNOW YOUR PLACE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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