Numero Uno Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Has anything been announced about an away kit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Has anything been announced about an away kit? Won’t be here till next month. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 13, 2023 Admin Share Posted August 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Has anything been announced about an away kit? Yes Released end of August early September 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Sodbury Red Evs Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) I have bought every shirt (home, away and third) no matter how amazing, good, bad or truly shocking for as long as I can remember but this year will not buy any of them this season out of protest not that the club will care. My gripe is several fold but mainly factors around the feeling of being had over. Last season year I bought all 3 shirts at total cost of over £250 (adult, fully printed with badges) with removal of 10% season ticket discount for some crappy points scheme. Kits then only worn for matches for around half a season before new kit introduced (of questionable quality) due to poor mismanagement of player and fan stock in turn making purchased shirts redundant. Then new season starts still no season ticket discount (same crappy points scheme) and clearly buying poor quality gear from a cheap manufacturer no doubt with bigger margins for club. So for first time in 40 years of going to games (30 years as a season ticket holder) I will not wear an shirt. This may seam nothing to most but if club manage to f#ck someone like me off they are doing a really bad job!!! Edited August 14, 2023 by Evs 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStand Sandwich Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 On 09/08/2023 at 11:38, SydneyCity said: We’ve won a title early doors! Take a bow @JonLansdown ! At last something you’ve won! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStand Sandwich Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 10 hours ago, Evs said: I have bought every shirt (home, away and third) no matter how amazing, good, bad or truly shocking for as long as I can remember but this year will not buy any of them this season out of protest not that the club will care. My gripe is several fold but mainly factors around the feeling of being had over. Last season year I bought all 3 shirts at total cost of over £250 (adult, fully printed with badges) with removal of 10% season ticket discount for some crappy points scheme. Kits then only worn for matches for around half a season before new kit introduced (of questionable quality) due to poor mismanagement of player and fan stock in turn making purchased shirts redundant. Then new season starts still no season ticket discount (same crappy points scheme) and clearly buying buying poor quality gear from a cheap manufacturer no doubt with bigger margins for club. So for first time in 40 years of going to games (30 years as a season ticket holder) I will not wear an shirt. This may seam nothing to most but if club manage to f#ck someone like me off they are doing a really bad job!!! Utterly agree with this. Massively important to some fans and the club (JL) had got it so wrong… interesting that he’s gone totally AWOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 On 10/08/2023 at 11:21, RedM said: Just for arguements sake, say we did. Totally hypothetical question but what would the fans reaction be if we told O'Neills thanks but no thanks and struck a deal with another provider. Would fans be outraged that they have purchased kit only worn for a few months (granted home kit was a few months of last season too) only for it to be now replaced. Or would there be relief all round that a new company has be brought in and we could have potentially 3 really decent kits. All totally pie in the sky thinking but I think the club has made such a momentous error with O'Neills that it cannot be financially viable. No money if people hate the product. At this point we're locked in for this season but having seen O'Neills so far I honestly think the club should be looking for a new supplier for next season if they can get out of this contract. The fans don't like it, the third kit has been mocked endlessly, not only by our own fans but other teams fans rating it the worst kit in the Championship etc... it's just not something you save, the reputation is tarnished and even if they had a great set of clothes and kits next season I still feel like many fans wouldn't want it due to their start with us. Hummell got one thing right with us, they started on a good foot, they had a few questionable kits but they were never downright hated and then they ended on their weakest design with the "Arsenal" kit but just look at some of the Hummel Kits we had: I honestly think they are some of the best kits we had in a very long time and would argue that even the Bristol Sports could fall into that category too, O'Neills have delivered an "ok" home shirt but it has manufacturing issues with the collar, a third kit that's been voted by a lot of fans as the worst kit in the championship and an away kit that they couldn't get out on time because the fans rebelled against it before it even got released... like how bad a start can you get when you can only deliver 2 of the three shirts and the one is hated? