dargla Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 Yes it's paper talk, but what are people's thoughts on this? 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 I guess that’s why City quickly tied down Lauren Smith to a 3-year deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 If England win on Sunday (and I think they will); then the pressure on Southgate to deliver a trophy intensifies further. This can only be a good thing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Bladder Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 I think with the players at his disposal he's underachieved Should have won the Euros 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Slack Bladder said: I think with the players at his disposal he's underachieved Should have won the Euros Maybe it’s the players who underachieved then… 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 What Mark Bullingham actually said, from the BBC: Bullingham went on to say Wiegman "could do anything she wants in football" when pressed if she could potentially take over from men's boss Gareth Southgate. "Firstly, I think it's a bit disrespectful to the Lionesses to project it as a step up," said Bullingham. "People always say it is 'the best man for the job'. Why does it have to be a man? Our answer is always 'it's the best person for the job'." Which the media distorts (shock!) into her being in the frame for managing the men's team. Though she is hugely impressive in many ways so I would have no problem if she was. Managing an international team is a bit of a specialist job these days and she is certainly a specialist. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atyeo's Love Child Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Maybe it’s the players who underachieved then… Far too negative when we were 1-0 up in the final, don’t think that was down to the players 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuno Gomes Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 Surely a retrograde step? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 32 minutes ago, Atyeo's Love Child said: Far too negative when we were 1-0 up in the final, don’t think that was down to the players Totally agree. Italy were an utter shambles in that first half, totally there for the taking. They couldn’t string 2 passes together and we sat off them and let them feel their way back into the game. was really poor from us. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 24 minutes ago, milo1111 said: Totally agree. Italy were an utter shambles in that first half, totally there for the taking. They couldn’t string 2 passes together and we sat off them and let them feel their way back into the game. was really poor from us. And then when Italy came back into the game and it looked on the cards they'd equalise Southgate done sod all to change anything until the inevitable happened and they drew level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lorenzos Only Goal Posted August 18, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 Can we cut the bullshit, no she probably couldn't. I don't want to take away from what she's done it's amazing but inferring that directly transfers to the mens game is nonsense. The women's game is very different to the mens game, can we just not appreciate the woman's game for what it is, bloody fun to watch without the constant direct comparisons to the mens game? 24 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 No, not yet, but I can see her managing a club side up to Championship level first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, The Gasbuster said: If England win on Sunday (and I think they will); then the pressure on Southgate to deliver a trophy intensifies further. This can only be a good thing. Are you joking,as much as I want the women to win you are comparing chalk and cheese regarding the teams the men have to play to win a World Cup 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said: Can we cut the bullshit, no she probably couldn't. I don't want to take away from what she's done it's amazing but inferring that directly transfers to the mens game is nonsense. The women's game is very different to the mens game, can we just not appreciate the woman's game for what it is, bloody fun to watch without the constant direct comparisons to the mens game? Perfectly put 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Are you joking,as much as I want the women to win you are comparing chalk and cheese regarding the teams the men have to play to win a World Cup I’m not making any comparison at all ! Clearly the men’s game is totally different to the women’s. My point stands though, it will increase the pressure on Southgate if the Lionesses win on Sunday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 minute ago, The Gasbuster said: I’m not making any comparison at all ! Clearly the men’s game is totally different to the women’s. My point stands though, it will increase the pressure on Southgate if the Lionesses win on Sunday. Why,if Bristol city women win their league does that put pressure on Nige 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 It’s a completely different game so I couldn’t see her managing in the men’s game just yet. Plus she reminds me a bit too much of Sven…I think it must be the glasses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said: Why,if Bristol city women win their league does that put pressure on Nige No, because all of England does not give a **** about Bristol City. England fans care about the England team though, and it’s lack of success. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 Why not just come out and say you don’t like Southgate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: No, because all of England does not give a **** about Bristol City. England fans care about the England team though, and it’s lack of success. English football fans also know that the standard of the women’s game still leaves a lot to be desired,if you honestly think a women’s team in any sport winning should put pressure on a men’s team then I’m flabbergasted 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said: English football fans also know that the standard of the women’s game still leaves a lot to be desired,if you honestly think a women’s team in any sport winning should put pressure on a men’s team then I’m flabbergasted Well, we will soon see, won’t we ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 minute ago, The Gasbuster said: Well, we will soon see, won’t we ? Will we see soon will we,how’s that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 20 minutes ago, David Brent said: It’s a completely different game so I couldn’t see her managing in the men’s game just yet. Plus she reminds me a bit too much of Sven…I think it must be the glasses. Not just a different game, its almost a different sport! Forgetting the difference in genders, which would be an untested dynamic in itself, in terms of standard it would be like appointing a manager who had done well in non league to the biggest job in English football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 29 minutes ago, David Brent said: It’s a completely different game so I couldn’t see her managing in the men’s game just yet. Plus she reminds me a bit too much of Sven…I think it must be the glasses. Always thought that myself although I find her kind of sexy in a weird way but Sven not so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 I guess the argument here is not about the women’s game compared to the men’s game…they are chalk and cheese. I watch them with a different mindset. I don’t expect the women to do certain things because of power, strength, pace, but I can still enjoy it for other things. But this is a comparison, in the main, about the merits of one coach over another, not the standards of the game Why couldn’t a women be a better coach than a man? FWIW I think Southgate has and is doing a good job. I think he’s built a bit of a club mentality at international level, and we are consistently in the mix in big tournaments. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I guess the argument here is not about the women’s game compared to the men’s game…they are chalk and cheese. I watch them with a different mindset. I don’t expect the women to do certain things because of power, strength, pace, but I can still enjoy it for other things. But this is a comparison, in the main, about the merits of one coach over another, not the standards of the game Why couldn’t a women be a better coach than a man? FWIW I think Southgate has and is doing a good job. I think he’s built a bit of a club mentality at international level, and we are consistently in the mix in big tournaments. Precisely. Any differences of the kinds you mention are irrelevant. The coach after all isn't on the pitch! I agree with what you say about Southgate and Wiegman has done the same. You can see that both squads like and respect their coaches. That goes a long way in international football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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joe jordans teeth Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 31 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I guess the argument here is not about the women’s game compared to the men’s game…they are chalk and cheese. I watch them with a different mindset. I don’t expect the women to do certain things because of power, strength, pace, but I can still enjoy it for other things. But this is a comparison, in the main, about the merits of one coach over another, not the standards of the game Why couldn’t a women be a better coach than a man? FWIW I think Southgate has and is doing a good job. I think he’s built a bit of a club mentality at international level, and we are consistently in the mix in big tournaments. Are we constantly in the mix because we have quality players now all over the park who Southgate can pick from or because of his tactical nous,I would say the former which goes for Wiegman as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 2 hours ago, The Gasbuster said: If England win on Sunday (and I think they will); then the pressure on Southgate to deliver a trophy intensifies further. This can only be a good thing. I can’t relate sorry fella. It has no relevance at all. Was there added pressure on Southgate after the women’s team won the Euro champs? I know you aren’t directly comparing the men & womens game but why does the mens game even need to be mentioned at all? Totally separate and not helpful for the womens game in my eyes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, The Gasbuster said: I’m not making any comparison at all ! Clearly the men’s game is totally different to the women’s. My point stands though, it will increase the pressure on Southgate if the Lionesses win on Sunday. Why would that increase any pressure on Southgate any more that England winning the Rugby World Cup, Some English bloke winning Wimbledon or me landing a job as head of recruitment at the Playboy mansion....?! All totally unrelated to the men's English football team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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