Barrs Court Red Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 54 minutes ago, Cristored said: Well you’re very wrong, please do tell my name and job role? Jon’s carer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherrich Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: This is my concern. That everything gets ripped up and we start again. That's not what we need. It was stated that whoever we brought in would need to fit into this structure and I have my concerns that this may not be the case with Manning. We have been through 3-4 years of absolute crap to get our squad to where it is now. I'd say this is one of the best squads we've ever had in terms of quality and mentality. We don't need revolution, we don't even need evolution. We just need enhancement. My worry is that Manning is going to recieve LJ levels of support and then we are back to where we started. You can hear the excuses already about him not having the right players to play his system and that alone shows this could be the wrong appointment. We don't need to recruit and give him time to recruit for his preferred system. He needs to work with what he has got. This has the potential to go very wrong very quickly and that concerns me. Time will tell. But I agree. Which is why the Lansdownes need to sell up asap. How many more mistakes will they make? My patience wore out ages ago. There track record is quite honestly pretty crap. Hope this is not another one to add to the long list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartolona Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 The Lansdowns won’t allow this to fail. I’m expecting the wallet to come out in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 We didn't give Pearson a press conference did we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 Well after reading and watching a lot of stuff on him, reading varying opinions on here and the Oxford forum, I've got a good feeling about this appointment. He's an interesting guy to learn about. Get used to hearing the word principles a lot. Welcome and good luck Liam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedred31 Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 If this works- and it may- I think it’s fair to say we’ll be very happy and, honestly, a bit surprised. If this doesn’t work- and our history suggests it may well not- I won’t be particularly surprised and, honestly, pretty resigned to disappointment. Such is the reality of the last ten years or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, bartolona said: The Lansdowns won’t allow this to fail. I’m expecting the wallet to come out in January. And that's my concern. If he doesn't start off well and the pressure is on in Jan, he'll recieve LJ levels of support because we have that "nest egg" If those players are on the level of LJ signings then we then have 2-3 years of trying to get rid of them and getting the squad back to the current shape it is in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 Good luck to him, I suspect he’ll need it as he enters a difficult situation, mainly due to fan reaction. 2 minutes ago, bartolona said: The Lansdowns won’t allow this to fail. I’m expecting the wallet to come out in January. I suspect this too, which will feel like an extra slap in the face to Pearson. He may end up an excellent head coach for us, and I of course hope he does, but I’d suggest he also kind of needs to succeed now (by which I mean immediately) or the whole end of the Pearson era and the reasoning for it will hang over him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotswoldred2 Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said: Jon’s carer? How insulting? You come over as a piece of work.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 51 minutes ago, Philly The Kid said: I'm sure I heard on Talksport a while ago that the standard was one year's salary on termination. Obviously this can probably vary in an upward direction but I'm sure some bloke from the LMA said it was a years money. The LMA themselves state that there is no standard manager contract “template”. And I’m probably being pedantic re your use of the word “standard”, when it might be better to say it’s “often” 1 year. Not that I’m great with words! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizzleRed Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said: Jon’s carer? Or crayon monitor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeRandomBristolian Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 Although I do think getting rid of Pearson was the wrong decision, as I really thought we were making good solid progress under him, with him working in very difficult circumstances with regards to budget, FFP and player sales. I do hope the gamble to appoint Liam Manning Pays off. Only time will tell I guess, lets see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: The LMA themselves state that there is no standard manager contract “template”. And I’m probably being pedantic re your use of the word “standard”, when it might be better to say it’s “often” 1 year. Not that I’m great with words! Sorry Fevs, don’t understand what you are trying to say 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 hours ago, johnheadbcfc said: I'm a forum reader from the early 2000s but as I get older I enjoy debating more I agree there's nothing like a mass debate :laugh:. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 I knew I'd seen him somewhere before 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: This is my concern. That everything gets ripped up and we start again. That's not what we need. It was stated that whoever we brought in would need to fit into this structure and I have my concerns that this may not be the case with Manning. We have been through 3-4 years of absolute crap to get our squad to where it is now. I'd say this is one of the best squads we've ever had in terms of quality and mentality. We don't need revolution, we don't even need evolution. We just need enhancement. My worry is that Manning is going to recieve LJ levels of support and then we are back to where we started. You can hear the excuses already about him not having the right players to play his system and that alone shows this could be the wrong appointment. We don't need to recruit and give him time to recruit for his preferred system. He needs to work with what he has got. This has the potential to go very wrong very quickly and that concerns me. He's not LJ, MA isnt here, SL's purse string won't be as open as they were in the bad old days. He's clearly got decent coaching ability, and his no 2 is a trusted experienced pro, so can you give them a break, and just see what happens, eh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: And that's my concern. If he doesn't start off well and the pressure is on in Jan, he'll recieve LJ levels of support because we have that "nest egg" If those players are on the level of LJ signings then we then have 2-3 years of trying to get rid of them and getting the squad back to the current shape it is in. Can we stop comparing managers to LJ, it’s really weird. Judge people on their own merits rather than being lazy and comparing them to previous managers. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 42 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: People are somewhat underwhelmed and sceptical would perhaps be a reason why. Had one of our championship rivals appointed Manning, how many of those underwhelmed and sceptical fans would be saying that this is just the sort of young, forward thinking coach was should be after? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said: He's not LJ, MA isnt here, SL's purse string won't be as open as they were in the bad old days. He's clearly got decent coaching ability, and his no 2 is a trusted experienced pro, so can you give them a break, and just see what happens, eh? Can we respect that others have different opinions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just now, downendcity said: Had one of our championship rivals appointed Manning, how many of those underwhelmed and sceptical fans would be saying that this is just the sort of young, forward thinking coach was should be I don't think many football fans have heard of him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotswoldred2 Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, BrizzleRed said: Or crayon monitor I just don't have the words to express how much I like this post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, Malago said: I think sacking Nige was a huge mistake, but that’s water under Mann can do better than that I’ll be pleased. COYR. Jimmy Mann, now youre talking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookEnd Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 Just watched the interview, reminded me alot of SOD with his "process's and outcomes" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 I make that my 23rd appointed full time, not caretaker/interim manager as an attending City fan. If you started supporting City between Oct 1967 and September 1980 you’ll have the same number as me, such was the longevity of Alan Dicks. The first man on that list took us to the top, good luck Liam, here’s hoping you become the next. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said: Can we stop comparing managers to LJ, it’s really weird. Judge people on their own merits rather than being lazy and comparing them to previous managers. It's not weird. It's weird that you think it's weird. It's not comparing him to LJ, it's comparing a head coach appointment vs another head coach appointment. The head coach vanity project that has failed on multiple occasions. Maybe this time it will be different. History tells me it won't be tho. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Randy Marsh II said: Maybe he knows his limitations and has taken the money while he can? Would join a long list of City appointments to have done the same. Peter principle... How much due diligence have we done? And I don't mean Tinnion watching Oxford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, GrumpyGit said: I hope The Gas overtake you. Now now. That was uncalled for. We might have stolen your head coach but we've not done anything drastic enough to say that. Take it back! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: And that's my concern. If he doesn't start off well and the pressure is on in Jan, he'll recieve LJ levels of support because we have that "nest egg" If those players are on the level of LJ signings then we then have 2-3 years of trying to get rid of them and getting the squad back to the current shape it is in. Why are you making up negative scenarios? Try and be positive about things 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 (edited) His interview is pretty good. I can see why he appealed, lots of buzzwords JL etc would’ve liked. It’s not LJ style waffle, but will take some adjusting after Pearson’s media handling which I think most people enjoyed. Pretty much everything he says in interview covers what JL claimed we wanted - so it’s reassuring that it aligns.. I think. Edited November 7, 2023 by Phileas Fogg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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