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 On 10/08/2023 at 11:21, RedM said: Just for arguements sake, say we did. Totally hypothetical question but what would the fans reaction be if we told O'Neills thanks but no thanks and struck a deal with another provider. Would fans be outraged that they have purchased kit only worn for a few months (granted home kit was a few months of last season too) only for it to be now replaced. Or would there be relief all round that a new company has be brought in and we could have potentially 3 really decent kits. All totally pie in the sky thinking but I think the club has made such a momentous error with O'Neills that it cannot be financially viable. No money if people hate the product. nip it in the bud, I'd say. Get a new supplier ready for next season. Plus, get someone who knows design/football/the club to advise… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 17 minutes ago, Spike said: At this point we're locked in for this season but having seen O'Neills so far I honestly think the club should be looking for a new supplier for next season if they can get out of this contract. The fans don't like it, the third kit has been mocked endlessly, not only by our own fans but other teams fans rating it the worst kit in the Championship etc... it's just not something you save, the reputation is tarnished and even if they had a great set of clothes and kits next season I still feel like many fans wouldn't want it due to their start with us. Hummell got one thing right with us, they started on a good foot, they had a few questionable kits but they were never downright hated and then they ended on their weakest design with the "Arsenal" kit but just look at some of the Hummel Kits we had: I honestly think they are some of the best kits we had in a very long time and would argue that even the Bristol Sports could fall into that category too, O'Neills have delivered an "ok" home shirt but it has manufacturing issues with the collar, a third kit that's been voted by a lot of fans as the worst kit in the championship and an away kit that they couldn't get out on time because the fans rebelled against it before it even got released... like how bad a start can you get when you can only deliver 2 of the three shirts and the one is hated? That keepers kit looks like it was custom made for someone with spinal curvature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said: nip it in the bud, I'd say. Get a new supplier ready for next season. Plus, get someone who knows design/football/the club to advise… To my mind it's very easy to get a football shirt right. A few hours trawling OTIB and social media would be enough for anyone with half a brain to determine a consensus opinion on what supporters like and what they don't. Indeed, if the club had polled a few fans they would quickly have determined that the splat robin is almost universally hated and wouldn't translate to healthy sales or good PR for the club. None of this is hard or expensive to do - and yet the club just seem to do their own thing, completely at odds with fan culture and what people actually want to buy. It's so amateur, and almost beyond belief. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Spike said: At this point we're locked in for this season but having seen O'Neills so far I honestly think the club should be looking for a new supplier for next season if they can get out of this contract. The fans don't like it, the third kit has been mocked endlessly, not only by our own fans but other teams fans rating it the worst kit in the Championship etc... it's just not something you save, the reputation is tarnished and even if they had a great set of clothes and kits next season I still feel like many fans wouldn't want it due to their start with us. Hummell got one thing right with us, they started on a good foot, they had a few questionable kits but they were never downright hated and then they ended on their weakest design with the "Arsenal" kit but just look at some of the Hummel Kits we had: I honestly think they are some of the best kits we had in a very long time and would argue that even the Bristol Sports could fall into that category too, O'Neills have delivered an "ok" home shirt but it has manufacturing issues with the collar, a third kit that's been voted by a lot of fans as the worst kit in the championship and an away kit that they couldn't get out on time because the fans rebelled against it before it even got released... like how bad a start can you get when you can only deliver 2 of the three shirts and the one is hated? It's funny, I wasn't originally a fan of the "Arsenal" home shirt, but I've grown to really like it - possibly because it compares so favourably with the crap we've seen since. I bought one recently direct from Hummel - despite the apparent supply issues for the squad - and it's excellent quality and a great fit. I'll be wearing it this season as a protest against the Oneil tat as much as anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 24 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: To my mind it's very easy to get a football shirt right. A few hours trawling OTIB and social media would be enough for anyone with half a brain to determine a consensus opinion on what supporters like and what they don't. Indeed, if the club had polled a few fans they would quickly have determined that the splat robin is almost universally hated and wouldn't translate to healthy sales or good PR for the club. None of this is hard or expensive to do - and yet the club just seem to do their own thing, completely at odds with fan culture and what people actually want to buy. It's so amateur, and almost beyond belief. It also demonstrates how easy it is to get wrong. It's not just the fans' opinion on the bird logo that is the issue but the actual design details of the shirt and the size of placement of logos etc. I don't know who made those decisions, if it was just someone at O'Neills working up the design on screen and sending a PDF to the club for approval…and someone saying "yeah, that'll do". These things take a lot more work and time. That's why a lot of the companies produce