shelts Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 15 hours ago, OldlandReddies said: Feels like a smokescreen doesn't it. It does. Love to be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 1 hour ago, phantom said: It's been repeated over and over again that any money made WILL NOT be reinvested in new players I am amazed so many people continue to not understand this I know what’s been said. However that doesn’t mean it won’t happen. Anyone from the club can say whatever they like to the press. Doesn’t mean it’ll reflect actual plans or intentions. And despite what’s been so say declared when Scott is sold, I’d be more surprised if there weren’t incomings. You have to remember that selling for big money will alert any clubs in advance if we were to start bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transfer reader Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 25 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Something about an Italian midfielder... Breaking- Bournemouth in €18m bid for Alessandro Scotti, teenage midfielder of Serie B side Bristoli Or something like that 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 Few Wolves fans on Twitter clinging to a rumour that they are back in with another offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDarwall Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 34 minutes ago, marmite said: Appreciate that but just supposing, hypothetically, that it was Preston who were bidding? Would we keep him out against them? I'm pretty sure they aren't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 1 minute ago, TDarwall said: I'm pretty sure they aren't! The clue was in the word "hypothetically". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDarwall Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 Even if they were, I don't think it changes anything. If you're on the cusp of getting £20m +, why take the risk that the player injures himself? If we were about to play someone who were on thr verge of signing Scott, common sense says we don't play him but delay the deal a day or so, so he can't play for them either. I'd be amazed if he's starting tomorrow, but if he does, I think it's a sign nothing is imminent. I could be wrong mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 1 hour ago, phantom said: Are you Joking, NP clearly said Kalas HAS GONE Assume you noticed that we have added players to our squad over the summer? NP clearly said IM NOT GOING TO SAY DEFINITELY NOT He also say, contrary to your post, that we may look to add a goalkeeper. It is also evident, contrary to your post, that we will sign if we sell Scott. Maybe one, maybe two. Who knows. But we will definitely sign. Jeez. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted August 4, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 1 hour ago, downendcity said: Then again, the club might have showed "ambition" by holding on the Scott. However, if we then failed to gain promotion this season and 18 months down the road ended up selling him for £5, to avoid him running down his contract and leaving for nothing, the same fans would then accuse the club of gross mismanagement for not having sold him at peak value of £25m! Given the compensation is likely to be around £10m if he sees out his contract, we would not be forced to sell for £5m (presuming you meant £5m not a fiver ) next Summer. I fully expect Alex to get called up to the U21s this season, regardless of whether he moves, and I barring a long term injury, I don't see why we would get any less than £20m next season, especially if he carried his pre-season more attacking gameplay into this season for us. He might even hold his value. If we got promoted his value would increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 4, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Jose said: I mean you explained better than I did but I thought it made sense. Not to @phantom it seems. I am absolutely amazed at the lack of understanding of some on here Suck it up and prepare to be disappointed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 Just now, Ian M said: Given the compensation is likely to be around £10m if he sees out his contract, we would not be forced to sell for £5m (presuming you meant £5m not a fiver ) next Summer. I fully expect Alex to get called up to the U21s this season, regardless of whether he moves, and I barring a long term injury, I don't see why we would get any less than £20m next season, especially if he carried his pre-season more attacking gameplay into this season for us. He might even hold his value. When we get If we got promoted his value will would increase. There! Fixed that for you Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, phantom said: I am absolutely amazed at the lack of understanding of some on here Suck it up and prepare to be disappointed What the hell are you talking about? Disappointed at what? I just was playing devils advocate. I’m very positive about where we are. Try reading instead of trying to play the know it all. **** me this place is hard work sometimes. Edited August 4, 2023 by Jose 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 4, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 Just now, Jose said: What the hell are you talking about? Disappointed at what? I just was playing devils advocate. I’m very positive about where we are. **** me this place is hard work sometimes. My reply was aimed at my sad little troll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 1 minute ago, phantom said: My reply was aimed at my sad little troll You quoted me…… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 4, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jose said: You quoted me…… Read the thread back . