Major Isewater Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Ghost Rider said: Good old Roy! So that’s who nicked my portable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 2 hours ago, extonsred said: If we kept Alex until Jan / next summer and he added goals to his natural skills what would he be worth then. Sure the coaches will be pushing this side of his game strongly in the run up to this season. Been a bit disappointing in this area so far considering his amazing natural fluency and creativity. I get what you mean but I think there are diminishing returns personally - I don't think they're just buying him because of what he can do now, but because of what he can do in the future. They know he's absolute quality already. I don't know if adding a few goals will really nudge the needle much, and I can't see a Championship player with no PL experience going for £50m+ or whatever any time soon so there is a limit there as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 On a general note, middling or non fire sale needed clubs are not really bowing down to the big boys this summer and selling on the cheap go the bigger or richer clubs on the cheap which is a interesting sign. Bit different in La Liga owing to every player having a buyout clause. West Ham with Rice a key one, Brighton with Caicedo another. Neither Manchester club are finding it easy to get their targets, Gvardiol to Man City and Hojlund to Man United. Both I assume not in FFP or cash flow difficulties. Napoli have put a major price tag on Oshimen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Major Isewater said: So that’s who nicked my portable. They were never called portable phones, they were car phones then mobile phones. You sir have the memory of a goldfish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 3 hours ago, extonsred said: If we kept Alex until Jan / next summer and he added goals to his natural skills what would he be worth then. And if he got a career ending injury ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said: They were never called portable phones, they were car phones then mobile phones. You sir have the memory of a goldfish. Unless you live in somewhere like France where they are called portable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, BigTone said: Unless you live in somewhere like France where they are called portable I was struggling to make a fish pun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 Just now, Lorenzos Only Goal said: I was struggling to make a fish pun Well you scaled the heights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Ghost Rider said: Good old Roy! I though Alex had baulked up in the summer but that's some growth spurt since the days of the Hummel kit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said: They were never called portable phones, they were car phones then mobile phones. You sir have the memory of a goldfish. And you Sir … what were you saying again ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 52 minutes ago, BigTone said: Unless you live in somewhere like France where they are called portable For instance… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 53 minutes ago, BigTone said: Unless you live in somewhere like France where they are called portable That's the French phrase for 'mobile', it means...errrr... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, SecretSam said: That's the French phrase for 'mobile', it means...errrr... So the French called mobile phones "errrr"? How every French. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 Dunno if it's just me but finding some Wolves fans well it's Twitter I guess and amplifies loud voices fairly insufferable. Percy this, replies to Scott's Tweets that, some now claiming they've met the asking price, their kit launch with Scott appearing in it. Almost as if there is an air of entitlement and inevitably about adding Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 Just now, Mr Popodopolous said: Dunno if it's just me but finding some Wolves fans well it's Twitter I guess and amplifies loud voices fairly insufferable. Percy this, replies to Scott's Tweets that, some now claiming they've met the asking price, their kit launch with Scott appearing in it. Almost as if there is an air of entitlement and inevitably about adding Scott. If you take Twitter as a benchmark then pretty much every fanbase in the country, including ours, will come across as juvenile, ignorant and arrogant. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Northern Red said: If you take Twitter as a benchmark then pretty much every fanbase in the country, including ours, will come across as juvenile, ignorant and arrogant. Fair I suppose. Social media does amplify loud voices..it's some anyway. Edited July 21, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, cheese said: So the French called mobile phones "errrr"? How every French. *shrugs shoulders* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Fair I suppose. Social media does amplify loud voices..it's some anyway. To add a little, I do take your point about Twitter @Northern Red but this bit seemed somewhat irritating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: To add a little, I do take your point about Twitter @Northern Red but this bit seemed somewhat irritating. “Down to Wolverhampton“? Geography not a strong point obviously, nor spelling. Edited July 21, 2023 by Rudolf Hucker 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Fox Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 2 hours ago, BigTone said: And if he got a career ending injury ? We would claim on the insurance. That logic also means you always sell, just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Grey Fox said: We would claim on the insurance. That logic also means you always sell, just in case. Not convinced about insurance payouts and football- @Coppello covered it a while ago but surely it would only cover the wages he is due if at all. How do you insure someone with a book value of zero. Being an Academy product via Guernsey will be zero or near as dammit, there's very little to amortise. Of course tbis isn't an argument to sell but can you insure against expected transfer revenue/profit? Edited July 21, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Dunno if it's just me but finding some Wolves fans well it's Twitter I guess and amplifies loud voices fairly insufferable. Percy this, replies to Scott's Tweets that, some now claiming they've met the asking price, their kit launch with Scott appearing in it. Almost as if there is an air of entitlement and inevitably about adding Scott. ....but is that £25m worth of entitlement and inevitability? