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21 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

Ordinary maybe but at the time of signing our players at a higher level than us and able to offer a significant wage increase. Whilst not all players are lured by money the overwhelming majority want to play at the highest level. Our failure to keep them was not down to our standing as a club, but to our standing in the league pyramid, which like it or not they were part of. That's how it goes. We enjoy the players while we have them and as they move on so do we. 

Yeah but at the same time.. I feel his point is linked to the fact that (and I know that there are so many factors that go into it.. luck to to a certain extent) we, who view our selves as decent sized club with a good backing.. (15-25k weekly for the last couple decades) have not played a single game in the PL.

Others like PNE would feel similar I’d imagine but can’t think of loads of clubs our side that haven’t been up at least once to the Prem.

but maybe there are loads and I just see city as the next big thing.. i always have ?

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3 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Was he that good? Just saying…….no goals…:rare assist, lovely pirouette, great deal! 

He was Shaun. Well ahead of his contemporaries and too good for us. I agree, it's a great deal though.

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8 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Was he that good? Just saying…….no goals…:rare assist, lovely pirouette, great deal! 

Way too good for us sadly. You also have to consider that from the age of 17 we have relied heavily on him. Adapted to right wing back and played in pretty ordinary City sides since his debut.

He’s different class. He’s clearly benefited from first team football at champ level but he’s outgrown this level now.

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5 hours ago, redsontour said:

Scottie could, of course, break our 2nd highest transfer record in the future as well …because there is not a cat in hells chance that there isn’t a sell on clause of at least 20% in this deal, that’s standard now. 

Bournemouth fan's shouldn't be too smug, as i believe they will be going through exactly what we are presently experiencing.........in the next 18 months to 2 years?  Once he proves how capable he is in the Prem, he will be stepping up to the next level at a top 6 club or even abroad?  Methinks.

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5 hours ago, redsontour said:

Scottie could, of course, break our 2nd highest transfer record in the future as well …because there is not a cat in hells chance that there isn’t a sell on clause of at least 20% in this deal, that’s standard now. 

15 percent of profit would be my best bet but who knows.

20 percent or above isn't all that common but then Scott is an exceptional talent.

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8 hours ago, REDOXO said:

Honestly do you think Webster, Brownhill, Kelly, Semenyo and now It seems Scott could have been kept once Premier League interest comes in. We can not pay the wages that are on offer and making them stay devalues them possibly to zero if they get the footballing equivalent of the hump and run out their contract like Massengo. 
 

Brentford is the model City are now effectively following and have been for a while. The problem we had was LJ would spend all the money coming in on clubs in the bag, unfortunately there were nearly all Top Flights with the occasional Callaway. 
 

Pearson is clearly a little miffed that Scott is seemingly on his way, (with two years left) but he will get over it, he did at Leicester. 
 

The difference now is we have actually a way of doing things, we are not just talking about DNA. AD had years to develop a side, Pearson has had a whole lot less time, but we continue to bring through players as above, it’s just a matter of spending it well

I said to someone who used to post on OTIB a while back, that SL is a bit of a Football Club Model Magpie….ooh, ooh, shiny object….Brighton Model, then Brentford model…looks like he now has Luton’s model in his sights!!

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2 hours ago, Not Banksy said:

Makes it slightly easier to take.. If he went straight to that “top side” the likelihood of a sell on would be lower.. but at a club like Bournemouth.. if he is the real deal.. that big club will come in and we get more money down the line ?‍♂️

Strangely I think it would make it easier if he went to a ‘top side’ from a fan perspective. Yes we’re more likely to benefit from a sell on fee with Bournemouth but wouldn’t it be nice to see one of our own go on and succeed with the big boys? The lower prem teams aren’t that much of a step up in reality and we all know Alex could go all the way. 
 

Gets kinda boring being a feeder club for Bournemouth/Villa etc 

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3 hours ago, Southport Red said:

Agreed. Behaved far more professionally than say, Famara, who appeared to goon strike for a month. 

A month???? ???

1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

Harry Seacombe, Michael Bentine and Spike Milligan were well pissed off with him for that, I can tell you.

That was a potty time for weird comedy! ?

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5 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

Sorry Monkeh I agree with the post but the use of “of” when you mean “have” triggers me. I can cope with it once in a post but it’s driving me mental here!

Ha. It triggers me a bit too :). But it's definitely not as triggering as 'draw' when the poster means 'drawer'. Get me though, because for my first 45 years (at least), I thought 'remuneration' was 'renumeration'. In other words, I'm not best placed to point out spelling mistakes, or grammatical errors, as I barely get by myself

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Just watched his first interview at Bournemouth. He is very grounded for a 19 year old and genuinely surprised by how far he has come in the last 3 years.

He is very complimentary when it comes to Bristol City and how he will always be grateful for the opportunities that he was given by the club.

