Kid in the Riot Posted June 13, 2023 Report Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: From memory, someone I worked with lived near him in his final year here. I remember them intimating that he wasn't too bothered about City. Could be rubbish if course, maybe not too bothered isn't right but this was post January window- wasn't wildly passionate etc. Did be turn down a new deal here in 2018 or did I dream it? That was certainly the impression he gave with his performances post-January that year. Mind you, he wasn't the only one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rs Posted June 13, 2023 Report Share Posted June 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: That was certainly the impression he gave with his performances post-January that year. Mind you, he wasn't the only one. Think a lot of people confuse not bothering and exhaustion/overworking 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Posted June 13, 2023 Report Share Posted June 13, 2023 I genuinely feel him not signing is a blessing in disguise. It just didn’t feel right imo. I understand the need for experienced pros to be added to the squad to help the youngsters but JB never really seemed the type to organise (such as Naismith, James, Dickie) or have an eye on becoming a future manager (King). Don’t get me wrong he seems a decent guy and I’m sure wouldn’t have been a bad influence but it just didn’t seem to fit our recruitment model. Best of luck to him wherever he ends up. He will forever be a city legend for those goals against Rovers and United - but let’s leave it there 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted June 13, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted June 13, 2023 7 hours ago, The hand of RO'D said: Apologies I didn’t realise we had special treatment and could sign players outside of the transfer window. Asshat. To be fair we have already signed players this summer, but in response to your original post you were correct about the deal being verbally agreed but things have now changed Personally I think it's for the best, never like a player going back to a club after so long away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 13, 2023 Report Share Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: That was certainly the impression he gave with his performances post-January that year. Mind you, he wasn't the only one. We did have a reasonably thin squad but then again we should have made the playoffs. Not the only one as you say. 27 minutes ago, George Rs said: Think a lot of people confuse not bothering and exhaustion/overworking Yeah that can he true but it in some ways isn't such a big excuse. Burnley 2008-09 had an identical Cup run to us albeit 3 rather than 5 PL sides and a couple more FA Cup games too. It actually propelled them off to compete in, and win the playoffs in May 2009. I do believe not making the playoffs from the position we were in on Boxing Day 2017..hmm. Edited June 13, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted June 13, 2023 Report Share Posted June 13, 2023 25 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: That was certainly the impression he gave with his performances post-January that year. Mind you, he wasn't the only one. Watching them then I thought that following their performances in the cup and up to xmas one or two imagined that there would be alot of interest in the January window. I wondered whether they lost their mojo after that? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted June 13, 2023 Report Share Posted June 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, Midred said: Watching them then I thought that following their performances in the cup and up to xmas one or two imagined that there would be alot of interest in the January window. I wondered whether they lost their mojo after that? Oh I think both him and Reid knew they'd be off in the summer, and that probably goes someway to explaining things. Obviously a couple of poor/woeful loan signings in the shape of Kent and Diony didn't help either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted June 13, 2023 Report Share Posted June 13, 2023 Any perceived lack of effort from any of the players the second half of the season (Reid continued to be exceptional so this certainly wouldn’t apply to him) still doesn’t come close as an explanation to our form falling off a cliff compared to the manager changing the team completely. No centre forwards, a high press high energy team suddenly defending deep and having Diedhiou lumber about up front. Such genius moves as Diedhiou and Diony upfront away at Cardiff, then my personal ‘favourite’ Diedhiou and Djuric up top and Bobby shoved on the left wing. Three months prior we were playing excellent, fast counter attack football, then suddenly I’m watching us play ‘football’ that is nothing more than smashing it as high and far as possible while our best player does shuttle runs up and down the left flank. Genius. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 13, 2023 Report Share Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, bearded_red said: Any perceived lack of effort from any of the players the second half of the season (Reid continued to be exceptional so this certainly wouldn’t apply to him) still doesn’t come close as an explanation to our form falling off a cliff compared to the manager changing the team completely. No centre forwards, a high press high energy team suddenly defending deep and having Diedhiou lumber about up front. Such genius moves as Diedhiou and Diony upfront away at Cardiff, then my personal ‘favourite’ Diedhiou and Djuric up top and Bobby shoved on the left wing. Three months prior we were playing excellent, fast counter attack football, then suddenly I’m watching us play ‘football’ that is nothing more than smashing it as high and far as possible while our best player does shuttle runs up and down the left flank. Genius. We had a couple of games which showed the excellent fast counter attacking football but only in phases. Mostly not. Norwich at home still has the same characteristics but we lost. QPR at home 11 v 11 we were still somewhat dominant, Baker red and we had to adapt. Bolton away to some extent, we had some aspects of dominance but not in others. Sunderland at home first half. Leeds away first half. Sheffield Wednesday at home albeit they were injury hit. Thereafter barely any. That was it, our Cup games aside post say Wolves at home. Edited June 13, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted June 13, 2023 Report Share Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: We had a couple of games which showed the excellent fast counter attacking football but only in phases. Mostly not. Norwich at home still has the same characteristics but we lost. QPR at home 11 v 11 we were still somewhat dominant, Baker red and we had to adapt. Bolton away to some extent, we had some aspects of dominance but not in others. Sunderland at home first half. Leeds away first half. Sheffield Wednesday at home albeit they were injury hit. Thereafter barely any. That was it, our Cup games aside post say Wolves at home. I’ve said on several occasions, it was the Wolves match that killed us. Poor management decisions, coupled with Fielding’s red card and the Cruyff turn. Edited June 13, 2023 by PHILINFRANCE 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 7 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said: I’ve said on several occasions, it was the Wolves match that killed us. Poor management decisions, coupled with Fielding’s red card and the Cruyff turn. Yep coupled with the thrashing at Villa a few days later 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 8 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said: I’ve said on several occasions, it was the Wolves match that killed us. Poor management decisions, coupled with Fielding’s red card and the Cruyff turn. That was the sliding doors moment when Fielding got a red, we were 1-0 up and flying and when that happened you just knew it! