BCFCAL Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 https://www.bcfc.co.uk/city-men-news/bristol-city-kit-update/ City not going to have the away kit ready until September. In my opinion, City have been unbelievably poor in the last couple of years in regards to kits, last season's fiasco, and then this now. I think both kits released for this season are poor (obviously just my personal opinion), especially that third kit, and now they've failed to deliver an away kit before the start of the season. I understand that last year it may not have been City at fault, but it was a shambles, changing kit before a new season etc. Not good enough for a team that looks to be keep going on the up - stadium, squad, financially etc. and then we keep making ridiculous mistakes that are extremely avoidable, it's a real shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Not Banksy said: At least they’ve acknowledged it… but you’re right.. fine saying that things are delayed and stock was defected… but why? Seems like a box tick more than anything else The difference between admitting something and explaining something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, BCFCAL said: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/city-men-news/bristol-city-kit-update/ City not going to have the away kit ready until September. In my opinion, City have been unbelievably poor in the last couple of years in regards to kits, last season's fiasco, and then this now. I think both kits released for this season are poor (obviously just my personal opinion), especially that third kit, and now they've failed to deliver an away kit before the start of the season. I understand that last year it may not have been City at fault, but it was a shambles, changing kit before a new season etc. Not good enough for a team that looks to be keep going on the up - stadium, squad, financially etc. and then we keep making ridiculous mistakes that are extremely avoidable, it's a real shame. You understand its not our fault but then have gone on to blame us? It's not our fault that Elite Sports went bust which meant we had to change kits. We had ran out of kits. We were using kits from the club shop which we had also ran out of. We had no choice but to have new shirts. I really can't see that without a crystal ball, how that was avoidable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said: It's a better explanation than the last one but it frustrates me that there's nothing about why these issues occur. Why is the away kit delayed until September? Why are we using a "motif" or "design element" instead of our Club crest? Why did they proceed with using/selling home shirts with clearly defective collars? There's also nothing concrete about how these issues will be avoided in the future. So it's better, but it's still pretty lightweight and non-committal. I kind of agree, but also why do we need to know some of this? Does it have any impact if they go "Ah sorry we submitted the design a week late" or "It was stuck in a back and forth design committee for a month" or whatever? It's not like we can do of affect anything if we know that, and all it'll likely do it stoke further frustration and finger pointing. I get that we're more than just consumers (you'd hope), we're fans, we want input, we want accountability, but I think it'd be quite odd for a club or company to come out with public statements about the kind of thing above, with "why's" and details which may then involve individuals or other companies. It'd be borderline unprofessional depending on the reasons. I agree the communication needs to be better and sooner, but we also have to be kind of realistic with what we expect. For me, the biggest issue as you're talking about "why" above, is that I can't see anyone related to the clothing thinking WHY fans wear the stuff in the first place, and keeping that front and center at all times. For me, and for most I expect it's not to make a fashion statement, it's not to wear something new and original, it's to visibly display our support for the club. Having a yellow third kit with O'Neills, Huboo, and the splat on it don't do that - I expect most fans would struggle to tell you which team that was. The same problem with the blue training wear with "City" on it. They've missed, or just not got people with the mindset in place to think about why. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, IAmNick said: I kind of agree, but also why do we need to know some of this? Does it have any impact if they go "Ah sorry we submitted the design a week late" or "It was stuck in a back and forth design committee for a month" or whatever? It's not like we can do of affect anything if we know that, and all it'll likely do it stoke further frustration and finger pointing. I get that we're more than just consumers (you'd hope), we're fans, we want input, we want accountability, but I think it'd be quite odd for a club or company to come out with public statements about the kind of thing above, with "why's" and details which may then involve individuals or other companies. It'd be borderline unprofessional depending on the reasons. I agree the communication needs to be better and sooner, but we also have to be kind of realistic with what we expect. For me, the biggest issue as you're talking about "why" above, is that I can't see anyone related to the clothing thinking WHY fans wear the stuff in the first place, and keeping that front and center at all times. For me, and for most I expect it's not to make a fashion statement, it's not to wear something new and original, it's to visibly display our support for the club. Having a yellow third kit with O'Neills, Huboo, and the splat on it don't do that - I expect most fans would struggle to tell you which team that was. The same problem with the blue training wear with "City" on it. They've missed, or just not got people with the mindset in place to think about why. I can agree on my first and third points. The second one though, no I expect a proper explanation as to why they thought they needed to use a "design element" in place of the badge. Edited August 2, 2023 by ExiledAjax 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said: I can agree on my first and third points. The