Clearly excited by the prospect of playing in the Premier League, and describes it as every kids dream. It’s almost like he can’t believe it himself having been disillusioned with football after being released by Southampton and totally lacking self belief.

It’s a credit to him that he remains humble despite the fact that he is clearly a very talented footballer.

He is top class all round and deserves every success in the future.

Pleased he extended his contract to ensure that we benefited well financially from his departure. 

We’re definitely more financially solid now and the next few years shouldn’t be as frustrating as the previous few.

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8 hours ago, Davefevs said:

I said to someone who used to post on OTIB a while back, that SL is a bit of a Football Club Model Magpie….ooh, ooh, shiny object….Brighton Model, then Brentford model…looks like he now has Luton’s model in his sights!!

There’s absolutely nothing wrong on modeling success. It would never be an exact copy of another but an adaptation. 
I am delighted if he is following the examples of those clubs you can mention. ( excepting that Brentford ditched their academy so not exactly the same model) .

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8 hours ago, Sleepy1968 said:

Ha. It triggers me a bit too :). But it's definitely not as triggering as 'draw' when the poster means 'drawer'. Get me though, because for my first 45 years (at least), I thought 'remuneration' was 'renumeration'. In other words, I'm not best placed to point out spelling mistakes, or grammatical errors, as I barely get by myself

So you get your draws in a knot. 
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8 hours ago, Sleepy1968 said:

Ha. It triggers me a bit too :). But it's definitely not as triggering as 'draw' when the poster means 'drawer'. Get me though, because for my first 45 years (at least), I thought 'remuneration' was 'renumeration'. In other words, I'm not best placed to point out spelling mistakes, or grammatical errors, as I barely get by myself

I know what you mean.  My problem is with full stops.  ?

 

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9 hours ago, Sleepy1968 said:

Ha. It triggers me a bit too :). But it's definitely not as triggering as 'draw' when the poster means 'drawer'. Get me though, because for my first 45 years (at least), I thought 'remuneration' was 'renumeration'. In other words, I'm not best placed to point out spelling mistakes, or grammatical errors, as I barely get by myself

I think remuneration is something to do with large formations of starlings.

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41 minutes ago, Dastardly and Muttley said:

Anyone worried that none of these reports mention a sell-on clause? Lots of £20m, rising to £25m with add ons, but haven’t actually seen a sell-on clause mentioned yet…

Someone reassure me. ?

Not really. A sell on is likely to be something like 20% of the profit Bournemouth make on any future sale. So if they sold for £50m we get 20% of £25m, which is £5m. 

Now that's not chump change of course, and if it's in the deal then great, but it's also no longer the sort of sum that makes or breaks our finances. 

The numbers above are assumed of course, and any one of them could be wrong, but personally I don't think we'd be too stressed about it.

The counter is I guess "well Rice went for £100m" and 20% of £75m profit is £15m, and that would change our finances for a season, but that's not guaranteed.

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8 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Not really. A sell on is likely to be something like 20% of the profit Bournemouth make on any future sale. So if they sold for £50m we get 20% of £25m, which is £5m. 

Now that's not chump change of course, and if it's in the deal then great, but it's also no longer the sort of sum that makes or breaks our finances. 

The numbers above are assumed of course, and any one of them could be wrong, but personally I don't think we'd be too stressed about it.

The counter is I guess "well Rice went for £100m" and 20% of £75m profit is £15m, and that would change our finances for a season, but that's not guaranteed.

My thinking was more like 15 percent however 20 percent would be even better.

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39 minutes ago, beaverface said:

WHAT !! Me too, this has just messed with my mind. I was certain it was renumeration !!!

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Renumeration. almost like re-numbering (in my head at least). therefore numbers linked to payments/numbers. no? 

I don't know what to believe anymore. It's Friday and my brain wasn't prepared for this today

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5 minutes ago, deadredfred said:

Renumeration. almost like re-numbering (in my head at least). therefore numbers linked to payments/numbers. no? 

I don't know what to believe anymore. It's Friday and my brain wasn't prepared for this today

You're thinking too sensibly - that was how I rationalised it too.

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51 minutes ago, deadredfred said:

Renumeration. almost like re-numbering (in my head at least). therefore numbers linked to payments/numbers. no? 

I don't know what to believe anymore. It's Friday and my brain wasn't prepared for this today

The root of remunerate is latin, meaning (roughly) "to give back"

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2 hours ago, Dastardly and Muttley said:

Anyone worried that none of these reports mention a sell-on clause? Lots of £20m, rising to £25m with add ons, but haven’t actually seen a sell-on clause mentioned yet…

Someone reassure me. ?

No, sell ons are standard for us now. Lansdown said this years ago

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3 hours ago, Gert Mare said:

Just watched his first interview at Bournemouth. He is very grounded for a 19 year old and genuinely surprised by how far he has come in the last 3 years.

He is very complimentary when it comes to Bristol City and how he will always be grateful for the opportunities that he was given by the club.

