Mr Popodopolous Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) Surprisingly perhaps or surprisingly not, they have said that neither the Sykes or Pring challenges in their view were penalties. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/pgmol-bristol-city-stoke-penalty-8802058 I certainly thought the Pring one was. Edited October 3, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 Would love to know the various reasons they gave, that Phlegm alluded to, but couldn’t give full detail on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) Haven't seen the Press Conference yet, article mentioned foot to foot with Sykes based on the article but the Pring one is a low level assault! Well maybe not assault and perhaps it depends on angle but arm in the face? Edited October 3, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_bristol Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) Not really good enough. They need to explain specifically and without sparing any detail, exactly where in the laws you’re allowed to forearm smash someone in the neck. Edited October 3, 2023 by luke_bristol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) 1 Home League penalty in 35 months, ie November 1st 2020 to September 30th 2023. That was vs Hull in February. Or 1 in 69 Home League games to put it another way... Edited October 3, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 9 hours ago, luke_bristol said: Not really good enough. They need to explain specifically and without sparing any detail, exactly where in the laws you’re allowed to forearm smash someone in the neck. I’ll explain it specifically without sparing detail - it’s because we’re little old Bristol City there you go that wasn’t hard was it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 So the Sykes challenge , because it was boot to boot , was not a Pen. So, a challenge, by a defender, which he has no contact with the ball but his boot has contact with the strikers boot ? AKA Trip ? I want to see the same explanation saying Prings was, elbow to throat and so does not constitute a Pen as it was clearly against Bristol City 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 The Sykes one I can sort of understand, certainly seen them given but I don't think it's a howler not to. How they don't give the Pring one though.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 It's one thing to miss it or whatever but the PGMOL backing it, well the Pring one especially the rationale is hard to fathom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 Am going to restart a little project I begun last season, penalty to shot ratio over x seasons at this level. Shots are an important attacking metric, not the sole one of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 2 hours ago, 1960maaan said: So the Sykes challenge , because it was boot to boot , was not a Pen. So, a challenge, by a defender, which he has no contact with the ball but his boot has contact with the strikers boot ? AKA Trip ? I want to see the same explanation saying Prings was, elbow to throat and so does not constitute a Pen as it was clearly against Bristol City When a player has their heel clipped it's usually a free kick. I've said before that a player renowned for "winning" penalties will be awarded them by the officials without a moments thought. The match officials supposedly talk to each other, perhaps they could release the conversations. Sometimes the linesmen appear to be frightened to do anything! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Midred said: The match officials supposedly talk to each other, perhaps they could release the conversations. Sometimes the linesmen appear to be frightened to do anything! ...Except disallow our goals for infringements! Swansea away in March, I can't remember if there was one. Reading at home x 2 Stoke away, blinded by the sun would you believe! Hull away a flag that was rather late. Swansea away x 3. 7 Or 8? Edit- just checked. Weimann definitely had one disallowed for offside at Swansea in March. Edited October 4, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 I was mystified in the Stoke match when fouls right in front of the linesmen on either weren't even flagged. Are some referees so arrogant that they don't want any interferance from their assistants? (Yes I know that they're all above board according to some on otib!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, Midred said: I was mystified in the Stoke match when fouls right in front of the linesmen on either weren't even flagged. Are some referees so arrogant that they don't want any interferance from their assistants? (Yes I know that they're all above board according to some on otib!) They don’t need to flag, because they are mic’d up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 13 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: 1 Home League penalty in 35 months, ie November 1st 2020 to September 30th 2023. That was vs Hull in February. Or 1 in 69 Home League games to put it another way... Box entries. Not enough, need more. Plus, better simulation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 41 minutes ago, Midred said: Sometimes the linesmen appear to be frightened to do anything! I hope they do actually work as a team and not the Ref being a Prima donna like it has been in the past. It should be a team, they can talk constantly through the game now. In theory it should make things so much easier to get decisions right. I would love to hear what they said during the Sykes one, the Lino should have had a clear view of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 Just saw this on Twitter. If the post is right , then this was ignored and Millwall scored after. What chance for Pring, this isn't in the box so the "given anywhere else argument" doesn't work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 Are they selective on contact? If it is a contact threshold thing and I accept thst this isn't the sole criteria then all 3 of Leicester's this season had less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 I wonder what angle or footage they saw. The Pring one I saw what I presume was a supporter's footage from the south stand and from that angle there seemed no doubt it was a pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, 1960maaan said: Just saw this on Twitter. If the post is right , then this was ignored and Millwall scored after. What chance for Pring, this isn't in the box so the "given anywhere else argument" doesn't work. WWF rules now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: They don’t need to flag, because they are mic’d up. Perhaps they need to be consistant then as they usually flag when an opposition player falls over when we're getting near to their penalty area. Again that's why it would help to hear what they're.saying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 Nevermind "miking up refs" they should "dashcam" them, so we can see what they see from their position. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS13 Robin Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Port Said Red said: Nevermind "miking up refs" they should "dashcam" them, so we can see what they see from their position. Body cams that would be good! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 9 hours ago, 1960maaan said: So the Sykes challenge , because it was boot to boot , was not a Pen. So, a challenge, by a defender, which he has no contact with the ball but his boot has contact with the strikers boot ? AKA Trip ? I want to see the same explanation saying Prings was, elbow to throat and so does not constitute a Pen as it was clearly against Bristol City Yet Diaz got his first yellow for the slightest of touches knee to boot to cause a trip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 Will be interested to see how they explain the rugby tackle in the penalty area on Sam Bell tonight or if Nige is sent yet another apology for the lack of a penalty being awarded. The EFL highlights showed at least 3 different angles and clearly the defender just pulls him down while Sam is trying to get to the ball to shoot at goal. But the referee and assistant referee apparently saw nothing wrong with that. Amazing! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 And while they are at it, the Begovic sending off at Leeds tonight needs to be rescinded. No evidence he ever touched Bamford, who instead should be banned for simulation. But you know it won’t happen… 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtongreight Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 6 hours ago, BS13 Robin said: Body cams that would be good! Nah, they’ll probably just turn it off and the footage will mysteriously go missing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denbury Red Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 The rugby tackle on Dickie was more clear cut than the one on Bell!! Both clear pens! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 56 minutes ago, Denbury Red said: The rugby tackle on Dickie was more clear cut than the one on Bell!! Both clear pens! Been trying to find a clip of the Dickie rugby tackle, no luck so far. How the Ref ignored that I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 42 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Been trying to find a clip of the Dickie rugby tackle, no luck so far. How the Ref ignored that I don't know. Because he was awful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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