templates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 33 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: It's funny, I wasn't originally a fan of the "Arsenal" home shirt, but I've grown to really like it - possibly because it compares so favourably with the crap we've seen since. I bought one recently direct from Hummel - despite the apparent supply issues for the squad - and it's excellent quality and a great fit. I'll be wearing it this season as a protest against the Oneil tat as much as anything. I loved the "Arsenal" shirt, I know some will question identify or whatever but it was something different. Bit of a collectors item in the future I reckon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colemanballs Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 1 hour ago, MarcusX said: I loved the "Arsenal" shirt, I know some will question identify or whatever but it was something different. Bit of a collectors item in the future I reckon Personally, I absolutely loathed it. The fact that even our own fans refer to it as the "Arsenal" shirt should explain why. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 10 hours ago, SouthStand Sandwich said: Utterly agree with this. Massively important to some fans and the club (JL) had got it so wrong… interesting that he’s gone totally AWOL It's not really. He's a coward who has a job because his dad owns the company, of course someone promoted way way way beyond their ability hides away when it gets tough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 8 hours ago, MarcusX said: I loved the "Arsenal" shirt, I know some will question identify or whatever but it was something different. Bit of a collectors item in the future I reckon Agree. It’s not exactly popping up on eBay in great numbers, suggests people hanging onto it. On the subject of vintage shirts, whoever it was who drove the price up of the 93/94 shirt on eBay… boo to you. Price of vintage city shirts is getting ludicrous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 On 14/08/2023 at 10:00, Bristol Rob said: That keepers kit looks like it was custom made for someone with spinal curvature. That keepers kit won awards for being the most liked kit at the time it was released and was deemed the best kit in the Championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 All the talk of everyone hating the kit etc but when I went to the Oxford game I was surprised how many people were wearing the new kits. Ultimately if the numbers don't add up then I'm sure we will have a get out of the deal, but if people keep buying it then we will stay put im sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider hoss rules Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 29 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: All the talk of everyone hating the kit etc but when I went to the Oxford game I was surprised how many people were wearing the new kits. Ultimately if the numbers don't add up then I'm sure we will have a get out of the deal, but if people keep buying it then we will stay put im sure I was just going to post a similar observation, when watching the “limbs” video from the Millwall game, there are loads of the shirts being worn in the crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 On 14/08/2023 at 09:29, SouthStand Sandwich said: Utterly agree with this. Massively important to some fans and the club (JL) had got it so wrong… interesting that he’s gone totally AWOL Yep because he's a chip off the old block and simply cannot deal with criticism. His performance at a fans Q&A at The Gate years ago now, probably the SOD era, is still fresh in the mind - the slightest hint of criticism in a question wasn't met with a measured, logical response but instead one that was exasperated and aggressive, basically saying "shut up and leave it to us". Since then, he's been promoted! And his daddy doubled down by telling us "it's my club". Thanks for the bricks and mortar. Genuinely, thanks. But it's time for fresh ideas. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Tinmans Love Child said: All the talk of everyone hating the kit etc but when I went to the Oxford game I was surprised how many people were wearing the new kits. Ultimately if the numbers don't add up then I'm sure we will have a get out of the deal, but if people keep buying it then we will stay put im sure 2 hours ago, cider hoss rules said: I was just going to post a similar observation, when watching the “limbs” video from the Millwall game, there are loads of the shirts being worn in the crowd. Right, may get absolute pelters for this, but after spending the past week in Bristol and going to the Oxford game with a family member that works at the club, this seasons shirts, are actually selling pretty well. He would know, and I have absolutely no reason to not believe him. Say what you want, but apparently the numbers are pretty good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 On 14/08/2023 at 13:04, MarcusX said: I loved the "Arsenal" shirt, I know some will question identify or whatever but it was something different. Bit of a collectors item in the future I reckon I don't understand the Arsenal comparisons, it's a reproduction of a classic City shirt! Yes it has white sleeves but we've copied our own shirt not another club's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardy Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 This ‘Splat’ Robin (aka Clip Art) nonsense has gone way too far. Absolute Fashion & PR disaster. Whoever is at the heart of this should no longer be at the club and if it is the ‘Chairman’ then he should have walked by now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStand Sandwich Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 That’s one of the biggest piss takes I have