Jerseybean Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65239073 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 Keep an eye out for rumours of Ince pitching up at Tranmere next. Still lives on the Wirral from when he played at Liverpool, and was on the shortlist when they appointed Keith Hill a couple of years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Steve Watts said: Well he's not lasted for a full year in (permanent) charge in his career, so I'm not sure it's that unfair a rep. Reading he just sneaks over the line due to his caretaker role starting in February 22. His first stint at the Franchise was impressive though in terms of results, but since then it's been pretty dire. But I think that relates to the roles he's been offered. I don't think many of the jobs he's taken are particularly stable environments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 A nice signing on fee for his lad when Ince, inevitably, gets another job and signs him, again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 He's created a rod for his own back by making this comment. Especially if they go on a winning run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 Like others have said whether you like ince or not he is working for a basket case of a club , was told by good authority that when ince was at Ashton gate a few weeks ago he was chatting to well let’s call them ! Staff ! And he said his days were numbered he also mentioned 2 of the players were on salaries of upwards of £35,000 a week which ince couldn’t believe . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, redkev said: Like others have said whether you like ince or not he is working for a basket case of a club , was told by good authority that when ince was at Ashton gate a few weeks ago he was chatting to well let’s call them ! Staff ! And he said his days were numbered he also mentioned 2 of the players were on salaries of upwards of £35,000 a week which ince couldn’t believe . Well one of those must be Andy Carroll. The other? Lucas Joao? They will have paid big money at the time to take him from Sheffield Wednesday, as he had been their main man. Hendrick & Meite are the only others I can imagine might be on that much. No wonder the FA gave them a 6-point deduction! As for Ince, I don’t think he’s a particularly good manager. There are certainly better in this division, even amongst those who have already been sacked this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 7 hours ago, FNQ said: Harsh.. but I can’t see them getting many more points either.. i cant see qpr getting more than 2, if they are lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, redsquirrel said: i cant see qpr getting more than 2, if they are lucky Have you forgot they play us last game of the season . seriously it would be nice for us be the nasty old wolf for once and put the final nail in someone’s coffin, for years we have been a soft touch , hopefully things are a changing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyderman Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, redkev said: Have you forgot they play us last game of the season . seriously it would be nice for us be the nasty old wolf for once and put the final nail in someone’s coffin, for years we have been a soft touch , hopefully things are a changing Be ironic if the one time we do it keeps Cardiff up 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, Cyderman said: Be ironic if the one time we do it keeps Cardiff up do you think we would let qpr win to increase the risk of them going down if the table is poised that way? would be sooo funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 One thing is that, if QPR are still in the mix come the last day, there`s every chance it will be one of the Sky live games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 hour ago, redkev said: Have you forgot they play us last game of the season . seriously it would be nice for us be the nasty old wolf for once and put the final nail in someone’s coffin, for years we have been a soft touch , hopefully things are a changing I recall us sending Brentford down once on the last day, about 30 years ago, much to the disgust of a somewhat portly gentleman on the away terrace who subsequently was serenaded by the Dolman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dr Balls said: Well one of those must be Andy Carroll. The other? Lucas Joao? They will have paid big money at the time to take him from Sheffield Wednesday, as he had been their main man. Hendrick & Meite are the only others I can imagine might be on that much. No wonder the FA gave them a 6-point deduction! As for Ince, I don’t think he’s a particularly good manager. There are certainly better in this division, even amongst those who have already been sacked this season. Also @redkev Joao may well he one, Liam Moore is mooted as being one of their top earners- think he got given a new contract in their big spending period. Ejaria maybe? Puscas signed for big money but he's on loan back in Italy so perhaps not. Meite perhaps not, Hendrick is heavily subsidised along with Chelsea loanees. Carroll definitely not, he signed under the Business Plan. Edited April 11, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, Ronnie Sinclair said: I recall us sending Brentford down once on the last day, about 30 years ago, much to the disgust of a somewhat portly gentleman on the away terrace