Numero Uno Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Ha has to take Henderson off at half time. His time is up at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Sheltons Army said: You and LJ already at it - I’ll leave you too it weirdo X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 From what I’m seeing we’re still likely to win 3-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Shut the **** up Dublin 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Unreal pass from Kane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedred31 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Please score again and shut Dublin up. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Just now, Sheltons Army said: Shut the **** up Dublin Stop whining mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Walker! 1st goal in 77 games, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 FM the co commenters a ray of sunshine isn't he.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Change it up at half time and this should be comfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 minute ago, And Its Smith said: Stop whining mate Go and prune your roses weirdo A grown up WUM , allegedly with children - a serious embarrassment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Mwahhhhhhhhhhh Mwahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Your whining is what’s embarassing Irony 2 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Go and prune your roses weirdo A grown up WUM , allegedly with children - a serious embarrassment Irony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: You’re playing a team who you knew were going to sit in and you play two defensively minded midfield players. Not only that but neither of them pick up a runner from midfield the first time they put us under pressure. Meanwhile Foden, on fire for Man City, has knocked out five crosswords in the first half hour……. We’ve got Kane, Saka, Maddison and Bellingham as attack minded players. How many more do you want? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 minute ago, And Its Smith said: Irony Irony Living so close to the Swamp it’s Irony you’d actually make a prime classic Sag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Leveller said: We’ve got Kane, Saka, Maddison and Bellingham as attack minded players. How many more do you want? One more, Foden who is absolutely on fire for a far better side than England. Why do we need two defensively minded midfield players against these when we know we will literally have the ball for three quarters of the game? Two defensive players that didn’t get the job done first half btw…… Movement is the obvious thing lacking so far. Is it an accident that a Man City player provided it to score a fine goal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: I feel we’re wasting a golden generation here with Southgate. We have some of the world’s best players and yet he’s picking old favourites. He may have got us to a final, but I genuinely feel like a better manager lifts the trophy. You can have Rashford and Foden, but who else is available who should be playing??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 minute ago, The Bard said: You can have Rashford and Foden, but who else is available who should be playing??? One change should make it more comfortable for England tonight if done early enough. If he waits until the last 15 when Ukraine will go two banks of five if they have something to hold onto it will be a tough game to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The Bard said: You can have Rashford and Foden, but who else is available who should be playing??? Sterling. The problem has been no one seems prepared to take a man on. Bellingham showed flashes of intent, but the orders seem to be retain possession at all costs. Edited September 9, 2023 by Malago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Ha has to take Henderson off at half time. His time is up at this level. Off you go JH.......do not pass GO.......and then pick up your tainted 700K a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Living so close to the Swamp it’s Irony you’d actually make a prime classic Sag Ffs just message each other. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, maxjak said: Off you go JH.......do not pass GO.......and then pick up your tainted 700K a week. I’m not so fussed about that. More the fact that a lad playing fantastic football in a team of superstars can’t get on the pitch for England. If he comes on and plays crap people can say told you so but on basic football logic I’m not getting it!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 I think there is a bearing gone in my washing machine there is a terrible whine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Does anyone else think that Dublin talks too much...or is it just me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 FAO D. Dublin If you haven’t got anything worthwhile to say shut the **** up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedred31 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Too many naughty tackles from Ukraine, frankly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 How many world class players do you think we have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said: Walker! 