Food Poisoning in Hospitality today?

[Norn Iron]

My mate, his daughter ( our goddaughter) and son treated themselves to the Hospitality package today (Swansea FA Cup). Approaching half time and his teenage daughter knew she was going to throw-up and not because of the football on offer.

She made it to the gangway before vomiting. The steward called for a cleaner which was the right and proper response.

Currently only the young son is ok. The family have suggested that the only item of food he didn't eat were the sausages.

The evidence suggests the illnesses are food related especially within the time frame of eating.

If anyone else has a tummy bug/been sick as a result of today's visit to Ashton Gate's food outlets, please write to the club. 

[Bar BS3]

Food poisoning doesn't usually take effect for several hours, if not a day or so - so someone being sick at half time, after a pre-match sausage is unlikely to be as a result of food poisoning.

It's far more likely that the household had contracted some sort of bug or virus - which they are probably now responsible for passing on to others - although, of course, they wouldn't have know it if they were feeling fine before the game. 

 

Edited January 8, 2023 by Bar BS3

[Vidal]

1 minute ago, Bar BS3 said:

Food poisoning doesn't usually take effect for several hours, if not a day or so - so someone being sick at half time, after a pre-match sausage is unlikely to be as a result of food poisoning.

It's far more likely that the household had contracted some sort of bug or virus - which they are probably now responsible for passing on to others - although, of course, they wouldn't have know it if they were feeling fine before the game. 

 

Depends on type of food , it can be within an hour.

[Norn Iron]

7 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Food poisoning doesn't usually take effect for several hours, if not a day or so - so someone being sick at half time, after a pre-match sausage is unlikely to be as a result of food poisoning.

It's far more likely that the household had contracted some sort of bug or virus - which they are probably now responsible for passing on to others - although, of course, they wouldn't have know it if they were feeling fine before the game. 

 

My wife used to be a staff nurse. If she says you can be ill within an hour of eating, then I believe my wife!

[Bar BS3]

Yes, of course it could be - but it would be more unlikely than likely for food poisoning to kick in as quickly as that.

Especially with the early kick off time meaning food has less time to sit around after preparation. 

It would be extremely negligent if food hygiene safe practise hadn't been adhered to at an outlet such as Ashton gate - of course not impossible - but unlikely. 

 

 

[BigTone]

8 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Food poisoning doesn't usually take effect for several hours, if not a day or so - so someone being sick at half time, after a pre-match sausage is unlikely to be as a result of food poisoning.

It's far more likely that the household had contracted some sort of bug or virus - which they are probably now responsible for passing on to others - although, of course, they wouldn't have know it if they were feeling fine before the game. 

 

My thoughts also

[Bar BS3]

1 minute ago, Norn Iron said:

My wife used to be a staff nurse. If she says you can be ill within an hour of eating, then I believe my wife!

Her prognosis is probably more accurate than mine, although I am qualified to Management level 2 

[Bar BS3]

Sorry, my quoting replies have gone to pot since I got a new phone! Keeps jumping all over the place and not letting me type what I want.

Management level 2 in SFBB food preparation.

I'm not saying that it's not FP, but it would be a very quick reaction if it was. It's far more usual for it to take several hours, if not a couple of days. 

Edited January 8, 2023 by Bar BS3

[Rebounder]

Possibly the food, but also there are a few bugs going around at the moment where sickness and nausea are a key component. Friends been sick a few times with their bug, and both me and my partner have had a similar/the same bug without actually being sick. 

[Norn Iron]

Good talking point though....

Here's what Dr Google says ..

 

 

 

[Norn Iron]

7 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Sorry, my quoting replies have gone to pot since I got a new phone! Keeps jumping all over the place and not letting me type what I want.

Management level 2 in SFBB food preparation.

I'm not saying that it's not FP, but it would be a very quick reaction if it was. It's far more usual for it to take several hours, if not a couple of days. 

You've got quoting issues on your phone?  Check out what I typed into the search engine at the top of my screenshot. Amazingly, Dr Google knew what I meant!

