downendcity Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, TomF said: Maguire great again. Just shows if he’s alongside quality players. Picking up on Neville's half time comments. It does seem that Southgate is better at creating an environment and atmosphere conducive to getting the best out of Maguire than a succession of Man U managers. He also seems able to get players replicating their best club form, which his predecessors have struggled to manage all too often. H 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Robin Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, italian dave said: Always easier to say when you’ve won, but this referee tonight has been really really good. Any chance of cloning him and bringing his versions in the Championship to replace the current scum? Good luck against France. Great game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigate Red Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Super said: Same here on a works Xmas meal ffs Have you not heard the Grinch has cancelled Christmas - there's your excuse!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider_boy Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: 52/48 Not 52/48 again? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Bellingham MOTM surely? Kane for me…and I’m very critical of him. Bellingham, Henderson up there too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, downendcity said: Picking up on Neville's half time comments. It does seem that Southgate is better at creating an environment and atmosphere conducive to getting the best out of Maguire than a succession of Man U managers. He also seems able to get players replicating their best club form, which his predecessors have struggled to manage all too often. H You can see the group of players , many of whom crop up as controversial selections , and ‘why’ he ‘trusts them’ Pickford, Maguire , Stones , Henderson , ...and a few more He trusts them , and in return , they trust , and feel backed by him , and as a result deliver pretty damned consistently Johnson , and to some degree NP talk about players they could trust , but Southgate really does have those trusts Edited December 4, 2022 by Sheltons Army 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 Think France may well be Southgate’s defining moment. Might be harsh, but there will be those who say still the run to the SF last time we did not face any real giants, and lost three matches against the better sides. Foden and Bellingham make us a better side than then. For half a century we have not beaten a team that has won the World Cup away from Wembley in a knock out round. We have made later rounds, we have got close losing from time to time on penalties. Beat France and many of those demons are put to bed. Lose a QF again against one of the real contenders, well, been there before. Southgate’s Waterloo. Hopefully the same result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 I still need to be convinced what Grealish brings to the game. I just wish that he would play nice simple football when he comes on rather than You Tube stepovers and skips. I don't think he even fools the oppostion now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 Bellingham’s parents must just ooze with pride Besides his performances his manners , intelligence , and maturity in interviews is truly truly astonishing for his age 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, Sheltons Army said: Bellingham’s parents must just ooze with pride Besides his performances his manners , intelligence , and maturity in interviews is truly truly astonishing for his age Was just saying the same. Such an impressive young man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 Re Sterling, hearing his house was broken in to whilst his family were there. . Hard to imagine how he is feeling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, cityexile said: Think France may well be Southgate’s defining moment. Might be harsh, but there will be those who say still the run to the SF last time we did not face any real giants, and lost three matches against the better sides. Foden and Bellingham make us a better side than then. For half a century we have not beaten a team that has won the World Cup away from Wembley in a knock out round. We have made later rounds, we have got close losing from time to time on penalties. Beat France and many of those demons are put to bed. Lose a QF again against one of the real contenders, well, been there before. Southgate’s Waterloo. Hopefully the same result. We beat Germany in the euros though. How many defining moments does he need? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Sheltons Army said: Bellingham’s parents must just ooze with pride Besides his performances his manners , intelligence , and maturity in interviews is truly truly astonishing for his age By all accounts, his younger brother is something special as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, TomF said: Similar to Spain 10 or so years ago. Multiple underachievers but got over the voodoo and the trophies rolled in. The current holders tho, will be as tough as it gets Good analogue. We could play at our very best and still be edged out by France. To go in to a World Cup and expect to win it is nuts, 31 teams won’t, so it’s best to just enjoy the journey and it’s been pretty decent so far. Will be some fantastic young players on view our next match. Would love to kill all the voodoo at once and win on penalties. This team are used to going deep, and don’t fear the past. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Sheltons Army said: Bellingham’s parents must just ooze with pride Besides his performances his manners , intelligence , and maturity in interviews is truly truly astonishing for his age Footballers definitely aren’t as thick as they used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 minute ago, ChippenhamRed said: Footballers definitely aren’t as thick as they used to be. Nor as poor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, RUSSEL85 said: Re Sterling, hearing his house was broken in to whilst his family were there. . Hard to imagine how he is feeling. Poor lad But I’m surprised , with the money they earn , that they don’t employ quality security , especially when they are away from home 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 36 minutes ago, Show Me The Money! said: Your not giving Senegal any credit True. They played well in that period but we were sloppy and I bet we don’t allow France to start like that against us next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 I’d love to see Foden playing the number 10 role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 minute ago, pl00peh91 said: We beat Germany in the euros though. How many defining moments does he need? At Wembley. Difficult to argue with his success. It’s more personal I suppose. Since seeing us blow a 2-0 lead to West Germany in 1970, sometimes we have been poor, sometimes good, but have always just fallen short in the big games, sometimes by a whisker.I am ready for us to edge the big ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 minute ago, pl00peh91 said: We beat Germany in the euros though. How many defining moments does he need? That was a very limited German team who failed to get out of their group in the World Cups either side of that Euros. I’ve got a huge amount of respect for Southgate, but the one thing you have to say we haven’t done yet is win a game against a top team where we haven’t started as favourites. Beating France would undoubtedly be his biggest single game achievement as manager. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 “We were very sticky with the ball for 25 minutes”. Either the Manager is negative or saying it as it happened?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 The timing of Bellingham’s push into the side and his impact on the tournament reminds me so much of Gascogne into the 90 WC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 Really don’t have it in me to be stressed out over both the Rotherham and France games all week 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, petehinton said: Really don’t have it in me to be stressed out over both the Rotherham and France games all week I ain't frankly gonna give a toss if we are in the relegation zone Saturday afternoon if we are also in the World Cup Semi come 9pm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 How da **** have ITV got it again?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 minute ago, cidercity1987 said: How da **** have ITV got it again?? BBC won’t move Strictly ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 33 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: French defence isn’t great. Yes they are fantastic up top but we can do them damage bring it on This. Honestly think we can do a job on them. Plus they are missing a lot of key players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: BBC won’t move Strictly ? They did this week…..and not even for England…..much to the disgust of Mrs ID and the mother in law! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 Are France better than us? Don't rate that Centre Midfield, even Man Utd won't touch that Rabiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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