1st goal in 77 games, A goal ratio of 1/77.. A lot better than mine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, The Bard said: You can have Rashford and Foden, but who else is available who should be playing??? Vyner before Maguire mate. That should give you some idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: How many world class players do you think we have? Walker is probably the best right back in the world apart from that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: How many world class players do you think we have? 1 - Kane. Others are close and may reach world class levels...Saka, Rice, Bellingham 1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said: Walker is probably the best right back in the world apart from that Do agree with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Just now, joe jordans teeth said: Walker is probably the best right back in the world apart from that Really? For me: Walker - albeit twilight years. Bellingham Saka Kane Rice Possibly Foden too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knache-red Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 50 minutes ago, Ecko said: Dublin is unbearable You have to admit he does hammer home some good points 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: How many world class players do you think we have? 5 I would say. Stones. Bellingham. Saka. Grealish. Kane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Really? For me: Walker - albeit twilight years. Bellingham Saka Kane Rice Possibly Foden too. Certainly arguements for Kane,Saka and Foden.Bellingham and rice certainly could be in future years Edited September 9, 2023 by joe jordans teeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Sorry I have just had a little knap did I miss much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 minute ago, And Its Smith said: 5 I would say. Stones. Bellingham. Saka. Grealish. Kane. Not a chance grealish is world class. The others have potential to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Looked like handball to me!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Just now, Ecko said: Not a chance grealish is world class. The others have potential to be. I think he was last season. Had an unbelievable season. Depends how long players have to show it for in order to be world class. The most obvious is Bellingham. Already world class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: 5 I would say. Stones. Bellingham. Saka. Grealish. Kane. Grealish,cmon now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) I think I would fancy Eze to have a little spell late for Saka as he seems to still be a little deadlegged. Edit: who is salad? Edited September 9, 2023 by Lorenzos Only Goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: 5 I would say. Stones. Bellingham. Saka. Grealish. Kane. I had forgotten about Stones. No Rice for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Just now, And Its Smith said: I think he was last season. Had an unbelievable season. Depends how long players have to show it for in order to be world class. The most obvious is Bellingham. Already world class Agreed, he was good last year. However, to become world class you need to have more than 1 unbelievable season. Bellingham isn't quite there yet, but he will be soon. Great talent. It just exemplifies the talent in this squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted September 9, 2023 Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 Too slow too predictable and losing concentration. Need to freshen it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Amazes he left Saka on , limping and unsurprisingly not his usual self at all 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Just now, Ecko said: Agreed, he was good last year. However, to become world class you need to have more than 1 unbelievable season. Bellingham isn't quite there yet, but he will be soon. Great talent. It just exemplifies the talent in this squad. Do you? Problem is that world class means different things to different people . How many ‘world class’ players are there? 20? 30? 40? 50? All very subjective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 My god if ever a team reflected it's manager it's this boring England team 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Sick to bloody death of player and ref close ups, wish for a static camera choice. Miss so much of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Well Madison hasn't done much to endear himself to the Management, his first touch has been really poor for a player at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: I had forgotten about Stones. No Rice for you? Think time will tell. Needs to be running midfields for Arsenal and England I reckon. In his position the best player, for me, in recent years is Kante and I think he was quite ahead of Rice is now. But depends what world class means really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Just now, frenchred said: My god if ever a team reflected it's manager it's this boring England team If you find this England team boring you must have been in a coma for the last 30-40 years 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Just now, Port Said Red said: Well Madison hasn't done much to endear himself to the Management, his first touch has been really poor for a player at this level. Petulant yellow as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Do you? Problem is that world class means different things to different people . How many ‘world class’ players are there? 20? 30? 40? 50? All very subjective. Is world class the top bar is the question,were Messi and Ronaldo world class and everyone else bellow them just very good or we’re they above it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewquayRed Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 This squad has outgrown Southgate 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 I think given that Saka is clearly hurt it's harsh not to give Eze minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Connor Gallagher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said: I just think Southgate has gotten lazy. It's like he cannot be bothered to scout or make new friends or something. Just call up the old boys each time. Much easier. Henderson should be out for both football and non-football reasons. Maguire...I mean the mind just boggles. I personally think it sets a poor example of be a squad player or take the money in a poor league and be selected. If Maguire knew he wouldn’t be picked for England being a bench warmer for Utd would he have gone to West Ham? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said: I think given that Saka is clearly hurt it's harsh not to give Eze minutes. Gallagher ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hankey Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Considering our other results so far, a point here isn’t a bad result at all……however, Southgate starting Henderson (i can understand Maguire to an extent) & flogging Saka, then bringing on the absolute fraud that is Gallagher probably shows that he is an extremely limited coach. Can’t make a case for him being dismissed, but i dont think he has the tactical nous to make the changes required to win a final. