frenchred Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 Went to BAWA last night for "An Evening with Gazza". Thought it was really sad to see first hand what he has become. Obviously well documented his problems and demons but to see him like he was last night was really eye opening and sad So obvious, so many still making money out of him and pimping him around the country He looked and sounded to me as a man who desperately needs professional help Sort of wished after that I hadn't gone at all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 I think he’s had a lot of professional help hasn’t he? I’m sure he’s talked about that in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted March 24, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 I've seen a picture from last night and I was surprised how ill he looked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 Hes got demons, anybody knows that, and everyday is probably a battle, but he still showed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 Maybe he needs the money, maybe he needs the fame/spotlight. Who knows. All very sad and you can't help but feel he has been taken advantage of for many years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 May I ask how many were there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 To my knowledge there's only one Gazza. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) At some point he has to help himself,let’s not forget for as a unbelievable talent he was he also beat women,the bloke is a loser let’s all be honest Edited March 24, 2023 by joe jordans teeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 4 hours ago, And Its Smith said: I think he’s had a lot of professional help hasn’t he? I’m sure he’s talked about that in the past. Correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted March 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Never to the dark side said: May I ask how many were there? Just over 400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 Did wonder if he had any early antidotes of when he played with our own tin man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 400, that was a nice turn out. Shame I did not know it was on,although I was watching Italy v England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted March 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 49 minutes ago, East Londoner said: Did wonder if he had any early antidotes of when he played with our own tin man There was nothing new at all mate in all honesty, I think I had heard every story in one guise or another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, frenchred said: Went to BAWA last night for "An Evening with Gazza". Thought it was really sad to see first hand what he has become. Obviously well documented his problems and demons but to see him like he was last night was really eye opening and sad So obvious, so many still making money out of him and pimping him around the country He looked and sounded to me as a man who desperately needs professional help Sort of wished after that I hadn't gone at all I'm not sure that the people who are paying to watch him be 'pimped around the country' are in much of a position to decry the fact that he is tbh. Edited March 24, 2023 by Stortz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 When the whole world sees you in a certain way then that is how you are going to naturally present yourself. Gazza is forever trapped within a particular persona with no way out. That he now lives in Bournemouth, exercises and fishes is not what the audience want to hear. They want the happy go lucky football genius and alcohol fuelled japester, so that's what he gives them and that's what seeps into his soul. I'm not being sanctimonious here, if Gazza was doing his show near me I'd go along and laugh at all the anecdotes. But feel a bit guilty afterwards. Al Stewart on an early version of "The Year of the Cat": Where did the inspiration for Year Of The Cat come from? “It started out as a song inspired by seeing Tony Hancock performing in Bournemouth during 1966. I was struck about how depressed he was at the time – this was just before he committed suicide – and the way he told the audience that he wanted to die. Everyone thought it was part of his act and was laughing at him. No-one understood he was serious. I called the song Foot Of The Stage, but my label felt it was too bleak, so refused to release it. https://www.loudersound.com/features/top-of-the-progs-al-stewart-year-of-the-cat 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalRed Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 6 hours ago, frenchred said: Went to BAWA last night for "An Evening with Gazza". Thought it was really sad to see first hand what he has become. Obviously well documented his problems and demons but to see him like he was last night was really eye opening and sad So obvious, so many still making money out of him and pimping him around the country He looked and sounded to me as a man who desperately needs professional help Sort of wished after that I hadn't gone at all But the event organisers would know about his issues, they are just trying to make money out of him, very sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 It's quite surprising he's still slive tbh. Drinking bottles of spirits tends to lead to an early visit to the graveyard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalRed Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 39 minutes ago, frenchred said: There was nothing new at all mate in all honesty, I think I had heard every story in one guise or another I think the organiser also pays the person who asks the questions (especially for Gazza), so likely same old questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, LoyalRed said: But the event organisers would know about his issues, they are just trying to make money out of him, very sad. He’s a grown man and clearly needs money and will earn a couple of grand I should imagine,not bad for a nights work and what he does with the money is down to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: It's quite surprising he's still slive tbh. Drinking bottles of spirits tends to lead to an early visit to the graveyard. Life is a cruel world,people die from cancer everyday while this clown gets sympathy from all and sundry because he played football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalRed Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: He’s a grown man and clearly needs money and will earn a couple of grand I should imagine,not bad for a nights work and what he does with the money is down to him I know the organisers and they are always worried about booking Gazza in case he doesn’t turn up. He also attends the gigs with someone that asks the same questions so everything is pretty much scripted as he knows the questions already, same scenario also for Frank Bruno. I think the poster has already said he wishes he hadn’t gone which is why it is sad. You are right though, it’s a source of income for Gazza but very sad how it’s all turned out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalRed Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Life is a cruel world,people die from cancer everyday while this clown gets sympathy from all and sundry because he played football He was the best England player of my generation. A clown might be a little harsh ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, LoyalRed said: He was the best England player of my generation. A clown might be a little harsh ? For natural talent he may have been but for actually producing it it wasn’t very often so there is a lot of sentimental foggy memories going on Edited March 24, 2023 by joe jordans teeth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 Regardless of what he's done in the past, people still want to hear him. The same can be said of many people in the public eye. Many famous people have brought joy to us...but have acted poorly in other parts of their lives. Many suffer demons. Many have hangers on, making money from their fame. Madonna right now springs to mind. The worst I've seen in recent months is Chris Eubank. Obviously has trauma and problems, especially losing his son. Any agent pushing this needs sacking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Life is a cruel world,people die from cancer everyday while this clown gets sympathy from all and sundry because he played football I think you've missed the mood. The bloke has mental issues, we all know that and sympathise, he's obviously fighting his demons and struggling - and probably will be till his time comes. He doesn't deserve the "clown" remark, he gave millions around the world great pleasure because of his talent and his personality. its just a great shame that its now what it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: I think you've missed the mood. The bloke has mental issues, we all know that and sympathise, he's obviously fighting his demons and struggling - and probably will be till his time comes. He doesn't deserve the "clown" remark, he gave millions around the world great pleasure because of his talent and his personality. its just a great shame that its now what it is. Why doesn’t he deserve the clown remark,didn’t he play the clown while pissing his career up the wall and people lauding him for it Edited March 24, 2023 by joe jordans teeth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 It was a different world though when he was playing. You couldn't imagine the England team going on a major piss-up a week or two before the Euros next year like they did before Euro 96. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, Mr X said: It was a different world though when he was playing. You couldn't imagine the England team going on a major piss-up a week or two before the Euros next year like they did before Euro 96. Darren Anderton just hit the £10 jackpot on that fruiter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairweather Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 hour ago, joe jordans teeth said: Why doesn’t he deserve the clown remark,didn’t he play the clown while pissing his career up the wall and people lauding him for it Because we are starting to understand mental health issues in a different way. bloke was on good money - should have been happy with that…. Nothing is as black and white as that. You cannot expect normal people to deal with the pressures such success brings. I thought it was documented he had mild Tourette’s syndrome which made react under pressure by doing something taboo. Biscuits Biscuits etc. You could tell when he went to Lazio it was over and he was in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 An absolute genius of a player and many fond memories of watching him play for clubs and country . Unfortunately suffers from an illness that is trying to kill him, alcoholism . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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