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 30 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: “Down to Wolverhampton“? Geography not a strong point obviously, nor spelling. Bristol is a top place to live. So by that reckoning it's fair to say that you would go down to Wolverhampton. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 50 minutes ago, Grey Fox said: We would claim on the insurance. That logic also means you always sell, just in case. The the insurance cover is for how much ? Todays market price or tomorrows potential ? Or most likely just a set figure pre agreed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 hour ago, BigTone said: The the insurance cover is for how much ? Todays market price or tomorrows potential ? Or most likely just a set figure pre agreed. With ridiculous premiums. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Fox Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 hour ago, BigTone said: The the insurance cover is for how much ? Todays market price or tomorrows potential ? Or most likely just a set figure pre agreed. Typically a percentage of an agreed value, so no not for the full potential, but a method of mitigating risk. My point however, is if you use the “ he might” argument, you always sell every talented player at the first opportunity, in case “he might”. In my opinion you will not win anything unless you take some risk, in this case that Alex Scott as a City player could help us in a promotion push, and if successful the financial rewards will dwarf the proceeds of selling him now. The accountants on here say we don’t have to sell this year, so why not have some ambition and keep Alex for this coming season and go for it, we may even match the mighty Luton Town 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, Grey Fox said: Typically a percentage of an agreed value, so no not for the full potential, but a method of mitigating risk. My point however, is if you use the “ he might” argument, you always sell every talented player at the first opportunity, in case “he might”. In my opinion you will not win anything unless you take some risk, in this case that Alex Scott as a City player could help us in a promotion push, and if successful the financial rewards will dwarf the proceeds of selling him now. The accountants on here say we don’t have to sell this year, so why not have some ambition and keep Alex for this coming season and go for it, we may even match the mighty Luton Town Because for the billionanth time, we can't stand in the players way, how many times do you have to be told this Sell Scott and we set the club up for the next five years, Keeping Scott doesn't garentee us promotion, the team as it stands isn't as strong as Leeds, Middlesborough, Millwall, Southampton, Leicester, Sunderland that's just six teams who should finish above us, without further strengthening of City's squad, We finished mid table, we've added players but so has everyone else, You seem to fail the very basics of economics with regards to ffp and club finances With Scott in the side its still doubtful we will finish top 6 and if we do, it's even more doubtful we would win the play offs as this club has never done that, It is even less likely we'd finish top 2 4 1 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy bedlock Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Because for the billionanth time, we can't stand in the players way, how many times do you have to be told this Sell Scott and we set the club up for the next five years, Keeping Scott doesn't garentee us promotion, the team as it stands isn't as strong as Leeds, Middlesborough, Millwall, Southampton, Leicester, Sunderland that's just six teams who should finish above us, without further strengthening of City's squad, We finished mid table, we've added players but so has everyone else, You seem to fail the very basics of economics with regards to ffp and club finances With Scott in the side its still doubtful we will finish top 6 and if we do, it's even more doubtful we would win the play offs as this club has never done that, It is even less likely we'd finish top 2 Believing is everything 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Because for the billionanth time, we can't stand in the players way, how many times do you have to be told this Sell Scott and we set the club up for the next five years, Keeping Scott doesn't garentee us promotion, the team as it stands isn't as strong as Leeds, Middlesborough, Millwall, Southampton, Leicester, Sunderland that's just six teams who should finish above us, without further strengthening of City's squad, We finished mid table, we've added players but so has everyone else, You seem to fail the very basics of economics with regards to ffp and club finances With Scott in the side its still doubtful we will finish top 6 and if we do, it's even more doubtful we would win the play offs as this club has never done that, It is even less likely we'd finish top 2 Football is about dreams not logic. You are perhaps realistic but bollocks to that. We can do it . 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elruliri Posted July 21, 2023 Report Share Posted July 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Football is about dreams not logic. You are perhaps realistic but bollocks to that. We can do it . That's the spirit Major! They don't like it up um, big tone may disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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