Swede Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 4 hours ago, italian dave said: I think we too easily expect players to have the same devotion to their clubs that we do, and we expect a commitment to their employer way beyond what the vast majority of us would even expect of ourselves. Yes, he could have signed a deal: he could have agreed to play for nothing if he'd wanted to. But why would he, or why should he do something that he doesn't think is going to be in his best interests career wise and financially. It's not like clubs - generally - show any such loyalty to players. They are ruthlessly ditched at early stages of most careers, they are loaned out, traded around, and very much secondary to the interests of any individual club. Players are seen by most clubs as a commodity. So it's hardly surprising that players in return don't feel the sort of loyalty that you're suggesting - to give something back. Not always the case, I'd accept. But if you go back to the time Fam was with us then, at Bristol City, that was very much the case. Our esteemed former chief exec, whose word you hold so much store by (unlike most on here!) absolutely personified that approach that saw players as commodities. Buy cheap, sell at top price, they were more about the bottom line of his spreadsheet and of his financial targets than they were footballers with a career. And blaming Fam for our financial plight is grossly unfair. If you're going to point fingers at players there were plenty whose cost benefit analysis would look far far worse - but the bigger picture is that its not the players who run the clubs finances. He signed a contract with us and he honoured it. There will be different views about his performances (clearly, from the above) but that's the case with any player, and with 51 goals you'd be hard pushed to argue that his contribution overall was anywhere near poor. Glad he didn't score last night though!! I actually agree with a lot of what you're saying. I don't blame the player for our financial plight, more so he typifies our current situation. We signed a player for £5M plus lucrative contract and offered him an even bigger contract to stay but that same player left for nothing. As far as that ex chief exec is concerned I think you'd be hard pressed to find an agreeable word for him by anyone on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) Right lads, it's war this Saturday. No baguettes from now on No croissants Don't even ****** dare look at macarons Play waterloo full blast before the game Hopefully we'll go quickly 3-0 up and they'll surrender at half time. If we're 1-0 down the Prussians will rock up. Edited December 5, 2022 by Sturny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sturny said: Right lads, it's war this Saturday. No baguettes from now on No croissants Don't even ****** dare look at macarons Play waterloo full blast before the game Hopefully we'll go quickly 3-0 up and they'll surrender at half time. If we're 1-0 down the Prussians will rock up. @PHILINFRANCEwhich side are you on…need to prep myself!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, Davefevs said: @PHILINFRANCEwhich side are you on…need to prep myself!!! Most firmly for England. I have sent messages to many French friends and business acquaintances bigging up next Saturday’s match, and received the expected responses. I am currently over here in England, not returning to France until Monday, and am not sure whether I should return home singing loudly or sneaking in via the back door. Fingers Crossed. Où est le papier? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Super said: Just out of interest if you could win one game on saturday would it be City at Rotherham or England beating France?! City for me. It would piss me off more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: and received the expected responses. White flags? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Super said: Just out of interest if you could win one game on saturday would it be City at Rotherham or England beating France?! Absolutely England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 City go down and England win World Cup or city go up and we lose on Saturday. Assuming everyone is City in this circumstance! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 City mention and photo on BBC sport just now. Ashely Williams played against Bellingham when with us and Lineker has brought that up. City at the World Cup. We're massive. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Nice little mention on BBC Ashley Williams leaving one on Jude :laugh: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Come on Japan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, Red Army 75 said: Come on Japan Yep. Would love them to advance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said: Yep. Would love them to advance. Ye same love an underdog. But very decent side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Ye same love an underdog. But very decent side They've done well and I'd like an Asian country to advance (and think Japan more likely than S. Korea). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) The empty seats at this tournament has been a sad sight to see but this game can barely be 75% full, if that. Such a shame. Edited December 5, 2022 by lenred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Fun opening 2 or 3 minutes there. Japan nearly taking an early lead and then a slide tackle on the Croatia keeper. Lovely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Continuing to enjoy this tournament, particularly its timing. Shout out to the officials, think most have been excellent and a special mention for the women, with the extra pressure on them, performed exceptionally imo. The players have helped as I’m sure there has there been less play-acting and professional fouling this time thankfully. Come on Japan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Don’t know what it is, but I love watching Japan play. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Japan playing so well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 GET IN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Malago said: Don’t know what it is, but I love watching Japan play. Skillful without being flashy. Direct without being a long ball team. All helps to be a really entertaining team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 1-0 it's all Jappening ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Get in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, Malago said: Don’t know what it is, but I love watching Japan play. Whenever they get the ball, their first thought is to go forward. The play at pace and press and harry the opposition all over the pitch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Japan could absolutely win this World Cup 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Japan will genuinely give any team a game I think. High energy, well drilled, good tricky footballers. Would love Japan vs South Korea as a Quarter final but don't think it will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Great run around the back of two defenders by Maeda to get into the position to sweep it home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, downendcity said: Whenever they get the ball, their first thought is to go forward. The play at pace and press and harry the opposition all over the pitch. I think it’s also the lack of cynicism. No pulling back, no throwing yourself to the floor, no holding of the face etc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted December 5, 2022 Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Japan have always had the high intensity side to their game, to me each tournament we have seen their game intelligence improve. The runs are more purposeful, the passing more accurate and intelligent, they are a real handful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2022 Great header Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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