witnessed at the city store…. You’d get a lovely Sergio tachini/ Lacoste for less… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Ghost Rider said: £70.95 (including delivery) for a plain grey hoodie with a splat Robin. Are you taking the piss? Doesn't even look city and at £65 they can forget it. Shocking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 4 hours ago, Ghost Rider said: £70.95 (including delivery) for a plain grey hoodie with a splat Robin. Are you taking the piss? I see that any remaining sense of shame at the club has now completely gone. Don't let them dress it up on social media with their fan cams and their chatty engagement, the contempt for supporters from those at the heart of the club is so obvious. Buying a substandard product at an inflated price is all you are to them. Also, trading standards should be involved every time they sell an item described as "Bristol City" with splat on it. Since when did it become okay to pass off this completely random nonsense as providing something representing the club? What next, buy a job lot of 99p white t-shirts down the market and sell them for £40 each as "Bristol City White T-shirts" - they may as well, providing actual club branding doesn't seem to be necessary any more. This is a race to the bottom. And not one of the people who claim to be connected or have a voice at the club have been able to do anything about it. 17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Ghost Rider said: £70.95 (including delivery) for a plain grey hoodie with a splat Robin. Are you taking the piss? The 40 quid kids joggers are worse And whatever the **** the kids red hoodie is with the giant wonky badge Edited August 22, 2023 by BasSavage88 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 As mentioned many times, market forces will dictate what happens next, if people still buy the stuff then the club will think they have made the right choice. Ive seen plenty of people wearing the kit and accessories already so they either don't care what it looks like or genuinely like it. I agree that hoody looks completely generic and void of any quality, but I'm not stupid enough to buy it! it reminds me of stuff you get personalised online for stag do's or class of 23 leavers hoodies! The difference between that one and the very good quality grey Hummel hoodie is poles apart! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 8 hours ago, SouthStand Sandwich said: That’s one of the biggest piss takes I have witnessed at the city store…. You’d get a lovely Sergio tachini/ Lacoste for less… Ours is more like Sergio Georgini 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 2 hours ago, BasSavage88 said: The 40 quid kids joggers are worse And whatever the **** the kids red hoodie is with the giant wonky badge Oh my word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Ghost Rider said: £70.95 (including delivery) for a plain grey hoodie with a splat Robin. Are you taking the piss? Disgusting, the club won’t be getting a penny off me this season. Edited August 22, 2023 by Bris Red 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 3 hours ago, BasSavage88 said: The 40 quid kids joggers are worse And whatever the **** the kids red hoodie is with the giant wonky badge Looks like something from primark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, sticks 1969 said: Looks like something from primark Was thinking QS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 10 hours ago, Ghost Rider said: £70.95 (including delivery) for a plain grey hoodie with a splat Robin. Are you taking the piss? Anyone who buys that at the price needs to give there head a wobble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 10 hours ago, Ghost Rider said: £70.95 (including delivery) for a plain grey hoodie with a splat Robin. Are you taking the piss? Direct comparison with O'Neils own. Basically paying £30 for a City badge. They really have got this wrong. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Direct comparison with O'Neils own. Basically paying £30 for a City badge. They really have got this wrong. And ...it's not even our actual badge. £30 mark up for a Bristol City registered trade mark that's copied from Getty images. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 At least the strategy is completely clear - maximise profit irrespective of quality. Strike a deal with a low-end manufacturer and sell at an absurd price to a captive market (prices higher than similar clubs using better brands/quality merchandise). Hopefully there will be a big enough downturn in sales to hit the club and force a re-think for next season. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, 1960maaan said: Direct comparison with O'Neils own. Basically paying £30 for a City badge. They really have got this wrong. It’s worse, it’s £40 not £30 for the awful splat logo….. plus postage! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stortfordred Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 And not a splatted Liver bird in sight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 32 minutes ago, Mendip City said: At least the strategy is completely clear - maximise profit irrespective of quality. There is no defence for charging so much for those things, they have completely lost sight of the fans. Get reasonable impulse buys in the shop, cheaper decent quality shirts and odds n ends that the casual shopper will grab. 36 minutes ago, Mendip City said: Strike a deal with a low-end manufacturer and sell at an absurd price to a captive market (prices higher than similar clubs using better brands/quality merchandise). I have to defend the Club with this, and I'm repeating myself here. We were without stock, without a supplier and they needed a company to turn around in 3 months, something that would normally take 18. It is possible O'Neils were the only one that could do it. If we couldn't supply shirts for this season fans would be going mad, none of the "big" brands would/could have done it, we were in a difficult position and we will never know if there were other options. 