Possible Vestegaard handball at 0-0?

[Mr Popodopolous]

Apologies if already posted. If so feel free to merge etc.

Watching the highlights, yay or nay?

[W-S-M Seagull]

According to the rules that's handball. 

[Lrrr]

I’m not sure if it hits him below the sleeve roll tbh 

[bexhill reds]

Handball to my mind, it is had not of hit his arm I think the ball would have rolled to the oncoming striker. Ref was never going to give it though, he was giving Leicester soft stuff all afternoon, so would not be giving us anything vaguely contentious.

[W-S-M Seagull]

Does he move his arm towards the ball? Yes

Does he make his body unnaturally bigger? Yes

Therefor it's a penalty. 

 

[Northern Red]

I'd be furious if that was given against us.

[Jose]

12 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

I'd be furious if that was given against us.

My thoughts exactly. It’s not a penalty. 

[downendcity]

59 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Does he move his arm towards the ball? Yes

Does he make his body unnaturally bigger? Yes

 

 

Is it against Bristol City? Yes

Therefore no penalty!

[redkev]

1 hour ago, Jose said:

My thoughts exactly. It’s not a penalty. 

It would be given against us though wouldnt it , no matter how furious you would be 

take a look at the Luton pen against Wolves

[Ostrich]

[transfer reader]

No pen

Only point I think it hits his arm/hand under the sleeve line is when his hand is extended as he's falling to the ground.

I don't think you can call putting your arms out to protect yourself on a fall an unnatural position.

After that when it rolls it definitely hits his other upper arm, but on the sleeve and so in an area where it is allowed.

 

That said at the time I thought it was one from the camera angle.

[1960maaan]

Arm out, ball seems to bounce off of his fist. If the Ref sees it, or it's the other end Pen 

[DaveF]

Would have been a rather harsh pen.

[Davefevs]

Not a penalty.

Anyone thinking it is would have to go back to Vyner’s against PNE and Tuesday v Plymouth and give those too.

[Norn Iron]

30 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Not a penalty.

Anyone thinking it is would have to go back to Vyner’s against PNE and Tuesday v Plymouth and give those too.

Dave,

since when has logic become part of OTIB?

 

 

[Mr Popodopolous]

His arms wasn't in a natural position but I suppose we had one or two contentious ones in our favour arguably this season.

Thinking the long game though, our ratio is unbelievably poor- seem to be held to a different threshold albeit for a time our underlying attacking numbers wwre also dreadful which helped to explain it.

[transfer reader]

Just now, Mr Popodopolous said:

His arms wasn't in a natural position but I suppose we had one or two contentious ones in our favour arguably this season.

Thinking the long game though, our ratio is unbelievably poor- seem to be held to a different threshold albeit for a time our underlying attacking numbers wwre also dreadful which helped to explain it.

He's falling to the ground, his arm being extended is 100% natural.

When it goes across his other arm it doesn't hit anywhere that's classed as a handball.

[Mr Popodopolous]

7 minutes ago, transfer reader said:

He's falling to the ground, his arm being extended is 100% natural.

When it goes across his other arm it doesn't hit anywhere that's classed as a handball.

I suppose having watched it back multiple times, I'd be quite dismayed if roles reversed and it was aqadxed again at us.

[RedorDead BCFC]

None of our players were shouting about either were they?

[Super]

That's not a pen. Laughable. 

[maxjak]

15 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Apologies if already posted. If so feel free to merge etc.

Watching the highlights, yay or nay?

Sorry ....but to me, that it desperately clutching at straws......Never a penalty IMO.

[Mr Popodopolous]

Just now, maxjak said:

Sorry ....but to me, that it desperately clutching at straws......Never a penalty IMO.

Not a surprise some of us may clutch a bit given our penalty record! 

However yes it doesn't seem like one having watched a few times.

[W-S-M Seagull]

14 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Not a surprise some of us may clutch a bit given our penalty record! 

However yes it doesn't seem like one having watched a few times.

I think it is. 

We as fans may not consider it to be handball, however the laws of the game would. VAR gives it for that reason. 

 

[redkev]

3 hours ago, Super said:

That's not a pen. Laughable. 

Most pens given nowadays for handball are laughable though I go back to the Luton pen against wolves how the fxxk is that a pen 

[redkev]

30 minutes ago, maxjak said:

Sorry ....but to me, that it desperately clutching at straws......Never a penalty IMO.

Sorry I will clutch at as many straws as I can to get my team points ,  other teams players and fans do it , said it many a time we’re a soft touch even though I think that is slowly changing 

[Fammyfan]

As much as I would have loved it given to get the penalty, in my view, the correct decision was made not to give it as it would have been soft and would hate that given against us

Edited September 24, 2023 by Fammyfan

[redkev]

3 minutes ago, Fammyfan said:

As much as I would have loved it given to get the penalty, in my view, the correct decision was made not to give it as it would have been soft and would hate that given against us

We’ve had plenty like that given against us down the years my friend 

[bcfc01]

Incredibly harsh to give a penalty for that, defender couldn't get out of the way - but I've no doubt VAR would have given it.

 

 

[Mr Popodopolous]

I always ask the question. Would it have been given at the other end

That can often be quite a useful guide.

[Rocking Red Cyril]

19 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

I always ask the question. Would it have been given at the other end

That can often be quite a useful guide.

Surely the end of the ground an insistent happens should not effect the decision