Mr Popodopolous Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said: And we had "Dr Feelbad" leading the medical team that tried to get that lot fit. Afobe was the real loss. His loss made a massive difference to where the team was going, it was too little, too late by the time he returned. Yes, Afobe brought something different, another level. However not only individually but our threat fell drastically once he was out- but the knock on effect for Palmer to name but one. Edited May 16, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 2 hours ago, petehinton said: LJ said at a fans forum at AG he found eliasson by wyscout (or something similar) whilst on his laptop lying on the sofa!! and think he was signed without anyone watching him live as well Really? Never knew that. I still feel MA has generally been the main culprit. LJ had far more investment in building a successful team, and more to lose if he wasn't successful in that. I have no idea what incentives were driving MA, but making the club a financial success had got to more relevant for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Searles said: At the time I thought we had a real player on our hands, but in hindsight I think he was very limited. Very good at mopping up play and passing it on but other than that I think he offered very little. Probably why he is in Serie B. I think he had decent physical attributes in that he had energy and good fitness. Other than that not sure what he has about his game tbh. Might have seen better in a genuine and consistent CM 3. Mop up and pass on can be limited in a two, whereas in a 3..there is a wider range, better balance. Hypothetically: Bentley (Maenpaa) Hunt (Pereira) Kalas Baker DaSilva Smith Nagy(Massengo) Weimann Brownhill Eliasson Afobe What may have been? Okay O'Dowda sort of plummeted that year but the bench strength in theory of the other one out of Bentley/Maenpaa, Hunt/Pereira, Moore was possibly hard done by a bit, Rowe, pre sharp downward turn, first reserve out of Nagy and Massengo, O'Dowda, Palmer (In the right shape) Diedhiou. Forget when exactly Williams joined? It's a little lopsided in parts but I do believe the shape might habe suited us better. Paterson was on loan at Derby of course. Edited May 16, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Red Skin said: A lot of blame being put of LJ for signing Eliasson as a vanity project without knowing where to play him. I'm not convinced it was LJ that instigated a lot of this. My reckoning is that it was MA treating the club and a hothouse for turning promising young players into expensive sales a few years down the line without any DoF or philosophy of the type of football or system we wanted to play. (MA's contract maybe incentivised this or it was pure vanity, I'm not sure which). The irony being that without such a system players aren't able to develop and realise their potential to achieve those sales. I'd have loved to see CO'D and Eliasson in a front three with someone like Conway through the middle. Both players I feel had all the freedom of playing expansive attacking football coached out of them at a critical stage in their development. Whoever was responsible for signing him, he was seemingly signed without a plan for how he would fit into our team. It’s an era that I’m glad to see the back of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 46 minutes ago, David Brent said: Whoever was responsible for signing him, he was seemingly signed without a plan for how he would fit into our team. It’s an era that I’m glad to see the back of. We went through three years of this. A squad full of decent/good players which would not or could not play together. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackofromSanJavier Posted May 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 Niclas and AEK have only gone and won the Greek cup as well on Wednesday. First season in their 'new' stadium.......built on the footprint of the old Nikos Goumas ground at Nea Filadelfia. Can't wait to visit the ground next season to rekindle old friendships, especially wih my personal beer sponsors in Monastiraki So, when the G*s move into their brand spankng new 'Greengrocerstad' in a few weeks, we must be expecting similar achievements 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 On 16/05/2023 at 13:38, Fammyfan said: He was a great signing but at the wrong time and that’s the frustrating thing as we would have got a lot more out of him in our current set up. That being said, he was a decent signing, brought him in for £2m and sold him for £4m with plenty of assists from the bench. I thought we sold him for 2 million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Major Isewater said: I thought we sold him for 2 million? Yeah, around that amount, my guesswork from the annual accounts was £2.25m (€2.5m) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted May 28, 2023 Report Share Posted May 28, 2023 Adam Matthews will be playing in Europe next year too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted May 28, 2023 Report Share Posted May 28, 2023 46 minutes ago, alexukhc said: Adam Matthews will be playing in Europe next year too He was this year. Played against Man Utd in the Europa League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcredandwhite Posted May 28, 2023 Report Share Posted May 28, 2023 I liked Eliasson and used to be frustrated and annoyed when LJ wouldn’t give him 90 minutes. One season he had the top assists in the Championship - despite only playing half the game as a sub. That is very impressive but obviously not to LJ. We wasted his talent imho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 28, 2023 Report Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, bcfcredandwhite said: I liked Eliasson and used to be frustrated and annoyed when LJ wouldn’t give him 90 minutes. One season he had the top assists in the Championship - despite only playing half the game as a sub. That is very impressive but obviously not to LJ. We wasted his talent imho. 3rd highest behind Pereira and Wallace IIRC. All the same that is pretty good, especially as you say with a relative lack of game time or consistent game time. Double figures assists at this level aren't so easy to come by in a 46 game League season (ie disregarding Cups or playoffs). Edited May 28, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) Just come on as a sub for AEK at Brighton. Edit: and just assisted for their 3rd goal. Edited September 21, 2023 by Northern Red 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Just come on as a sub for AEK at Brighton. Lovely assist there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 Didn’t even notice him on the team sheet! Lovely assist - what a man. Couldn’t help but smile! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: Didn’t even notice him on the team sheet! Lovely assist - what a man. Couldn’t help but smile! I hadn't either until he came on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 30 minutes ago, Northern Red said: I hadn't either until he came on. Like seeing a Swedish ghost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 Cracking game that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 2 hours ago, BCFCGav said: Didn’t even notice him on the team sheet! Lovely assist - what a man. Couldn’t help but smile! I always thought LJs decisions to leave him festering on the bench nearly every week were quite sound myself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 Never forget LJ played COD before Eliasson, what a joke. 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 Interesting that even though Lewis Dunk missed out through injury that Adam Webster was still only named as a sub & didn’t get on. Think the likelihood of him moving on & us getting anything further for him is long past now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 On 28/05/2023 at 10:17, bcfcredandwhite said: I liked Eliasson and used to be frustrated and annoyed when LJ wouldn’t give him 90 minutes. One season he had the top assists in the Championship - despite only playing half the game as a sub. That is very impressive but obviously not to LJ. We wasted his talent imho. I found it crazy that he never got an offer from lower Prem or just relegated Champ team, ridiculous amount of assist and always had a good work rate and loads of recoveries. Only had 12 months left on his deal too if I remember properly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, marcofisher said: I found it crazy that he never got an offer from lower Prem or just relegated Champ team, ridiculous amount of assist and always had a good work rate and loads of recoveries. Only had 12 months left on his deal too if I remember properly Because he was always out of position!!! Without the ball he had no idea where he was meant to be. Ask Jack Hunt! O’Dowda was similar, never quite in position, so had to make challenges. Eliasson was a one-trick pony….albeit that one trick was wonderfully delivered. Shame our 6’3” brute of a striker was always on his heels! Happy days back then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedontplayinblue Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 On 16/05/2023 at 14:13, Mr Popodopolous said: Might have seen better in a genuine and consistent CM 3. Mop up and pass on can be limited in a two, whereas in a 3..there is a wider range, better balance. Hypothetically: Bentley (Maenpaa) Hunt (Pereira) Kalas Baker DaSilva Smith Nagy(Massengo) Weimann Brownhill Eliasson Afobe What may have been? Okay O'Dowda sort of plummeted that year but the bench strength in theory of the other one out of Bentley/Maenpaa, Hunt/Pereira, Moore was possibly hard done by a bit, Rowe, pre sharp downward turn, first reserve out of Nagy and Massengo, O'Dowda, Palmer (In the right shape) Diedhiou. Forget when exactly Williams joined? It's a little lopsided in parts but I do believe the shape might habe suited us better. Paterson was on loan at Derby of course. I’ll have to pull you up on that, O Dowda wasn’t decent throughout his whole career here, he should never of been given an contract extension. The stats are simply there to prove it aswell. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, GrahamC said: Interesting that even though Lewis Dunk missed out through injury that Adam Webster was still only named as a sub & didn’t get on. Think the likelihood of him moving on & us getting anything further for him is long past now. He was awful in a recent game. West Ham, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nest Egg Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 7 hours ago, Garland-sweden said: Never forget LJ played COD before Eliasson, what a joke. 'A tEaM i CaN tRuSt !!!!!!' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: He was awful in a recent game. West Ham, I think. Yep- Brighton fan I know said he’s struggled a fair bit this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedontplayinblue Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Wedontplayinblue said: I’ll have to pull you up on that, O Dowda wasn’t decent throughout his whole career here, he should never of been given an contract extension. The stats are simply there to prove it aswell. I just looked at some more stats for o dowda, Last Year at Cardiff, 39 games played, 3 goals, 3 assists, that’s dreadful for a winger. Year before for us, 21 games, 1 goal, 0 assists. Absolutely dreadful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Wedontplayinblue said: I’ll have to pull you up on that, O Dowda wasn’t decent throughout his whole career here, he should never of been given an contract extension. The stats are simply there to prove it aswell. He certainly shouldn't have been a regular starter although I think one year he got 4 goals and 4 assists in the League which isn't too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedontplayinblue Posted September 22, 2023 Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: He certainly shouldn't have been a regular starter although I think one year he got 4 goals and 4 assists in the League which isn't too bad. Eliasson, 19/20 season for us 3 goals. 12 assists. I wouldn’t say 4 goals and 4 assists over a whole season for a winger is at all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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