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabledRobin Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 Looks as though Phantom will lose his marbles before Alex Scott is sold. The 159 pointless pages have certainly taken a toll on our poor moderator 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 Just now, phantom said: Read the thread back . . The absolute irony. You’re boring me. Time to open a beer ( by the sounds of it you’ve beat me to it ) and look forward to the football later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, Ian M said: Given the compensation is likely to be around £10m if he sees out his contract, we would not be forced to sell for £5m (presuming you meant £5m not a fiver ) next Summer. I fully expect Alex to get called up to the U21s this season, regardless of whether he moves, and I barring a long term injury, I don't see why we would get any less than £20m next season, especially if he carried his pre-season more attacking gameplay into this season for us. He might even hold his value. If we got promoted his value would increase. I don't disagree Ian, and have previously posted that if Alex continues to progress then his value could/would increase. My point was more that even If the club showed ambition by keeping him, but eventually had to sell him for far less than the current £25m, then those now criticising the club for wanting to sell him would then criticise it for not having sold him now at peak value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 19 minutes ago, downendcity said: My point was more that even If the club showed ambition by keeping him, but eventually had to sell him for far less than the current £25m, then those now criticising the club for wanting to sell him would then criticise it for not having sold him now at peak value. Peak value at age 19? Surely not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 Not in the squad tomorrow. Out injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDarwall Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bcfcshags said: Not in the squad tomorrow. Out injured Hope it's not serious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bcfcshags said: Not in the squad tomorrow. Out injured “Injured” or injured? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 4, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 46 minutes ago, James54De said: It is also evident, contrary to your post, that we will sign if we sell Scott. Maybe one, maybe two. Who knows. But we will definitely sign. I know you have liked to troll me for many years now, so maybe you will listen to someone else that understands what is going on? 15 hours ago, Psychopomp said: We already know we will not be signing other players, and that the money has already been spent. That is the harsh reality for a club that has a turnover that does not come close to covering the running costs or wage bills. The below is open to interpretation, but if we look into what was said... Anyway, I've said all I need to say now - enjoy the game tomorrow 46 minutes ago, James54De said: NP clearly said IM NOT GOING TO SAY DEFINITELY NOT 09:15 - 10:00 Q: "Is the door still open for Tomas Kalas, or are you now...." NP: "Well if it is, it's a bit draughty, you know, I've not spoken to Tomas for weeks and I think that's something that is probably over now, err I'm not going to say definitely not, cause... because it's not something that's been discussed at all and we're not going to shift on the financial aspects of where we were with him and that was the reason it did not go ahead , I would think the probabilities are very low" 26:46 - 27:00 Q: "With Kalas potentially leaving NP: "He has left" Q: "Potentially coming back" NP "There is no potentially" 46 minutes ago, James54De said: He also say, contrary to your post, that we may look to add a goalkeeper. 19:40 - 21:10 Q: ... you said at the start of pre-season in terms of the goal keeper department you were going to have a look at it, Harvey and Stefan in terms of the number two, have you kind of made a decision with that and are you confident that your goal keeping department is strong enough for the campaign"? A: It's an area that we might still look at, at some point, but and I think that I have explained this over the last week or so, that we are not now in a position where if we are going to bring somebody else in we are right on the limit in terms of how we have decided to structure our wages, and so it is something we might have to look at it, it's not a, it's not the priority. This is where we go back to the Alex Scott situation that if we sold him we are not going to then be able to then spend fortunes as that is not where we are as a football club now, we worked hard to get where we are now. We have an agreed ceiling for the wages, the wage bill. I think that it is important to verbalise so that our fanbase understand that too" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Northern Red said: Something about an Italian midfielder... That's what my wife says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, phantom said: I know you have liked to troll me for many years now, so maybe you will listen to someone else that understands what is going on? The below is open to interpretation, but if we look into what was said... Anyway, I've said all I need to say now - enjoy