second one though, no I expect a proper explanation as to why they thought they needed to use a "design element" in place of the badge. Agree. It’s not a proper explanation at all. The positive I take from it is the club , especially JL now understands not to keep buggering about with the badge & how much people dislike splat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 Just now, steviestevieneville said: Agree. It’s not a proper explanation at all. The positive I take from it is the club , especially JL now understands not to keep buggering about with the badge & how much people dislike splat. .. and that O’Neils need to raise their game by several notches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Agree. It’s not a proper explanation at all. The positive I take from it is the club , especially JL now understands not to keep buggering about with the badge & how much people dislike splat. You have a lot more faith in him than I do, that he won't just shrug his shoulders and say "who gives a **** what they think,I'm the boss" 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCAL Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 24 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: You understand its not our fault but then have gone on to blame us? It's not our fault that Elite Sports went bust which meant we had to change kits. We had ran out of kits. We were using kits from the club shop which we had also ran out of. We had no choice but to have new shirts. I really can't see that without a crystal ball, how that was avoidable? I didn't want to blame it all on City. There was about 20 clubs in the UK that were using Hummel and therefore being distributed by Elite Sports, I'm pretty sure that City were the only ones to change kit mid-season. Away kits last year also weren't replenished prior to Elite Sports going bust, it was because it's all done off of statistics and due to a lower selling away kit the year before, that's why it wasn't restocked prior to Elite Sports going bust. And that was actually a lovely kit, and I wish I had managed to get my hands on it before it going out of stock. Hopefully this season's away kit is similar to make up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 Can't see any reference to Bristol City on the O'Neills website, I'm sure they had a story on there last season about becoming our new kit suppliers. Probably just missed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 34 minutes ago, BCFCAL said: I didn't want to blame it all on City. There was about 20 clubs in the UK that were using Hummel and therefore being distributed by Elite Sports, I'm pretty sure that City were the only ones to change kit mid-season. Away kits last year also weren't replenished prior to Elite Sports going bust, it was because it's all done off of statistics and due to a lower selling away kit the year before, that's why it wasn't restocked prior to Elite Sports going bust. And that was actually a lovely kit, and I wish I had managed to get my hands on it before it going out of stock. Hopefully this season's away kit is similar to make up for it. We literally ran out of kits to use. So what else were we to do? Elite Sports didn't just go bust over night. They were in big trouble for a long time before that. Maybe watch the Hashtag United video that was posted which may give an insight as to why it wasn't restocked! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 hours ago, petehinton said: very weak and pathetic statement/‘explanation’, that, from whoever gave it Like it was written by a pissed off child (Jon?) Also "We are aware of an issue around the collar sizing on a small batch of 2023/24 home shirts," City added. "In some instances the collar opening was too large. Should you feel you have bought an affected shirt please come into the Ashton Gate Store and our retail staff will be able to confirm if your shirt is affected and offer a replacement." They were still flogging shit with this collar last week. Im assuming they knew about it and sold it anyway. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 2, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, BCFCAL said: There was about 20 clubs in the UK that were using Hummel and therefore being distributed by Elite Sports, I'm pretty sure that City were the only ones to change kit mid-season. Old Hummel UK Bankrupt: Bristol City Switch Kit Makers During Season & Release 23-24 Home Kit - Footy Headlines 1 hour ago, Bristol Rob said: Can't see any reference to Bristol City on the O'Neills website, I'm sure they had a story on there last season about becoming our new kit suppliers. Probably just missed it. I can't find anything on their website Sports apparel, international sportswear and teamwear | O’Neills (oneills.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 39 minutes ago, BasSavage88 said: Like it was written by a pissed off child (Jon?) Also "We are aware of an issue around the collar sizing on a small batch of 2023/24 home shirts," City added. "In some instances the collar opening was too large. Should you feel you have bought an affected shirt please come into the Ashton Gate Store and our retail staff will be able to confirm if your shirt is affected and offer a replacement." They were still flogging shit with this collar last week. Im assuming they knew about it and sold it anyway. Yes they were as late as Friday afternoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 hours ago, glynriley said: You have a lot more faith in him than I do, that he won't just shrug his shoulders and say "who gives a **** what they think,I'm the boss" I don’t have any faith in him tbh. Hopefully he’s had his wings clipped . No pun intended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 29 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said: Yes they were as late as Friday afternoon *******. I cant believe they employ people to write utter shite like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 hours ago, steviestevieneville said: Agree. It’s not a proper explanation at all. The positive I take from it is the club , especially JL now understands not to keep buggering about with the badge & how much people dislike splat. You give him far too much credit, he's a