Jude Bellingham

[Selred]

Off to Real. Must be a record fee for an Englishman.

Not sure how he'll do at Real, lots of great young CM's. 

[Betty Swallocks]

Just now, Selred said:

Off to Real. Must be a record fee for an Englishman.

Not sure how he'll do at Real, lots of great young CM's. 

 Nice sell on clause for Brum as well. Be interesting to see how they use that money. 

[Sir Geoff]

Does that mean Scott will now be going to Man City then.

[Roger Red Hat]

10 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

Does that mean Scott will now be going to Man City then.

Or Dortmund?

[The Coach]

Best move for him 

[Gazred]

Incredible, still only 19.

He could have a magnificent career there.

[Super]

44 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

Does that mean Scott will now be going to Man City then.

No.

[Mr Popodopolous]

1 hour ago, Betty Swallocks said:

 Nice sell on clause for Brum as well. Be interesting to see how they use that money. 

Eat into/wipe their likely FFP deficit for next year and maybe spend a little/some too.

Edited May 3, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[Lorenzos Only Goal]

1 hour ago, Betty Swallocks said:

 Nice sell on clause for Brum as well. Be interesting to see how they use that money. 

 

13 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Eat into/wipe their likely FFP deficit for next year and maybe spend a little/some too.

It might not be as much as we think.

Quote

The Athletic stated back in November 2022 that said release clause will see them receive more than 5% of any fee the German giants receive for Bellingham. Romano's new report doesn't include any fee but a sum of £110m was mentioned in a report from The Telegraph last month.

£110m - £25m = £95m (5%) £4.7m

It's a chunk of money but if it's only 5% then it's not going to be silly amounts of cash. 

[Betty Swallocks]

9 minutes ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said:

 

It might not be as much as we think.

£110m - £25m = £95m (5%) £4.7m

It's a chunk of money but if it's only 5% then it's not going to be silly amounts of cash. 

Didn’t ever think it would be as low as 5%.

Future world class player and a 5% sell on clause……. did they leave negotiations down to the lad who was on work experience that week?! 

[Super]

15 minutes ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said:

 

It might not be as much as we think.

£110m - £25m = £95m (5%) £4.7m

It's a chunk of money but if it's only 5% then it's not going to be silly amounts of cash. 

On the Brum forum they think it's 15%

[chinapig]

44 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Eat into/wipe their likely FFP deficit for next year and maybe spend a little/some too.

Or their owner - and it's not entirely clear who that actually is - takes a big chunk for themselves.

[Sir Geoff]

1 hour ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said:

 

It might not be as much as we think.

£110m - £25m = £95m (5%) £4.7m

It's a chunk of money but if it's only 5% then it's not going to be silly amounts of cash. 

Pretty sure it's 25 per cent.

[Davefevs]

58 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said:

Didn’t ever think it would be as low as 5%.

Future world class player and a 5% sell on clause……. did they leave negotiations down to the lad who was on work experience that week?! 

I guess much depends on the original negotiations.

Just playing out a scenario for a club strapped for cash / FFP issues (I don’t know the numbers):

1. £25m and 5% sell-on
2. £20m and 15% sell-on

That £5m guaranteed might not have been easy to sniff at.

Next transfer is OOC, total earned:

1. £25.00m (the better option)
2. £20.00m

At £50m next sale, total earned:

1. £26.25m (the better option)
2. £24.50m

At £80m next sale:

1. £27.75m
2. £29.00m (the better option)

What was it with Andy Cole:

1. £1.6m no add-on
2. £800k with 20%

Thats the story, or something like that

Edited May 3, 2023 by Davefevs

[Jeez]

1 hour ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said:

 

It might not be as much as we think.

£110m - £25m = £95m (5%) £4.7m

It's a chunk of money but if it's only 5% then it's not going to be silly amounts of cash. 

110 - 25 = 85

[spudski]

Regardless of the money...going to Real Madrid is a massive cultural move. 

It's going to be a completely different environment to the UK and Germany. 

I actually feel for him regardless of money. Fair play if he pulls it off. 

Language, culture, history, politics, and so much more...even before kickin a ball. 

[Sturny]

I'm really glad he's not moving to England. 

[Leveller]

19 minutes ago, Sturny said:

I'm really glad he's not moving to England. 

I like the idea of England having internationals with continental club experience.

[Gazred]

36 minutes ago, spudski said:

Regardless of the money...going to Real Madrid is a massive cultural move. 

It's going to be a completely different environment to the UK and Germany. 

I actually feel for him regardless of money. Fair play if he pulls it off. 

Language, culture, history, politics, and so much more...even before kickin a ball. 

Good life experience though.

Of all the young players around he seems to have an older head on those shoulders. I think he could thrive there where others wouldn't, for the reasons you give.

[spudski]

20 minutes ago, Gazred said:

Good life experience though.

Of all the young players around he seems to have an older head on those shoulders. I think he could thrive there where others wouldn't, for the reasons you give.

It'll be interesting to see. As a ' normal' person going to work in Madrid at 19, that's definitely a great life experience. But add the expectations and media intrusion...to be able to perform, enjoy and please...at 19...jeez...it's a big ask. 

[Simon bristol]

This may turn out to be correct, but i tend to go with the robbored believe it when its on the website view with this sort of thing,, there will be multiple stories in the media every week about this transfer, this one might just be another.

there must be 15 likely destinations for scott available on line, not all of them can be correct, but they will have got a load of clicks

[LondonBristolian]

I wonder if this indirectly helps us in terms of the fee we get for Scott. I don’t necessarily think one of the big four or five clubs will be in for him but if Man Utd, Liverpool have to pursue alternatives, it might mean other PL clubs may have their options narrowed and make a bidding war more likely. 

[formerly known as ivan]

Great move for Bellingham but I would be disappointed not seeing him play in the premier league 

[The Bard]

Heard that he doesn't have an agent.  His dad does it for him.  His dad was a policeman who has experience as a hostage negotiator.

 

[GlastonburyRed]

5 minutes ago, The Bard said:

Heard that he doesn't have an agent.  His dad does it for him.  His dad was a policeman who has experience as a hostage negotiator.

 

Bit of a non-league legend around Leamington/West Mids.

[spudski]

9 minutes ago, The Bard said:

Heard that he doesn't have an agent.  His dad does it for him.  His dad was a policeman who has experience as a hostage negotiator.

 

 

3 minutes ago, GlastonburyRed said:

Bit of a non-league legend around Leamington/West Mids.

Indeed he is..

https://en.as.com/soccer/who-is-mark-bellingham-real-madrid-target-judes-father-and-agent-n/

[chinapig]

1 hour ago, Simon bristol said:

This may turn out to be correct, but i tend to go with the robbored believe it when its on the website view with this sort of thing,, there will be multiple stories in the media every week about this transfer, this one might just be another.

there must be 15 likely destinations for scott available on line, not all of them can be correct, but they will have got a load of clicks

If Fabrizio Romano says it's happening (and he does) it's happening.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/may/03/real-madrid-jude-bellingham-deal-sign-borussia-dortmund

Edited May 3, 2023 by chinapig

[Super]

25 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Great move for Bellingham but I would be disappointed not seeing him play in the premier league 

His next move will be when he will be in his prime.

[Lorenzos Only Goal]

2 hours ago, Jeez said:

110 - 25 = 85

Fair enough even less then.

[Lorenzos Only Goal]

3 hours ago, Sir Geoff said:

Pretty sure it's 25 per cent.

It's been widely reported as 5% which isn't unimaginable as they have been in the dodo for a while.  So the conversation might have gone well give you an extra X% and a 5% sell on.