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extonsred Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 9 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said: I’ve said on several occasions, it was the Wolves match that killed us. Poor management decisions, coupled with Fielding’s red card and the Cruyff turn. Absolutely - spot on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 16 hours ago, George Rs said: Think a lot of people confuse not bothering and exhaustion/overworking Or, not bothering and the somewhat deflating and demotivating atmosphere of a club run by people who don't quite know what they are doing/ain't all they’re cracked up to be (by their own self-cracking). A club having a January transfer window such as ours in Jan 18, for example. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 15 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said: I’ve said on several occasions, it was the Wolves match that killed us. Poor management decisions, coupled with Fielding’s red card and the Cruyff turn. It was, but I also just find it slightly insane to blame 1 game on an entire half of a season worth of games thereafter.. A big punch on the nose for sure, but not the silver bullet imo. We managed to get back up for it to put in amazing performances in the Man City games a few weeks later. Comfy win against QPR with 10, 3-0 up against Sunderland at HT, 4-0 win against Sheff Wed. I think LJ just massively over complicated it and shat the bed a bit, rather than anything else. Can 20 minutes in one game really mean the next 23 totally capitulate…? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Tinmans Love Child said: That was the sliding doors moment when Fielding got a red, we were 1-0 up and flying and when that happened you just knew it! Much as I liked Frankie he made a heat of the moment crazy error, should have let him score rather than bring him down. Getting thumped by Villa a few days later sealed our fate in many ways. I truly believe that a lot of people at the club got carried away after the cup game, ‘ Premier League team in waiting ‘ etc. That said, I think we were playing out of our skins beforehand and didn’t have the depth to keep it up. The January window was the time to press on and we get Diony and Kent. The later was a disappointment, he clearly didn’t want to be anywhere near AG and that should have been clear to all involved in the signing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, ScottishRed said: Much as I liked Frankie he made a heat of the moment crazy error, should have let him score rather than bring him down. Getting thumped by Villa a few days later sealed our fate in many ways. I truly believe that a lot of people at the club got carried away after the cup game, ‘ Premier League team in waiting ‘ etc. That said, I think we were playing out of our skins beforehand and didn’t have the depth to keep it up. The January window was the time to press on and we get Diony and Kent. The later was a disappointment, he clearly didn’t want to be anywhere near AG and that should have been clear to all involved in the signing. We should have gone back to playing Flint at the back. Unbelievably he was left up front even after we had taken the lead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: We should have gone back to playing Flint at the back. Unbelievably he was left up front even after we had taken the lead. That was one of the poor management decisions to which I referred. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 14, 2023 Report Share Posted June 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: We should have gone back to playing Flint at the back. Unbelievably he was left up front even after we had taken the lead. Should’ve never moved him up in the first place imho. 11v10….0-0, just keep tiring them out, and see if you get a goal. Instead of getting a frustrating 0-0, we lost! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 Mate of mine who's a Millwall fan reckons they're in for Bryan! I told him to behave but he was having none of it. Now that would be a odd move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J D Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 34 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Mate of mine who's a Millwall fan reckons they're in for Bryan! I told him to behave but he was having none of it. Now that would be a odd move. I suppose by saying he'd prefer to play overseas, he could've just meant the River Thames... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDziek Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 hour ago, CyderInACan said: Mate of mine who's a Millwall fan reckons they're in for Bryan! I told him to behave but he was having none of it. Now that would be an odd move. Absolute rubbish. As I know for a fact you have no mates! #ITK 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 Just now, SuperDziek said: Absolute rubbish. As I know for a fact you have no mates! #ITK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo123 Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 Percy reckons Joe Bryan has a medical at Millwall lined up this month. Truly bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said: Percy reckons Joe Bryan has a medical at Millwall lined up this month. Truly bizarre. Yup, link here: Really odd situation. Wanting to try a new lifestyle abroad totally understandable. Realise Millwall finished just outside playoffs - debatable if they can hit that again so footballing reasons I’m not sure they’re the best he could do. They’re also not renowned as big payers so doesn’t seem financial. Might be that he just wants to stay in London I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotswoldred2 Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 14 minutes ago, Jimbo123 said: Percy reckons Joe Bryan has a medical at Millwall lined up this month. Truly bizarre. Not really, he himself admits he doesn't like football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo123 Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 Our first away game of the season - Millwall in front of a sold out away end Just now, cotswoldred2 said: Not really, he himself admits he doesn't like football. Makes it even more strange then doesn't it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 Like with anyone who doesn't want to be here.... **** 'em ! 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hankey Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 (edited) I am assuming his move abroad didn't quite materialise? I think the likely situation is that Pearson probably pulled the plug on this one fairly quickly so we could move on to sign Roberts. Shame, but if he wasn't fully committed then i'm glad we moved on (of course this is just an assumption). Edited June 26, 2023 by Mr Hankey 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 Like Marlon Pack, there is always the view that he may have thought that he didn’t want to come back in fear of tarnishing his reputation??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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