[Port Said Red]

It's less about the food, more about the type of infection. staphylococcus aureus can produce symptoms with 30 minutes, given the right conditions. It is usually caused by poor sanitary procedures by the staff or other customers, i.e. washing hands and moving between work stations. It's more likely to have been caused by something that wasn't cooked, salads, sandwiches, buffet type food. 

At the risk of sounding like I am pulling rank, I have an Advanced Food Hygiene qualification and could use the letters Member of Royal Environmental Health Institute of Scotland (MREHIS) after my name, if I could be bothered.  

[Norn Iron]

2 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

It's less about the food, more about the type of infection. staphylococcus aureus can produce symptoms with 30 minutes, given the right conditions. It is usually caused by poor sanitary procedures by the staff or other customers, i.e. washing hands and moving between work stations. It's more likely to have been caused by something that wasn't cooked, salads, sandwiches, buffet type food. 

At the risk of sounding like I am pulling rank, I have an Advanced Food Hygiene qualification and could use the letters Member of Royal Environmental Health Institute of Scotland (MREHIS) after my name, if I could be bothered.  

I wanted to give you a laughing icon as the last sentence made I laugh. However, I thought a like icon would be better because of the info. Sadly, I can only give one..... but I can't be bothered to make  decision!

[redkev]

Is there any real need to post this on a forum without 100% certainty of the cause , even then why not just report it to the club. It just seems like another stick to try and beat the club with whilst things are not the best on the pitch . With the power of social media before you know it there will be 50 people in hospital on deaths door after having a meal in hospitality as Ashton gate or some sort of scaremongering. In my opinion not a great post . Personally have done many corporate days at the gate over the last 25-30 years and have always thoroughly enjoyed the occasion the experience the food to varying degrees and Paul cheesley . What comes after the meal on the pitch well that has been a bit 50 / 50 and that’s being polite .

[Norn Iron]

8 minutes ago, redkev said:

Is there any real need to post this on a forum without 100% certainty of the cause , even then why not just report it to the club. It just seems like another stick to try and beat the club with whilst things are not the best on the pitch . With the power of social media before you know it there will be 50 people in hospital on deaths door after having a meal in hospitality as Ashton gate or some sort of scaremongering. In my opinion not a great post . Personally have done many corporate days at the gate over the last 25-30 years and have always thoroughly enjoyed the occasion the experience the food to varying degrees and Paul cheesley . What comes after the meal on the pitch well that has been a bit 50 / 50 and that’s being polite .

It's not BCFC bashing at all and there was certainly no intention of scaremongering.

It was posted just in case others have reacted badly to a meal today and were wondering why. It was a buffet meal with food brought in uncovered apparently. 

 

 

 

[Guest Emma WN]

This is quite an allegation and I'm assuming unsubstantiated by a visit to a Dr, hospital or another medical practice. This should be taken up with the club direct and not via social media. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Vidal]

8 minutes ago, Emma WN said:

This is quite an allegation and I'm assuming unsubstantiated by a visit to a Dr, hospital or another medical practice. This should be taken up with the club direct and not via social media. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Emma served them the dodgy sausages. 

[Guest]

29 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

At the risk of sounding like I am pulling rank, I have an Advanced Food Hygiene qualification and could use the letters Member of Royal Environmental Health Institute of Scotland (MREHIS) after my name, if I could be bothered.  

‘MREHIS’ Would be a great user name, how do you pronounce it?

[lenred]

1 minute ago, Vidal said:

Emma served them the dodgy sausages. 

Or owns the company that did!

[Vidal]

Just now, lenred said:

Or owns the company that did!

She has done 3 posts in 6 years….and one of them is about dodgy sausages

[Davefevs]

Just now, Vidal said:

She has done 3 posts in 6 years….and one of them is about dodgy sausages

Don’t worry, I got pulled up on Twitter by someone today because I dared question why Jolly Hog’s tweet about a breakfast only had one sausage included!