the game tomorrow 09:15 - 10:00 Q: "Is the door still open for Tomas Kalas, or are you now...." NP: "Well if it is, it's a bit draughty, you know, I've not spoken to Tomas for weeks and I think that's something that is probably over now, err I'm not going to say definitely not, cause... because it's not something that's been discussed at all and we're not going to shift on the financial aspects of where we were with him and that was the reason it did not go ahead , I would think the probabilities are very low" 26:46 - 27:00 Q: "With Kalas potentially leaving NP: "He has left" Q: "Potentially coming back" NP "There is no potentially" 19:40 - 21:10 Q: ... you said at the start of pre-season in terms of the goal keeper department you were going to have a look at it, Harvey and Stefan in terms of the number two, have you kind of made a decision with that and are you confident that your goal keeping department is strong enough for the campaign"? A: It's an area that we might still look at, at some point, but and I think that I have explained this over the last week or so, that we are not now in a position where if we are going to bring somebody else in we are right on the limit in terms of how we have decided to structure our wages, and so it is something we might have to look at it, it's not a, it's not the priority. This is where we go back to the Alex Scott situation that if we sold him we are not going to then be able to then spend fortunes as that is not where we are as a football club now, we worked hard to get where we are now. We have an agreed ceiling for the wages, the wage bill. I think that it is important to verbalise so that our fanbase understand that too" I’ve never trolled anyone. I’ve become frustrated at the shite you often spout. Both quotes you’ve put in prove exactly my point; see highlighted. Hope you enjoy tomorrow too. Edited August 4, 2023 by James54De 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, phantom said: I know you have liked to troll me for many years now, so maybe you will listen to someone else that understands what is going on? The below is open to interpretation, but if we look into what was said... Anyway, I've said all I need to say now - enjoy the game tomorrow 09:15 - 10:00 Q: "Is the door still open for Tomas Kalas, or are you now...." NP: "Well if it is, it's a bit draughty, you know, I've not spoken to Tomas for weeks and I think that's something that is probably over now, err I'm not going to say definitely not, cause... because it's not something that's been discussed at all and we're not going to shift on the financial aspects of where we were with him and that was the reason it did not go ahead , I would think the probabilities are very low" 26:46 - 27:00 Q: "With Kalas potentially leaving NP: "He has left" Q: "Potentially coming back" NP "There is no potentially" 19:40 - 21:10 Q: ... you said at the start of pre-season in terms of the goal keeper department you were going to have a look at it, Harvey and Stefan in terms of the number two, have you kind of made a decision with that and are you confident that your goal keeping department is strong enough for the campaign"? A: It's an area that we might still look at, at some point, but and I think that I have explained this over the last week or so, that we are not now in a position where if we are going to bring somebody else in we are right on the limit in terms of how we have decided to structure our wages, and so it is something we might have to look at it, it's not a, it's not the priority. This is where we go back to the Alex Scott situation that if we sold him we are not going to then be able to then spend fortunes as that is not where we are as a football club now, we worked hard to get where we are now. We have an agreed ceiling for the wages, the wage bill. I think that it is important to verbalise so that our fanbase understand that too" If we sell Scott we will definitely bring in 2 or 3 , nige is hardly going to advertise the fact we’re looking to bring players in, it’s all a bit smoke and mirrors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Musicworks Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, Bcfcshags said: Not in the squad tomorrow. Out injured Hopefully due back just after the window closes ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 Have to say I am quite impressed at how bullish the Club are being on this one. I posted a while back that I thought he'd leave for closer to £18m than £25m but the Club are holding firm so it looks like I'll be wrong (if he does leave). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 31 minutes ago, Bcfcshags said: Not in the squad tomorrow. Out injured Ah, injured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted August 4, 2023 Report Share Posted August 4, 2023 23 minutes ago, phantom said: we are not now in a position where if we are going to bring somebody else in we are right on the limit in terms of how we have decided to structure our wages, and so it is something we might have to look at it, it's not a, it's not the priority. This is where we go back to the Alex Scott situation that if we sold him we are not going to then be able to then spend fortunes as that is not where we are as a football club now, we worked hard to get where we are now. We have an agreed ceiling for the wages, the wage bill. I think that it is important to verbalise so that our fanbase understand that too" I find it all rather depressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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