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Bladder Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 England are so slow, predictable and boring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mr Hankey said: Considering our other results so far, a point here isn’t a bad result at all……however, Southgate starting Henderson (i can understand Maguire to an extent) & flogging Saka, then bringing on the absolute fraud that is Gallagher probably shows that he is an extremely limited coach. Can’t make a case for him being dismissed, but i dont think he has the tactical nous to make the changes required to win a final. I think he's blessed with some very good players, however I don't think he's suddenly become a tactical genius he's always been a fairly limited coach. Just happens to work for England right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) It must be difficult having to concentrate on playing football when you know that back home people are living in fear, not knowing if familiar buildings from their childhood are going to be still standing come tomorrow, or just a pile of rubble and twisted steel. Still, I expected England to be much better than they were... Edited September 9, 2023 by Northern Red 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) I'm a Southgate supporter. I'm not down with those who just want him out regardless of what we do. Living in some magical world where there's this super coach we should be employing instead, but he really didn't help himself tonight by playing Maguire (not playing for his club) and Henderson (playing in retirement league). Saying that i put a lot of the blame on today's last lustre performance on the players. Too many poor performances. Edited September 9, 2023 by Show Me The Money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 I'll take a point but England were to slow in passing the ball. Will need to do much better if England are to beat the Scots. They are on a roll and are not to be underestimated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Show Me The Money! said: I'm a Southgate supporter. I'm not down with those who just want him out regardless of what we do. Living in some magical world where there's this super coach we should be employing instead, but he really didn't help himself tonight by playing Maguire (not playing for his club and Henderson (playing in retirement league). Saying that i put a lot of the blame on today's last lustre performance on the players. Too many poor performances. The scapegoating , jump on , and noise around Maguire is tedious IMHO he had a decent game and a better performance than some of his much acclaimed team mates 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Won’t win anything under Southgate 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: I'll take a point but England were to slow in passing the ball. Will need to do much better if England are to beat the Scots. They are on a roll and are not to be underestimated. Yep, a point is fine but the way Southgate goes about it reeks of caution for me. Playing Henderson and Rice for the whole 90 and bringing on Gallagher for Saka near the end tells you everything about the general mindset of the management/coaching staff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 The Maguire selection was understandable given that Stones and Mings are out and he wants an experienced figure in there. Him not playing for his club isn't a situation that can continue long term though and to be fair Southgate has said as much. Absolutely wouldn't have started Henderson though. That smacks of him being picked to justify his inclusion in the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Northern Red said: The Maguire selection was understandable given that Stones and Mings are out and he wants an experienced figure in there. Him not playing for his club isn't a situation that can continue long term though and to be fair Southgate has said as much. Absolutely wouldn't have started Henderson though. That smacks of him being picked to justify his inclusion in the squad. People won’t like it , but , especially considering his England performances , other than Stones I can’t see a better centre back to pick as it stands Mings nowhere near him , or International class ,IMHO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Northern Red said: The Maguire selection was understandable given that Stones and Mings are out and he wants an experienced figure in there. Him not playing for his club isn't a situation that can continue long term though and to be fair Southgate has said as much. Absolutely wouldn't have started Henderson though. That smacks of him being picked to justify his inclusion in the squad. To me the Henderson selection smacks of "I'm in charge" which he is but if you make those decisions and then put in a bang average attacking performance against a side who started out to get a 0-0 draw but was able to make one of their two shots in 90 minutes count then you can't moan when you are under scrutiny for it............and he will be which is completely unnecessary. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, The Coach said: Won’t win anything under Southgate Who would we win anything under? The only candidate I can see out there is Graham Potter Lots of England fans clearly have short memories, before Southgate we had an absolute fractious squad who had no togetherness and completely froze at the big stage. Remember the Iceland game under Hodgson? Getting knocked out in the group in 2014 world cup? Shocking performances which are light years away from where we are now. We have a decent squad but to say it's full of world class players is pushing it. We have no depth in many positions hence having to rely on players not being involved in their teams. If Kane gets injured we have Wilson who doesn't start for Newcastle or Nketiah a back up for Arsenal. Edited September 9, 2023 by !james 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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