Major Isewater Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) Our results are not surprising due to the inbalance of our squad. We have many ,quality, but past their prime, Martin, James, King … and the others ,in the main quality , yet to reach their prime Scott,Conway, Vyner … Can we expect them to perform at the top of their games twice a week? Edited October 22, 2022 by Major Isewater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Our results are not surprising due to the inbalance of our squad. We have many ,quality, but past their prime, Martin, James, King … and the others ,in the main quality , yet to reach their prime Scott,Conway, Vyner … Isn't Vyner 25 ? How long do we have to wait for him to reach his prime and when he does will he be able to pass to a red shirt more often. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 Depends on what you class as peak age. It can be a matter of debate and can vary by position too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Our results are not surprising due to the inbalance of our squad. We have many ,quality, but past their prime, Martin, James, King … and the others ,in the main quality , yet to reach their prime Scott,Conway, Vyner … Can we expect them to perform at the top of their games twice a week? I think there is something to be said for this, but I’d say it’s more about not having enough “inspirational” players, the ones who can turn a very average team performance into a winning one with a bit of magic. I think we have a squad of very similar ability players in the main, age regardless. But I guess ultimately there are lots of reasons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 A Club of our standing , and certainly with our current financial restrictions are unlikely to possess most players in their ‘prime’ Sorry about that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 33 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Our results are not surprising due to the inbalance of our squad. We have many ,quality, but past their prime, Martin, James, King … and the others ,in the main quality , yet to reach their prime Scott,Conway, Vyner … Can we expect them to perform at the top of their games twice a week? @Major Isewaterin a few short words? Not that many. I posted something similar the other day but it might’ve been too tenuous. We recruit beneath from lower leagues and wonder why we struggle. We have happy hunting grounds in non-league football. We loan out to non-league football for those who are deemed up and coming to get game time. We buy injury prone or those in the autumn years of their careers. And guess what? We yo yo. We rely on the same old players and the same old tried and tested - and found out - tactics and we get what we’re given. Scott, Semenyo, Conway and Benayrous (spelt right?) are amongst the very few that have any quality that I’d want to keep. Add HNM perhaps but that’s about it Sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 Bentley, Vyner and Kalas are the only ones I’d consider to be in the prime of their careers. The rest have either yet to reach their prime or are past it IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 minute ago, BigAl&Toby said: @Major Isewaterin a few short words? Not that many. I posted something similar the other day but it might’ve been too tenuous. We recruit beneath from lower leagues and wonder why we struggle. We have happy hunting grounds in non-league football. We loan out to non-league football for those who are deemed up and coming to get game time. We buy injury prone or those in the autumn years of their careers. And guess what? We yo yo. We rely on the same old players and the same old tried and tested - and found out - tactics and we get what we’re given. Scott, Semenyo, Conway and Benayrous (spelt right?) are amongst the very few that have any quality that I’d want to keep. Add HNM perhaps but that’s about it Sadly. James, Williams, Weimann? Wells has scored a good number this season but age isn't on his side. Are we writing off Tanner and Wilson already. Atkinson not a relative success and with age on his side? There are others I could argue on but longer injuries, older or inconsisrent I accept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 41 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Isn't Vyner 25 ? How long do we have to wait for him to reach his prime and when he does will he be able to pass to a red shirt more often. I suspect he’s been asked to play the Naismith pinging balls 50yds role, he doesn’t seem to do it as much when Naismith is in the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: James, Williams, Weimann? Wells has scored a good number this season but age isn't on his side. Are we writing off Tanner and Wilson already. Atkinson not a relative success and with age on his side? There are others I could argue on but longer injuries, older or inconsisrent I accept. James? Matty James? Inconsistently useless. Williams? Inconsistently fit. And inconsistent at delivering from a deadball position. Weimann? Too old. Worth a few more seasons. Same with Wells. Time will tell with others - Tanner, Wilson, Atkinson. I fear they’ll possibly end up like others before them. Mediocrity enables mediocrity to shine. Hope I’m wrong but I fear many more seasons where we bleat on about FFP, being happy with a top half finish, etc. etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 I’m past my prime which probably explains why many of my post are rubbish. You can’t expect me to perform at the top of my games twice a week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Major Isewater said: Our results are not surprising due to the inbalance of our squad. We have many ,quality, but past their prime, Martin, James, King … and the others ,in the main quality , yet to reach their prime Scott,Conway, Vyner … Can we expect them to perform at the top of their games twice a week? I think @GrahamC was highlighting this a few weeks ago, we got no prime age players in the 25 - 28 years category. Although we had one in his prime last season, but that's over now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 Have spoken about this over the last few seasons. We have very few in that late 20's age point. There's valid reasons for it, financial mainly, but yeh it's absolutely a weakness in our squad. Not a terminal weakness that guarantees relegation, but certainly enough to make promotion more of a doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Major Isewater said: Our results are not surprising due to the inbalance of our squad. We have many ,quality, but past their prime, Martin, James, King … and the others ,in the main quality , yet to reach their prime Scott,Conway, Vyner … Can we expect them to perform at the top of their games twice a week? It's quite unusual for a club to have a team of players in their "prime" at the same time. Look at Liverpool now, they clearly haven't got that. Two, off the top of my head, were the late 90s United teams and the mid 2000s Barcelona sides - but that's at the top end of the game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 52 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Have spoken about this over the last few seasons. We have very few in that late 20's age point. There's valid reasons for it, financial mainly, but yeh it's absolutely a weakness in our squad. Not a terminal weakness that guarantees relegation, but certainly enough to make promotion more of a doubt. Clearly some doubts about our promotion prospects, as things stand 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 17 hours ago, Bristol Oil Services said: Clearly some doubts about our promotion prospects, as things stand Yeh of course. My point is that those doubts were also there in August. If you looked at our squad in the summer (and the summer prior) then it was glaringly obvious that we lacked players in their prime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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