who subsequently was serenaded by the Dolman He’s fat, he’s round, his team are going down, BALDY! BALDY! Remember the day well. Amazing how one individual managed to get what seemed like the entire ground singing at him. Edited April 12, 2023 by Wanderingred 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searles Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 Awful manager amazed he had a championship gig in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 18 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Also @redkev Joao may well he one, Liam Moore is mooted as being one of their top earners- think he got given a new contract in their big spending period. Ejaria maybe? Puscas signed for big money but he's on loan back in Italy so perhaps not. Meite perhaps not, Hendrick is heavily subsidised along with Chelsea loanees. Carroll definitely not, he signed under the Business Plan. One of them is definitely Liam Moore, a complete car crash of a player for them at the moment. I would push the boat out and go for Lucas Joao on the other. Both of them unwilling to move on to other clubs due to the wages they are getting at Reading, and thus will move on frees at the end of their contracts. Like some of our 2019 signings, that really was the golden age of Championship earnings for players. So many clubs can't wait to see the back of those contracts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said: One of them is definitely Liam Moore, a complete car crash of a player for them at the moment. I would push the boat out and go for Lucas Joao on the other. Both of them unwilling to move on to other clubs due to the wages they are getting at Reading, and thus will move on frees at the end of their contracts. Like some of our 2019 signings, that really was the golden age of Championship earnings for players. So many clubs can't wait to see the back of those contracts. We'll see. Stoke have implied that they will be looking at paying top 6 (Championship) wages for example or suggested that they can anyway. Exception or norm- time will tell but there will always be gamblers when the rewards are so great and Parachute Payments skew the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: We'll see. Stoke have implied that they will be looking at paying top 6 (Championship) wages for example or suggested that they can anyway. Exception or norm- time will tell but there will always be gamblers when the rewards are so great and Parachute Payments skew the picture. I think the days of parachute payments per se are coming to an end. There's a growing acceptance that the current situation can't go on as it is, as it's ruining the division. With the new TV deals for the PL & EFL on the horizon, I reckon there will be a more measured financial package for relegated clubs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said: I think the days of parachute payments per se are coming to an end. There's a growing acceptance that the current situation can't go on as it is, as it's ruining the division. With the new TV deals for the PL & EFL on the horizon, I reckon there will be a more measured financial package for relegated clubs. When we finally reach the Prem you can be sure that p.p. will end. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: When we finally reach the Prem you can be sure that p.p. will end. The very second we are mathematically confirmed…….. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Major Isewater said: When we finally reach the Prem you can be sure that p.p. will end. If we stay up, we will benefit. Even a season ending in relegation would be a big financial benefit for us assuming that we didn't do as Forest did last summer. If we keep most of the players who took us up and integrate a couple or three that would stay on even if we came back at end of first season. If we are sensible financially, it will be good for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, cidered abroad said: If we stay up, we will benefit. Even a season ending in relegation would be a big financial benefit for us assuming that we didn't do as Forest did last summer. If we keep most of the players who took us up and integrate a couple or three that would stay on even if we came back at end of first season. If we are sensible financially, it will be good for us Leeds have an interesting model here. About 60-40 split if it's one way between base wage and survival bonuses. Or it could be say 2:1 if done another way, either way it's fairly innovative. No survival and the Year One at least gap is almost filled and that's before any kinda contractual wage reductions, departure of high earners etc. Their accounts in recent years have enormous survival bonuses, ranging between £40-50m! Edited April 12, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) He's awful. I have no idea why he keeps getting jobs; having a good name, I suppose, gets you places. Apart from MK Dons in L1 he's been exceptionally poor as a manager. Edited April 12, 2023 by Lorenzos Only Goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 19 hours ago, Wanderingred said: He’s fat, he’s round, his team are going down, BALDY! BALDY! Remember the day well. Amazing how one individual managed to get what seemed like the entire ground singing at him. The referees at the gate seem to manage it for some reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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