41 minutes ago, Mendip City said: Hopefully there will be a big enough downturn in sales to hit the club and force a re-think for next season. This could be interesting. I have seen plenty of the 3rd kit so not everyone hates it , but.. The kits are usually a similar price and they are the kits we watch the team in, so they hold a special place with fans. The training/leisure ranges are different, if they are really good and good quality , they will sell. If they are reasonable quality and reasonable price they will sell. If they are massively over priced for half assed designs ? We will see. We may be contracted for a couple of years, but if they don't sell the other stuff there has to be a rethink. The sales could come early this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 I see that O'Neils supply Sutton Utd, so I had a look at their pricing. I actually like their shirts, 3rd kit looks good and is £37, much more like it IMO. They don't do hoodies, but they do a crested coat which has a stitched crest and that comes at about the same price as out hoody . I don't see the club shop doing much trade on leisurewear this year TBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 It's almost as if they have decided the only people buying stuff will be Season Ticket holders who get a discount, so they have added the discount to the asking price so it's a cost neutral exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 The other aspect to this people haven’t mentioned - we’re in a cost of living crisis. Prices like this are bad enough at the best of times, but this shows absolutely no regard for the tough financial times the club’s supporters are enduring - and is in no way justified by inflation. A decent club with supporters at its heart would price things reasonably. Sadly, City seem to be moving further and further away from that description. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: There is no defence for charging so much for those things, they have completely lost sight of the fans. Get reasonable impulse buys in the shop, cheaper decent quality shirts and odds n ends that the casual shopper will grab. I have to defend the Club with this, and I'm repeating myself here. We were without stock, without a supplier and they needed a company to turn around in 3 months, something that would normally take 18. It is possible O'Neils were the only one that could do it. If we couldn't supply shirts for this season fans would be going mad, none of the "big" brands would/could have done it, we were in a difficult position and we will never know if there were other options. This could be interesting. I have seen plenty of the 3rd kit so not everyone hates it , but.. The kits are usually a similar price and they are the kits we watch the team in, so they hold a special place with fans. The training/leisure ranges are different, if they are really good and good quality , they will sell. If they are reasonable quality and reasonable price they will sell. If they are massively over priced for half assed designs ? We will see. We may be contracted for a couple of years, but if they don't sell the other stuff there has to be a rethink. The sales could come early this season. Good point. It would be interesting to know the split between leisure/training wear and shirts. It seem more people are buying training/leisure than ever before. Also take your point about short timescales to replace Hummel but my point was more about consumer pricing… we’ve landed with a small brand at higher than normal prices for customers (well supporters actually). The club is making significant margin more from its supporters than other similar clubs (as shown above). That’s just exploiting a captive market. Man United/Adidas £60 Bristol City/O’Neils £65…. It doesn’t sit right with me, global brand Man Utd who never knowingly give a toss about their fans charging less than City…. https://store.manutd.com/en/manchester-united-adidas-dna-hoodie-black/p-1247691950446863+z-977-2346089174?_ref=p-FPP:m-TS:pi-PDP_RECOMMENDATIONS_1:i-r0c0:po-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mendip City said: Good point. It would be interesting to know the split between leisure/training wear and shirts. It seem more people are buying training/leisure than ever before. Also take your point about short timescales to replace Hummel but my point was more about consumer pricing… we’ve landed with a small brand at higher than normal prices for customers (well supporters actually). The club is making significant margin more from its supporters than other similar clubs (as shown above). That’s just exploiting a captive market. Man United/Adidas £60 Bristol City/O’Neils £65…. It doesn’t sit right with me, global brand Man Utd who never knowingly give a toss about their fans charging less than City…. https://store.manutd.com/en/manchester-united-adidas-dna-hoodie-black/p-1247691950446863+z-977-2346089174?