italian dave Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 2 hours ago, weepywall said: Has FD had much game time for Senegal ? as I see he is 9/2 for anytime goal scorer tonight, quite short odds I thought. Started v Qatar, and scored a great goal. Unused sub in the other two games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Seriously. I really don’t get the love in with him. This is the same player who downed tools last 6 months of his contract . Bollocks to him , hope he gets sent off He's also scored 51 goals for our club over the prior 3.5 seasons. For me that's more important than 6 months at the end of his contract. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNasty Filth Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said: I think Fam does a lot to help poor folks in his home country (as do a lot of African players who have made it) so it wouldn`t surprise me if he sent a load of end-of-season unsold stock out there. You could be right. City fans in the crowd on the BBC this morning , who'd of thought it, must have mixed emotions about tonight. COYR, COE Edited December 4, 2022 by jaydee=inspiration 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 33 minutes ago, redkev said: Watching the England games on tv & interviewing the fans , a very different brand of England fans than usual , a lot of prawn sandwich brigade type fans . I wonder how many of these go to the likes of Lithuania / Poland / Andorra away etc Absolutely none … one England fan I term the word loosely who was interviewed this morning was a yank a lot of ex pats living over there are doing the games which makes sense if it so close to where you live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DolmanGaz Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 France Poland... can't see beyond a France win here but fingers crossed. Robyn Cowen commentating, so 5live it is. Here voice when anything exciting happens is like claws on a chalk board for me!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 hour ago, steviestevieneville said: Seriously. I really don’t get the love in with him. This is the same player who downed tools last 6 months of his contract . Bollocks to him , hope he gets sent off It’s the player who played 169 games for the club, 51 goals (only 25 players have ever scored more for the club), who slogged his guts out for us for 3.5 years and often in a pretty thankless role up front, and whose mind (like many players or other employees in a similar, situation) was elsewhere when it became apparent he wasn’t wanted. I’ll always think of him fondly and hope he does well (not tonight obviously). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, italian dave said: It’s the player who played 169 games for the club, 51 goals (only 25 players have ever scored more for the club), who slogged his guts out for us for 3.5 years and often in a pretty thankless role up front, and whose mind (like many players or other employees in a similar, situation) was elsewhere when it became apparent he wasn’t wanted. I’ll always think of him fondly and hope he does well (not tonight obviously). ‘Slogged his guts out’ Dave ? .......Occasionally.....sometimes ..... Reason he was often so isolated was he appeared incapable of playing with or forming a partnership I thought we should have moved him on 12-18 months in His goals cost us around £200k each Edited December 4, 2022 by Sheltons Army 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 minute ago, italian dave said: and whose mind (like many players or other employees in a similar, situation) was elsewhere when it became apparent he wasn’t wanted. He was the only player offered a contract…not sure he wasn’t wanted! FWIW I totally get the bit about how hard it can be to play up top, but there were many games before those last 6 months where I thought Fam went through the motions. For me he was a player who played differently when his place was under threat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 Haha, posts overlapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNasty Filth Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 Empty seats all over the shop, not a good look. Atmosphere flat as well, feels like a friendly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 Come on Poland ….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReds Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, jaydee=inspiration said: Empty seats all over the shop, not a good look. Atmosphere flat as well, feels like a friendly. At least we have Dion Dublin to listen to though. Insightful stuff I must say.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 Big miss there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 How did Giroud miss that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Lanterne Rouge said: How did Giroud miss that! Glad he did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 Anyone else wondering what the **** the stats in those side panels that keep coming up mean? Have they robbed it from American football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) Poland have played wirh more positivity today than the last couple of games IMO. Little flurry there. Decent supporting cast to Lewandowski and Zielinski on paper. They'll lose of course but I wondered if they needed to be quite so negative in the Group Stage. I guess that getting through the Group at a WC for the first time since 1986 can help- hoodoo resolved, pressure off a bit. Edited December 4, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) Great finish…did he even look up? (edit…nope…the goals don’t move) Edited December 4, 2022 by Davefevs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 Good goal that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 Bollocks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 30 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: ‘Slogged his guts out’ Dave ? .......Occasionally.....sometimes ..... Reason he was often so isolated was he appeared incapable of playing with or forming a partnership I thought we should have moved him on 12-18 months in His goals cost us around £200k each For me, yes. I know we had these debates at the time, but it was often away from home that he was playing the most thankless role, put in a real shift, got battered, and grabbed some vital goals for us. I agree that he never played as part of a decent partnership or an effective formation. How much if that was down to him, and how much down to the club/coach/manager of the time is probably debateable. And a bit chicken and egg. Much of his time with us was a very unsettled time for the club generally. You may be right about moving him on: that would have been the Mark Ashton objective I’ve no doubt. Although we didn’t really have a plan B at the time. Serious question: is £200k a goal exceptionally expensive for the Championship pre covid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) Goal for Giroud, Kaminski side netting. Could be a decent 2nd half? Presuming that France don't make it 2-0 quickly of course. Edited December 4, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 38 minutes ago, Davefevs said: He was the only player offered a contract…not sure he wasn’t wanted! FWIW I totally get the bit about how hard it can be to play up top, but there were many games before those last 6 months where I thought Fam went through the motions. For me he was a player who played differently when his place was under threat. Should probably have phrased that differently Dave….felt he wasn’t wanted. We none of us really know what goes on behind the scenes in these situations, and what the truth behind the various versions is. But it was pretty clear (I felt) that he knew he was on his way and the club wasn’t bending over backwards to try to keep him, rightly or wrongly. For the rest, as above post! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 49 minutes ago, DolmanGaz said: France Poland... can't see beyond a France win here but fingers crossed. Robyn Cowen commentating, so 5live it is. Here voice when anything exciting happens is like claws on a chalk board for me!! Wow, I'm not on my own then! I also turned off the commentary! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) Come on Poland….. these nutters leave the stones in olives on pizzas…..psychos Edited December 4, 2022 by Slippin cider 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 Allez les gars allez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, italian dave said: Serious question: is £200k a goal exceptionally expensive for the Championship pre covid? No, I just think there was more in him. (for info, I watched him a fair bit for Angers in the season he replaced Kodjia and I thought he was someone we should be interested in, so I though he had different parts to his game that we didn’t see) His goals record (individually) was decent enough, but I also thought the lack of partnership meant his goals were a bit solitary, unlike say last season where WSM all contributed. I also think that with a crosser like Eliasson, he really should have benefitted more. That reluctance to get across his man was frustrating…especially when you see the quality of his header in the World Cup. My no means do I think he was crap, but I thought we could’ve got more out of him. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, italian dave said: Should probably have phrased that differently Dave….felt he wasn’t wanted. We none of us really know what goes on behind the scenes in these situations, and what the truth behind the various versions is. But it was pretty clear (I felt) that he knew he was on his way and the club wasn’t bending over backwards to try to keep him, rightly or wrongly. For the rest, as above post! I certainly don’t believe we offered him £30k p.w. According to someone I know the club knew in summer of 2019 that he wouldn’t extend his 4 year deal (he was halfway through at that point). Combo of us wanted too much to get other clubs to nibble. We ended up getting bugger all. That part is a fault of the club not the player 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 Not even a free kick that let alone a yellow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, frenchred said: Wow, I'm not on my own then! I also turned off the commentary! Having to watch on iPlayer with the 5Live commentary as she is so grating on my ears it’s untrue! Means being 2 mins behind but it’s worth it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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