[redkev]

11 minutes ago, Norn Iron said:

It's not BCFC bashing at all and there was certainly no intention of scaremongering.

It was posted just in case others have reacted badly to a meal today and were wondering why. It was a buffet meal with food brought in uncovered apparently. 

 

 

 

I do take your point iron , but there you go UNCOVERED APPARENTLY 

[redkev]

12 minutes ago, Emma WN said:

This is quite an allegation and I'm assuming unsubstantiated by a visit to a Dr, hospital or another medical practice. This should be taken up with the club direct and not via social media. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I totally agree hence my post saying this .

[Vidal]

5 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Don’t worry, I got pulled up on Twitter by someone today because I dared question why Jolly Hog’s tweet about a breakfast only had one sausage included!

Was it Emma under a fake name?

[Spoons]

1 hour ago, Norn Iron said:

My mate, his daughter ( our goddaughter) and son treated themselves to the Hospitality package today (Swansea FA Cup). Approaching half time and his teenage daughter knew she was going to throw-up and not because of the football on offer.

She made it to the gangway before vomiting. The steward called for a cleaner which was the right and proper response.

Currently only the young son is ok. The family have suggested that the only item of food he didn't eat were the sausages.

The evidence suggests the illnesses are food related especially within the time frame of eating.

If anyone else has a tummy bug/been sick as a result of today's visit to Ashton Gate's food outlets, please write to the club. 

Not possible to be ill from food poisoning within a hour. 
It will be a bug, loads of them about. 
 

[Coombsy]

14 minutes ago, Norn Iron said:

It's not BCFC bashing at all and there was certainly no intention of scaremongering.

It was posted just in case others have reacted badly to a meal today and were wondering why. It was a buffet meal with food brought in uncovered apparently. 

 

 

 

I think it’s more about how you have worded the title 

it can be seen as slanderous 

may pay you to ask mods to remove

 

 

 
 

 

[lenred]

7 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Don’t worry, I got pulled up on Twitter by someone today because I dared question why Jolly Hog’s tweet about a breakfast only had one sausage included!

Hang your head in shame!

[Vidal]

1 minute ago, Coombsy said:

I think it’s more about how you have worded the title 

it can be seen as slanderous 

may pay you to ask mods to remove

 

 

 
 

 

It isn’t slanderous don’t be ridiculous.

[PHILINFRANCE]

45 minutes ago, Norn Iron said:

You've got quoting issues on your phone?  Check out what I typed into the search engine at the top of my screenshot. Amazingly, Dr Google knew what I meant!

Google probably recognised your location and provided the Irish translation .

[Coombsy]

1 minute ago, Vidal said:

It isn’t slanderous don’t be ridiculous.

What is then ?

 

 

[PHILINFRANCE]

3 minutes ago, Coombsy said:

I think it’s more about how you have worded the title 

it can be seen as slanderous 

may pay you to ask mods to remove

 

 

 
 

 

Or even libellous .

On a serious note, it might be prudent to preface the title with ‘Possible’.

[Norn Iron]

3 minutes ago, Coombsy said:

What is then ?

 

 

Libellous.

Mods, please add a question mark at the end of the title. Thank you.

[PHILINFRANCE]

6 minutes ago, Spoons said:

Not possible to be ill from food poisoning within a hour. 
It will be a bug, loads of them about. 
 

It may well be a bug, but I can assure you it is possible to suffer from food poisoning.

I have had the unfortunate experience on more than one occasion of witnessing this personally, usually due to eating ‘dodgy’ seafood, especially shellfish and particularly oysters; the latter, of course, generally being eaten raw.

Fortunately, I have only suffered one such incident, due to eating a steak tartare, which I discovered subsequently had been left on display in the presentation cabinet of the restaurant - including the egg yolk!

[Davefevs]

3 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

It may well be a bug, but I can assure you it is possible to suffer from food poisoning.