_ref=p-FPP:m-TS:pi-PDP_RECOMMENDATIONS_1:i-r0c0:po-0 IMO we have always been on the dear side for the Club shop, at least the last few years. I Remember reading that Bristol Sport would be doing everything in house, but the fans never got the benefit in prices . That Man U top (horrible and basic though it is) has a stitched in logo , at least they went the extra mile for a touch of quality. Sewing a badge on and charging almost double is a joke. One thing , I seem to remember there were Clubs that were with Hummel the same time as us, and charged less for similar goods. It's short sighted IMO. If you do decent stuff at reasonable prices, I think you would sell more to make up any profit lost per item. Not only that, you're talking about fans , they are likely to buy more than one. I got one of the Hummel Tee shirts, I think it was about £30. I don't buy many things from the shop (I wont go on about choice and stock) , but I liked the shirt and at the price I was ok with it. Now I really like the "City" Tees, but at £40 there is no chance, I got the version from OTIB . The O'Neils one looks decent quality, but at almost quarter of the price it was a difficult decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) What is a real shame with the pricing especially is that they are treating fans like consumers, we should, at our heart, be a football club, with fans at the centre, and to fleece them with tat shows where our moral compass at the club currently sits. They may argue that if you want a successful team then you need to get the money in to pay players wages, but that is BS when you have a billionaire owner who bails the club out to the tune of millions every year, so getting a relatively low sum from fans is a drop in the ocean. How many shirts do we sell? Even if for ease of maths you went with 10,000 shirt sales per year, if SL said I will personally take £10 off the shirt price to help fans, that's still only £100,000 out of his pocket, compared to the multi millions he spunks up the wall on players and wages and everything else. The fans would feel valued, SL has made the money back by lunch time in interest, everyone is happy. The fish rots from the head! Edited August 22, 2023 by Tinmans Love Child 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 2 hours ago, 1960maaan said: IMO we have always been on the dear side for the Club shop, at least the last few years. I Remember reading that Bristol Sport would be doing everything in house, but the fans never got the benefit in prices . That Man U top (horrible and basic though it is) has a stitched in logo , at least they went the extra mile for a touch of quality. Sewing a badge on and charging almost double is a joke. One thing , I seem to remember there were Clubs that were with Hummel the same time as us, and charged less for similar goods. It's short sighted IMO. If you do decent stuff at reasonable prices, I think you would sell more to make up any profit lost per item. Not only that, you're talking about fans , they are likely to buy more than one. I got one of the Hummel Tee shirts, I think it was about £30. I don't buy many things from the shop (I wont go on about choice and stock) , but I liked the shirt and at the price I was ok with it. Now I really like the "City" Tees, but at £40 there is no chance, I got the version from OTIB . The O'Neils one looks decent quality, but at almost quarter of the price it was a difficult decision. Yeah I like that City logo and the one you’ve got is a sensible price. it’s a bit of a seventies look (the logo). If we’d just gone with that and not the splat thing, I think there would have been far less grumbling. I’d actually not mind that logo on a change shirt - maybe go for a bit of a retro style shirt and at least make a theme of it. I also remember that BS would be able to produce at fairer prices…. Turned out to be BS!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephjnr Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 3 hours ago, stortfordred said: And not a splatted Liver bird in sight. Go back to January 1994 for the splatted Liver Bird. (not too far off the source image's filming I think :D) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 5 hours ago, 1960maaan said: I see that O'Neils supply Sutton Utd, so I had a look at their pricing. I actually like their shirts, 3rd kit looks good and is £37, much more like it IMO. They don't do hoodies, but they do a crested coat which has a stitched crest and that comes at about the same price as out hoody . I don't see the club shop doing much trade on leisurewear this year TBH. From £37,so that may be kids sizes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 6 hours ago, Bristol Rob said: It's almost as if they have decided the only people buying stuff will be Season Ticket holders who get a discount, so they have added the discount to the asking price so it's a cost neutral exercise. We don't get a discount in the shop anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 minute ago, elhombrecito said: We don't get a discount in the shop anymore. Probably because I never used it! My fault! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Slacker said: From £37,so that may be kids sizes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 39 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: And you doubt that Sutton have a sponsor who were attracted to a deal where 1000s of kids shirts would be given away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 51 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Guess not then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 1 hour ago, 1960maaan said: Rather like that Sutton home kit. We know that the design team already have a souvenir box of ‘Man City’ crayons. Wonder if we left them with that shirt template, a few white crayons and maybe a single black one. Give them instructions for a white background, black collar and cuff edging with the sky blue horizontal stripes. Could be half decent as an away kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 51 minutes ago, Slacker said: Guess not then! I thought it said adults under the first photo, must have imagined it. 16 minutes ago, RedRock said: Rather like that Sutton home kit. We know that the design team already have a souvenir box of ‘Man City’ crayons. Wonder if we left them with that shirt template, a few white crayons and maybe a single black one. Give them instructions for a white background, black collar and cuff edging with the sky blue horizontal stripes. Could be half decent as an away kit. Wouldn't be the worst design we've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacki Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Just to add to this, our academy sides have been playing for a month now and still don’t have any home kit to wear. They’re playing in either that horror show of a third kit or the light blue training shirts at the moment. No idea when the home kits will be ready but there are no sign of them yet. