Mr Popodopolous Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 Apologies if already posted. If so feel free to merge etc. Watching the highlights, yay or nay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 According to the rules that's handball. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 I’m not sure if it hits him below the sleeve roll tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 Handball to my mind, it is had not of hit his arm I think the ball would have rolled to the oncoming striker. Ref was never going to give it though, he was giving Leicester soft stuff all afternoon, so would not be giving us anything vaguely contentious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 Does he move his arm towards the ball? Yes Does he make his body unnaturally bigger? Yes Therefor it's a penalty. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 I'd be furious if that was given against us. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, Northern Red said: I'd be furious if that was given against us. My thoughts exactly. It’s not a penalty. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 59 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Does he move his arm towards the ball? Yes Does he make his body unnaturally bigger? Yes Is it against Bristol City? Yes Therefore no penalty! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Jose said: My thoughts exactly. It’s not a penalty. It would be given against us though wouldnt it , no matter how furious you would be take a look at the Luton pen against Wolves 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ostrich Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transfer reader Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 No pen Only point I think it hits his arm/hand under the sleeve line is when his hand is extended as he's falling to the ground. I don't think you can call putting your arms out to protect yourself on a fall an unnatural position. After that when it rolls it definitely hits his other upper arm, but on the sleeve and so in an area where it is allowed. That said at the time I thought it was one from the camera angle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 Arm out, ball seems to bounce off of his fist. If the Ref sees it, or it's the other end Pen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 Would have been a rather harsh pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 Not a penalty. Anyone thinking it is would have to go back to Vyner’s against PNE and Tuesday v Plymouth and give those too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 30 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Not a penalty. Anyone thinking it is would have to go back to Vyner’s against PNE and Tuesday v Plymouth and give those too. Dave, since when has logic become part of OTIB? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 His arms wasn't in a natural position but I suppose we had one or two contentious ones in our favour arguably this season. Thinking the long game though, our ratio is unbelievably poor- seem to be held to a different threshold albeit for a time our underlying attacking numbers wwre also dreadful which helped to explain it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transfer reader Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 Just now, Mr Popodopolous said: His arms wasn't in a natural position but I suppose we had one or two contentious ones in our favour arguably this season. Thinking the long game though, our ratio is unbelievably poor- seem to be held to a different threshold albeit for a time our underlying attacking numbers wwre also dreadful which helped to explain it. He's falling to the ground, his arm being extended is 100% natural. When it goes across his other arm it doesn't hit anywhere that's classed as a handball. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, transfer reader said: He's falling to the ground, his arm being extended is 100% natural. When it goes across his other arm it doesn't hit anywhere that's classed as a handball. I suppose having watched it back multiple times, I'd be quite dismayed if roles reversed and it was aqadxed again at us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 None of our players were shouting about either were they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 That's not a pen. Laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 15 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Apologies if already posted. If so feel free to merge etc. Watching the highlights, yay or nay? Sorry ....but to me, that it desperately clutching at straws......Never a penalty IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 Just now, maxjak said: Sorry ....but to me, that it desperately clutching at straws......Never a penalty IMO. Not a surprise some of us may clutch a bit given our penalty record! However yes it doesn't seem like one having watched a few times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Not a surprise some of us may clutch a bit given our penalty record! However yes it doesn't seem like one having watched a few times. I think it is. We as fans may not consider it to be handball, however the laws of the game would. VAR gives it for that reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Super said: That's not a pen. Laughable. Most pens given nowadays for handball are laughable though I go back to the Luton pen against wolves how the fxxk is that a pen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 30 minutes ago, maxjak said: Sorry ....but to me, that it desperately clutching at straws......Never a penalty IMO. Sorry I will clutch at as many straws as I can to get my team points , other teams players and fans do it , said it many a time we’re a soft touch even though I think that is slowly changing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fammyfan Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) As much as I would have loved it given to get the penalty, in my view, the correct decision was made not to give it as it would have been soft and would hate that given against us Edited September 24, 2023 by Fammyfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Fammyfan said: As much as I would have loved it given to get the penalty, in my view, the correct decision was made not to give it as it would have been soft and would hate that given against us We’ve had plenty like that given against us down the years my friend 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted September 24, 2023 Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 Incredibly harsh to give a penalty for that, defender couldn't get out of the way - but I've no doubt VAR would have given it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2023 I always ask the question. Would it have been given at the other end That can often be quite a useful guide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted September 25, 2023 Report Share Posted September 25, 2023 19 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I always ask the question. Would it have been given at the other end That can often be quite a useful guide. Surely the end of the ground an insistent happens should not effect the decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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