I have had the unfortunate experience on more than one occasion of witnessing this personally, usually due to eating ‘dodgy’ seafood, especially shellfish and particularly oysters; the latter, of course, generally being eaten raw.

Fortunately, I have only suffered one such incident, due to eating a steak tartare, which I discovered subsequently had been left on display in the presentation cabinet of the restaurant - including the egg yolk!

When did they start offering Steak Tartare on the menu at The Lamb

[The Fat Controller]

27 minutes ago, Countryfile said:

‘MREHIS’ Would be a great user name, how do you pronounce it?

Its the sound you make when you try (and fail) to stifle a sneeze. 

[Norn Iron]

Apologies for the way this thread had been interpreted.

At no time was it to demean anyone at the club. I wanted to make sure that if anyone else was/is suffering as a result of eating in hospitality today, then they are not alone.

 

[E.J.Thribb]

Hmmmm…a teenager throwing up on a Sunday. Methinks she’s been drinking something she shouldn’t have in the park last night. 

[Guest Emma WN]

44 minutes ago, Vidal said:

Emma served them the dodgy sausages. 

Ahh bless ya! I work in construction, but your wildly inaccurate and somewhat random comment, is amusing. 

[Port Said Red]

1 hour ago, Norn Iron said:

I wanted to give you a laughing icon as the last sentence made I laugh. However, I thought a like icon would be better because of the info. Sadly, I can only give one..... but I can't be bothered to make  decision!

I have put the laugh emoji on your post so you can use the "like," one on Mine now.

43 minutes ago, Countryfile said:

‘MREHIS’ Would be a great user name, how do you pronounce it?

M Re hiss

35 minutes ago, Spoons said:

Not possible to be ill from food poisoning within a hour. 
It will be a bug, loads of them about. 
 

Yes it is, I just told you.

[Port Said Red]

1 minute ago, TomF said:

I got food poisoning about a year ago at a local pub that offers great views across to wales - I didn’t assume straight away that it was food poisoning as a crohns sufferer that it could have been that.  After 3-4 days of it I had to go to docs and after a stool sample it was confirmed by the GP - at which point by law they had to contact environmental health. It’s only at that point did I figure it all out (another person in party fell I’ll same time) but it was a full 24+ hours before started being ill 

Royal, Windmill or Ship?

24 hours sounds more like campylobacter. A very different bug, could have been introduced before it even reached the venue.

Edited January 8, 2023 by Port Said Red

[Port Said Red]

Just now, TomF said:

Well it’s not the closed one.  It was exactly that, but two of us only ate there and hadn’t been in company either before or after.   Defo avoided the venue since 

Thanks it would be good to know as a local myself. The closed one was still open this time last year, only reason I asked. It's due to reopen soon as a Chef and Brewer isn't it?

[East End Old Boy]

6 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

Royal, Windmill or Ship?

24 hours sounds more like campylobacter. A very different bug, could have been introduced before it even reached the venue.

Campylobacter is not pleasant, had it once and environment health, as Tom alluded to, were informed - best diet I ever had to lose weight quickly! Also, didn’t eat at either The Ship (good old Vic!) the Royal or the Hole in One!

[Lorenzos Only Goal]

2 hours ago, Norn Iron said:

My mate, his daughter ( our goddaughter) and son treated themselves to the Hospitality package today (Swansea FA Cup). Approaching half time and his teenage daughter knew she was going to throw-up and not because of the football on offer.

She made it to the gangway before vomiting. The steward called for a cleaner which was the right and proper response.

Currently only the young son is ok. The family have suggested that the only item of food he didn't eat were the sausages.

The evidence suggests the illnesses are food related especially within the time frame of eating.

If anyone else has a tummy bug/been sick as a result of today's visit to Ashton Gate's food outlets, please write to the club. 

Undercooked pork is very dangerous it could be a couple of things but it sounds like it could be trichinosis.  That can be very serious it's worth getting checked by a GP it's caused by a parasite. 

