Redstart Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Just Googled, Potter in the last 6 months or so has turned down Lyon, Crystal Palace and Sweden so it feels a bit fanciful him going to Stoke in their current position. Can't help wondering if his very large payout from Chelsea would be severely cut if he takes on a new job within a certain timescale. Either that or he really rates himself. Can see him being the next Curbishley, linked with everyone - joins no one. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, Redstart said: Can't help wondering if his very large payout from Chelsea would be severely cut if he takes on a new job within a certain timescale. Either that or he really rates himself. Can see him being the next Curbishley, linked with everyone - joins no one. With you on the first bit, that could be a factor. Didn't get his full contact but reportedly £10-15m, on what terms would depend. Would be a bit of a waste, he can surely do better than Stoke in their current position anyway. Wonder if Brighton v Crystal Palace antipathy played a role there but I doubt it in reality. Still the game moves swiftly on so if he leaves it too long.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) Key word searching, Stoke fans a bit like Derby in the past, seem to have little grasp of Football financial issues. I'd be surprised if their acquisitions in the summer and there were without doubt many, had a salary below £10k per week as an average. Then the fees, £15-20m in total? They also have very high ambitions managerial, Potter, Nuno, Hassenhuttl all desired. Their underlying loss before sales in 2021-22 was around £29m. Edited December 11, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 39 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Key word searching, Stoke fans a bit like Derby in the past, seem to have little grasp of Football financial issues. I'd be surprised if their acquisitions in the summer and there were without doubt many, had a salary below £10k per week as an average. Then the fees, £15-20m in total? They also have very high ambitions managerial, Potter, Nuno, Hassenhuttl all desired. Their underlying loss before sales in 2021-22 was around £29m. Have you been to Stoke? They elected Jonathan Gillis as their MP, he’s basically a shaved ape, a complete & utter moron. Vile place full of stupid people, their failure (& us winning there 5 years on the trot) gives me joy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, GrahamC said: Have you been to Stoke? They elected Jonathan Gillis as their MP, he’s basically a shaved ape, a complete & utter moron. Vile place full of stupid people, their failure (& us winning there 5 years on the trot) gives me joy. Never had the, ahem, privilege of a trip to Stoke- sounds like I'm not missing much. Yes they were a major Brexit vote iirc. Politics aside I also enjoy beating them, have a bug issue with their FFP Covid returns oh and Pulis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) Lot of chatter on Twitter about Nuno to Stoke. Surely he would be seeking bigger things. Valencia, Porto, Wolves up, then 7th x 2, into Europe...and Stoke in the bottom 5 of the Championship. Journo reckons he is the Bookies favourite. Edited December 14, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) Percy says... Let's recall. Nuno? More like No no! Same for Hassenhuttl among other grand proclamations. Potter, obviously that was a non-starter. Schumacher from Plymouth. Big blow for Plymouth! They are quite a watchable side, and certainly seem to attack at home. Edited December 18, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 He should take advice from Nathan Jones, Gary Rowett and Alex Neil before going there ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 Odd one Surely Schumacher could have waited to go higher before going from lower Champ size club to mid Champ size club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: Odd one Surely Schumacher could have waited to go higher before going from lower Champ size club to mid Champ size club The local news down here thinks this could well happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) He is unequivocally a more attacking coach IMO than Neil, Jones or Rowett, is possibly a bit of a non typical Stoke type appointment? There are lots of goals at both ends with Plymouth, their away record though is very sketchy at this level. Edited December 18, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Lanterne Rouge said: The local news down here thinks this could well happen. Wants to move nearer to home? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 12 hours ago, Markthehorn said: Wants to move nearer to home? Plus the opportunity to have a much bigger budget. Tough for Argyle, they keep finding excellent managers & having them poached due to their location. Be very interesting to see who gets it, brilliant opportunity but you have to buy in to how far away it is from everything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 4 hours ago, GrahamC said: Plus the opportunity to have a much bigger budget. Tough for Argyle, they keep finding excellent managers & having them poached due to their location. Be very interesting to see who gets it, brilliant opportunity but you have to buy in to how far away it is from everything. Stoke are reportedly willing to quadruple Schumacher’s wages, from around £5k per week currently to around £20k. That, and the fact he’s a scouser moving close to home, makes it a no-brainer for Stoke. Could be a good appointment for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, tin said: Stoke are reportedly willing to quadruple Schumacher’s wages, from around £5k per week currently to around £20k. That, and the fact he’s a scouser moving close to home, makes it a no-brainer for Stoke. Could be a good appointment for them. Plymouth probably could afford in isolation a bump up in wages but overall they don't spend to limits, Stoke can as they're owned by a bloody Betting Company plus varied sponsorships by them too. No competing on the Geography point either as you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 Bad decision by Schumacher imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 Much as it pains me with players and managers jumping ship so quickly, and loyalty or lack of it works two way, as per usual, Mike gets it spot on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 (edited) Now the Technical Director Ricky Martin who was presumably part of the long term rebuild has been sacked. Just checked he was appointed in November 2022. Edited February 22 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Now the Technical Director Ricky Martin who was presumably part of the long term rebuild has been sacked. When Neil joined them he said the constant churn of players had to stop. Evidently nobody listened to him. They make Chelsea look efficient in their recruitment. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 Just now, chinapig said: When Neil joined them he said the constant churn of players had to stop. Evidently nobody listened to him. They make Chelsea look efficient in their recruitment. He wasn't keen on too many loan signings from memory hut they still sign plenty. Plus non loanees of course. Bewildering churn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 16 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: He wasn't keen on too many loan signings from memory hut they still sign plenty. Plus non loanees of course. Bewildering churn. I have to wonder whether the owners are interfering in the process. I look forward to them being the richest owners in League 1 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 36 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Now the Technical Director Ricky Martin who was presumably part of the long term rebuild has been sacked. Just checked he was appointed in November 2022. Obviously living La Vida Loca got too much for the clayheads 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 2 hours ago, chinapig said: I have to wonder whether the owners are interfering in the process. I look forward to them being the richest owners in League 1 though. It would be amusing to see them back in League 1 after everything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 10 hours ago, chinapig said: I have to wonder whether the owners are interfering in the process. I look forward to them being the richest owners in League 1 though. Hmmm, Aren't you forgetting someone? Maybe they'll be the second richest. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 I don’t think there are many protests against the owners like at other clubs but Stoke do seem to be in the same position regardless of who they appoint and buy ! I don’t think they have even been in the playoff race since coming down . Maybe the Pullis era was their once in a generation time ? And it’s back to reality for them like it probably will be for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fgrsimon Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 11 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Looking like a terrible footballing decision by Schumacher, not withstanding a big salary increase. Very rarely a good move to drop down to a so-called 'bigger' club below you in the league as Alex Neill found out before him. Pivotal games for both him and Liam Manning on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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