typical rich kid with limited intelligence and skills that luckily was born into a rich family. It will fall on deaf ears 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42104RED Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) After last year's shambololic experience with replica kits, why has the club allowed this to happen again? Did the club not get any guarantees from the supplier? If not, why not? Can BCFC sue ONeil's for breach of contract? Edited August 2, 2023 by 42104RED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barno73 Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 Just came across this offering from Salford City- Bit of charity Bit of pop culture Easy on the eye…… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollywhyte Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 46 minutes ago, 42104RED said: After last year's shambololic experience with replica kits, why has the club allowed this to happen again? Did the club not get any guarantees from the supplier? If not, why not? Can BCFC sue ONeil's for breach of contract? Could be our fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 Wow. Popped into shop today. Barely any stock! Will be embarrassing on saturday with everyone visiting to purchase stuff. Couldnt buy a full kit for my little’un at all of any type ( age 9 ). If they had shirts, then no shorts or socks. Or no shirts but socks and shorts. Absolute disgrace of a commercial operation to not have kit available to their fans. Whoever is in charge must ( or should be ) feeling awful. A massive own goal here by the club at a prime time for purchasing what with half term and a new season upon us. Wont be going near the store for a while now so theyve lost a bigger spend from me because of this. Im sure im one of many many more that will do the same now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, nickolas said: Wow. Popped into shop today. Barely any stock! Will be embarrassing on saturday with everyone visiting to purchase stuff. Couldnt buy a full kit for my little’un at all of any type ( age 9 ). If they had shirts, then no shorts or socks. Or no shirts but socks and shorts. Absolute disgrace of a commercial operation to not have kit available to their fans. Whoever is in charge must ( or should be ) feeling awful. A massive own goal here by the club at a prime time for purchasing what with half term and a new season upon us. Wont be going near the store for a while now so theyve lost a bigger spend from me because of this. Im sure im one of many many more that will do the same now. Going like hot cakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agard Days Night Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 21 hours ago, MarcusX said: This has passed with no reply or reaction… Anyone gonna ask, source? Or a wind up Watch this space… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 53 minutes ago, David Brent said: Going like hot cakes Doubtfull! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, barno73 said: Just came across this offering from Salford City- Bit of charity Bit of pop culture Easy on the eye…… Oh I like that…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, barno73 said: Just came across this offering from Salford City- Bit of charity Bit of pop culture Easy on the eye…… Here’s their home kit. A template from Adidas but a really smart, clean shirt. Personally I’d prefer us to have something like this. Oh and Adidas products £10 cheaper than O’Neils? Not so sure about Bez and Shaun playing up top together though!! Edited August 2, 2023 by Mendip City 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, nickolas said: Wow. Popped into shop today. Barely any stock! Will be embarrassing on saturday with everyone visiting to purchase stuff. Couldnt buy a full kit for my little’un at all of any type ( age 9 ). If they had shirts, then no shorts or socks. Or no shirts but socks and shorts. Absolute disgrace of a commercial operation to not have kit available to their fans. Whoever is in charge must ( or should be ) feeling awful. A massive own goal here by the club at a prime time for purchasing what with half term and a new season upon us. Wont be going near the store for a while now so theyve lost a bigger spend from me because of this. Im sure im one of many many more that will do the same now. Who ever is in charge should be sacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 2, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 hours ago, barno73 said: Just came across this offering from Salford City- Bit of charity Bit of pop culture Easy on the eye…… Obviously all about personal choice but it looks horrific to me 2 hours ago, nickolas said: Wow. Popped into shop today. Barely any stock! Will be embarrassing on saturday with everyone visiting to purchase stuff. Couldnt buy a full kit for my little’un at all of any type ( age 9 ). If they had shirts, then no shorts or socks. Or no shirts but socks and shorts. Absolute disgrace of a commercial operation to not have kit available to their fans. Whoever is in charge must ( or should be ) feeling awful. A massive own goal here by the club at a prime time for purchasing what with half term and a new season upon us. Wont be going near the store for a while now so theyve lost a bigger spend from me because of this. Im sure im one of many many more that will do the same now. Let's hope as a business wanting to make money they have cleared space to fill the shelves in time for Saturday 56 minutes ago, Agard Days Night said: Watch this space… Good luck with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agard Days Night Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 56 minutes ago, phantom said: Good luck with that Luck? Where we’re going we don’t need luck. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, phantom said: Obviously all about personal choice but it looks horrific to me Let's hope as a business wanting to make money they have cleared space to fill the shelves in time for Saturday Good luck with that Asked the chap there. Said blimey its empty, saturday is gunna be fun. Any new deliveries? He said ‘dont think so’. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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