[Davefevs]

4 minutes ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said:

Undercooked pork is very dangerous it could be a couple of things but it sounds like it could be trichinosis.  That can be very serious it's worth getting checked by a GP it's caused by a parasite. 

Marriott Swindon - Pork Ribs is the only time I’ve had what I believe was food poisoning.  When you don’t know whether to sit or kneel, it’s not very pleasant.

[Port Said Red]

12 minutes ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said:

Undercooked pork is very dangerous it could be a couple of things but it sounds like it could be trichinosis.  That can be very serious it's worth getting checked by a GP it's caused by a parasite. 

Trichinosis won't show for at least a day, sometimes as much as a week, which can make it difficult to trace the source. I think it's unlikely here.

[Norn Iron]

Thanks to the mod (s) for adding the ?

And the mysterians comes to mind!

Edited January 8, 2023 by Norn Iron
Spelling mistake

[REDOXO]

Bloody Nigel Pearson. I told you he wasn’t grilling them sausages properly    
 

Food poisoning sickness etc in an hour Possible, but not likely, and I don’t care who you talk too! 
 

 

[Port Said Red]

4 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

Bloody Nigel Pearson. I told you he wasn’t grilling them sausages properly    
 

Food poisoning sickness etc in an hour Possible, but not likely, and I don’t care who you talk too! 
 

Last time I will say it "Staph" can cause symptoms as quick as 30 minutes, and is the most common form of food poisoning in the UK. 

But to emphasise my earlier point, it could come from other customers as easily as the employees. Someone in front of you at the buffet picking up items then putting them back, shared nibble plates for example.

[Davefevs]

7 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

Bloody Nigel Pearson. I told you he wasn’t grilling them sausages properly    
 

Food poisoning sickness etc in an hour Possible, but not likely, and I don’t care who you talk too! 
 

 

He’s too soft on them

[E.J.Thribb]

3 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

He’s too soft on them

When will we have a manager who embraces modern food hygiene practices instead of old-skool methods?!?

[Porto Red]

2 hours ago, Port Said Red said:

At the risk of sounding like I am pulling rank, I have an Advanced Food Hygiene qualification and could use the letters Member of Royal Environmental Health Institute of Scotland (MREHIS) after my name, if I could be bothered.  

I could use RFS Cert. Arb. although quite how tree surgery is relevant is up for debate, bit extreme as a curative.

Do any of your other readers have superfluous qualifications entitling them to add letters after their name?

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

If I’m paying for hospitality I don’t want to be served bloody sausages….not unless those sausages are made of mashed up white truffles and pate de fwaa graa.

[Super]

Didn't realise we had so many medical experts on OTIB. I'll know where to come when I can't get a doctors appointment!

[ralphindevon]

I’m doing hospitality next Saturday with a Brum supporting mate.

He’s going to think I’m really odd when I pass all my food to him and I just stick to drink. 

[Fordy62]

This is an excellent thread(worm). 

Oh sorry that’s something completely different!

[Port Said Red]

2 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

This is an excellent thread(worm). 

Oh sorry that’s something completely different!

Ah don't get me started on that subject, I had to write a 10,000 word essay on them for my exam.

[Open End Numb Legs]

40 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

Bloody Nigel Pearson. I told you he wasn’t grilling them sausages properly    

 

 

He was probably too busy grilling the players at HT. Sounds like he made a decent job of that at least.

[PHILINFRANCE]

53 minutes ago, PortSaidRed MREHIS said:

Last time I will say it "Staph" can cause symptoms as quick as 30 minutes, and is the most common form of food poisoning in the UK. 

A 30 second check on our friend Google confirms exactly what you state.

I must say, though, that I was surprised to read that ‘Staph’ is the most common form of food poisoning, as I was always under the impression that ‘most’ cases of food poisoning manifest themselves after 24 hours or so.

I assume that is because other types of food poisoning are due to inherent problems within the food itself, whereas ‘Staph’ is frequently due to poor personal hygiene.