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 You'd think the club would rather see kids walking around Bristol with City shirts and training/leisure wear on rather than United, Liverpool, Chelsea etc. If we are pricing ourselves over and above those teams then we're fighting a losing battle. It's a bit of a joke though. I'd expect those prices for a Nike Adidas hoody but (with respect) an Irish brand better known for Gaelic football that very few people in England have even heard of? I'm not pointing the finger at them mind, someone at the club sets the prices. We'll have a price we buy for and a price we sell for. The commercial side of the club is an absolute embarrassment and shows what they think of the supporters to be honest. Cash cows to be milked at every opportunity. The prices are going up and the quality is going down, and I apply that to kit, merchandise, training wear, food, let's hope we aren't adding team to that this season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Well for those that have said we should have stuck it out with Hummel ..... From their OS. "The delivery to the club’s fulfilment partner contained a multitude of errors which have required extra time for the warehouse team to process before dispatch can begin. The club apologises for the delay, which is out of its control, and the team are working round the clock to correct the errors and begin fulfilment as soon as possible." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Was in shop again today, all I could see was the splat and my god the kids kits look like internet knock offs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 24 minutes ago, Club and Country said: Was in shop again today, all I could see was the splat and my god the kids kits look like internet knock offs They look awful don't they. Seeing as they have no pink kits I got one from china. 12 quid and delivered in 2 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 hours ago, 1960maaan said: Well for those that have said we should have stuck it out with Hummel ..... From their OS. "The delivery to the club’s fulfilment partner contained a multitude of errors which have required extra time for the warehouse team to process before dispatch can begin. The club apologises for the delay, which is out of its control, and the team are working round the clock to correct the errors and begin fulfilment as soon as possible." I’d rather wait for a nicely designed kit, well made and actually displaying our clubs official badge! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Henry said: I’d rather wait for a nicely designed kit, well made and actually displaying our clubs official badge! That wait could have been from last December. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full nelson Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 Jesus christ!! Popped into the club shop today and what an embarrassing club shop we have. Low to zero stock and no etas on products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Full nelson said: Jesus christ!! Popped into the club shop today and what an embarrassing club shop we have. Low to zero stock and no etas on products. Did he buy anything? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 We still doing hoody prices? £45 for Chelsea. I know economies of scale probably apply here, but still….. https://www.chelseamegastore.com/en/chelsea-core-overhead-hoodie-navy-mens/p-2336690927678264+z-969-2722462490?_ref=p-FPP:m-CAV:pi-PDP_RECOMMENDATIONS_2:i-r0c0:po-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Full nelson said: Jesus christ!! Popped into the club shop today and what an embarrassing club shop we have. Low to zero stock and no etas on products. Buy on dhgate. Get what you want and delivered in 2 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, BasSavage88 said: Buy on dhgate. Get what you want and delivered in 2 weeks Perhaps that’s where the club should order them from to get adequate stock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashton Yate Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 2 hours ago, BasSavage88 said: Buy on dhgate. Get what you want and delivered in 2 weeks What are those dhgate ones like? I mean I'm not expecting exceptional quality, but are they decent enough for the price? Also, have had a look on site and most pictures show shirt without manufacturer badge on chest. Do they actually arrive as shown, or do they have the manufacturer on too? Wouldn't want to buy it without, as would definitely look like a cheap knock off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ashton Yate said: What are those dhgate ones like? I mean I'm not expecting exceptional quality, but are they decent enough for the price? Also, have had a look on site and most pictures show shirt without manufacturer badge on chest. Do they actually arrive as shown, or do they have the manufacturer on too? Wouldn't want to buy it without, as would definitely look like a cheap knock off. It is a cheap knock off. Although it might be better than the real thing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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