Clearly excited by the prospect of playing in the Premier League, and describes it as every kids dream. It’s almost like he can’t believe it himself having been disillusioned with football after being released by Southampton and totally lacking self belief.

It’s a credit to him that he remains humble despite the fact that he is clearly a very talented footballer.

He is top class all round and deserves every success in the future.

Pleased he extended his contract to ensure that we benefited well financially from his departure. 

We’re definitely more financially solid now and the next few years shouldn’t be as frustrating as the previous few.

https://www.afcb.co.uk/videos/interviews/the-first-interview-alex-scott/

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18 minutes ago, Kingswoodactor said:

Scott out injured for a few months apparently. Guess that also pushed us to sell now!

Just seen that too

His value was only going downwards in that case as would have only had a couple of months gametime before Jan and at that point, the contract would have become an issue.

We’ve done well to get the deal we’ve got in the circumstances.

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1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said:

Iraola says Scott is out for a couple of months.

Yep, just watched that.

Can't help feeling that caused us to push the sell button a bit.

A couple of months, can easily turn into longer. He certainly wouldn't have been available for Millwall tomorrow (like NP said he probably would of).

Sounds like it was a good time for all parties to get a deal done. For me, the Scott saga has been a bit of an unnecessary saga this summer. 

Luckily we have another 3 weeks to address any perceived areas of improvement in the team now.

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2 hours ago, Nathandao said:

Anyone know when Scott will be added to FPL? Reckon he will be a cheap pickup and he's definitely going in my team when he's back from injury.

Isn't that based on goals and assists? Surely other players who will score more points

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4 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said:

Yep, just watched that.

Can't help feeling that caused us to push the sell button a bit.

A couple of months, can easily turn into longer. He certainly wouldn't have been available for Millwall tomorrow (like NP said he probably would of).

Sounds like it was a good time for all parties to get a deal done. For me, the Scott saga has been a bit of an unnecessary saga this summer. 

Luckily we have another 3 weeks to address any perceived areas of improvement in the team now.

Nope, if the two months assessment is correct then he's not going to be playing until early October, which is only slightly earlier than Conway is currently projected to be fit. So sell or not we'd have been without our two young starlets for the first dozen or so matches.

As you say, it's better for everyone to get it done with a few weeks left of the window and see if we want to strengthen. 

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4 hours ago, Major Isewater said:

There’s absolutely nothing wrong on modeling success. It would never be an exact copy of another but an adaptation. 
I am delighted if he is following the examples of those clubs you can mention. ( excepting that Brentford ditched their academy so not exactly the same model) .

Sorry, I should’ve been clearer.

I’m suggesting SL flip-flops between “models” based on the point they succeed…not the journey they’ve been on to get that success.  If he really wanted to do the Brighton model a few years back…why hasn’t he stuck with it…because they appear to be leaving us even further behind.

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1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said:

Nope, if the two months assessment is correct then he's not going to be playing until early October, which is only slightly earlier than Conway is currently projected to be fit. So sell or not we'd have been without our two young starlets for the first dozen or so matches.

As you say, it's better for everyone to get it done with a few weeks left of the window and see if we want to strengthen. 

How often in the last few seasons though has 2 months turned into 3 or 4? Certainly the case with Naismith and TC at the start of the year. There can be no guarantees of course on the timing of their returns.

To sell an injured player for £25m on that basis is a good negotiation from my point of view. Amazed that Bournemouth didn't pause it, after they apparently missed the severity of Antoine's shin injury from the medical in Jan.

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To put in context the irritation some have expressed about losing Scott to Bournemouth, Aarons had agreed a deal with Leeds and was there for his medical.

Then there was a call from, you guessed it, Bournemouth, and he signed for them the next day.

If Leeds can't compete with them how can we?

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Apologies if this has already been set out but I haven’t seen it. Can someone with a good understanding of the club’s finances and FFP explain what this sale means for the club.

Does it resolve our debt concerns in an instant? How much of it can we likely afford to reinvest in the team? What does it mean for the wage budget?

I don’t have a good understanding of our financial position or the hard numbers of our accounts, so I’d like to understand what this does for us.

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3 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

Do they have 14 days to change their minds, or doesn't it work like that (mate)?

Seeing as they conducted a medical prior to signing the deal, and they've admitted we told them he was injured, they're not going to have much grounds to rescind the contract.

I'd really not worry about it all (mate).

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2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Sorry, I should’ve been clearer.

I’m suggesting SL flip-flops between “models” based on the point they succeed…not the journey they’ve been on to get that success.  If he really wanted to do the Brighton model a few years back…why hasn’t he stuck with it…because they appear to be leaving us even further behind.

Uncle Steve thought he knew something about football and it’s only when we have strong football characters in the building, like GJ, Cotts and Nigel that we progress. As you say ‘flip flops’ with the emphasis on flops . 
It is promising to see that he appears to be on a steady course with Tins, Alexander and Pearson. 
:fingerscrossed:

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