Edited January 8, 2023 by PHILINFRANCE

[redsquirrel]

45 minutes ago, ralphindevon said:

I’m doing hospitality next Saturday with a Brum supporting mate.

He’s going to think I’m really odd when I pass all my food to him and I just stick to drink. 

take a packed lunch

[REDOXO]

1 hour ago, PortSaidRed MREHIS said:

Last time I will say it "Staph" can cause symptoms as quick as 30 minutes, and is the most common form of food poisoning in the UK. 

But to emphasise my earlier point, it could come from other customers as easily as the employees. Someone in front of you at the buffet picking up items then putting them back, shared nibble plates for example.

Last time I say it. Possible but not likely. 

[Davefevs]

[PHILINFRANCE]

1 hour ago, REDOXO said:

Last time I say it. Possible but not likely. 

As you wish, but....

Symptoms of staphylococcal food poisoning usually begin abruptly with severe nausea and vomiting starting about 30 minutes to 8 hours after the contaminated food is eaten. Other symptoms include abdominal cramping, diarrhea, and sometimes headache and fever. Severe fluid and electrolyte loss may cause weakness and very low blood pressure (shock). Symptoms usually last for about a day, and recovery is usually complete.

Occasionally, staphylococcal food poisoning is fatal, especially in the very young, the very old, and people weakened by long-term illness.

I was sceptical as I had always believed that food poisoning took 24 hours to manifest itself.

Then I did a little bit of (very simple) research....

 

[REDOXO]

1 hour ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

As you wish, but....

Symptoms of staphylococcal food poisoning usually begin abruptly with severe nausea and vomiting starting about 30 minutes to 8 hours after the contaminated food is eaten. Other symptoms include abdominal cramping, diarrhea, and sometimes headache and fever. Severe fluid and electrolyte loss may cause weakness and very low blood pressure (shock). Symptoms usually last for about a day, and recovery is usually complete.

Occasionally, staphylococcal food poisoning is fatal, especially in the very young, the very old, and people weakened by long-term illness.

I was sceptical as I had always believed that food poisoning took 24 hours to manifest itself.

Then I did a little bit of (very simple) research....

 

So we have a continued diagnosis and a poster using a professional health qualification. 
 

I will report the issue to food.safety@bristol.gov.uk  and Bristol City FC Tomorrow morning  

How to report a food safety or hygiene issue

You can report a food problem in a restaurant, a food shop, a concern about an item purchased or with food ordered online to the local authority where the business is located. The local authority food safety team will consider the complaint and determine the most appropriate course of action.

Use this service to find contact details of the food safety team. You will have an option to email the team or use the local authority's website to report your issue.

What you can report

You can report:

• suspected food poisoning
• a foreign object found in your food
• dirty premises
• poor hand hygiene
• poor food handling
• food with visible signs of mould or decay
• food sold past its use-by date
• unavailable or incorrect allergen information

 

[bpexile]

5 hours ago, Porto Red said:

I could use RFS Cert. Arb. although quite how tree surgery is relevant is up for debate, bit extreme as a curative.

Do any of your other readers have superfluous qualifications entitling them to add letters after their name?

I could use my BOF Degree (Batchelor of Flatulance) but it's not really advisable with those  symptoms

[Oh Louie louie]

I do find it odd sausages served in hospitality who were they expecting Bob cajoress?  Norm I have a theory, sl told Mark Ashton to ring bowyer and get the deal done there may have been a breakdown in communications, on a serious note hope she's ok

[Mad Cyril]

9 hours ago, Davefevs said:

When you don’t know whether to sit or kneel, it’s not very pleasant.

Reminds me of a bad experience in a lay-by on Tog Hill once

[Vidal]

11 hours ago, Emma WN said:

Ahh bless ya! I work in construction, but your wildly inaccurate and somewhat random comment, is amusing. 

Does the construction involve either Pork or Beef being built into a long circular structure?

[Bristol Rob]

[Norn Iron]

Jerry (SLO) has very kindly emailed me and I have forwarded it to my friend. Thanks Jerry.