AberRed Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) So hands up, after 144 appearances for us, who else had absolutely no idea he was even eligible for Wales? Edited November 12, 2023 by AberRed 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 Hasn't he played in every age group for England bar the seniors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 Has always been available for Wales on football manager games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 First I've heard of it, it seems his grandmother was born in Pontypridd. 1 minute ago, Dredd said: Hasn't he played in every age group for England bar the seniors? Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberRed Posted November 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dredd said: Hasn't he played in every age group for England bar the seniors? He was captain of the 2017 Under-19 Euros winning team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) Good lord the four "nations" thing is stupid. Edited November 12, 2023 by ExiledAjax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 Sums them up ffs 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, AberRed said: So hands up, after 144 appearances for us, who else had absolutely no idea he was even eligible for Wales? Played for England in 6 different age groups. Probably qualified via a great great grandparent or some rubbish. Embarrassing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 44 minutes ago, Bris Red said: Played for England in 6 different age groups. Probably qualified via a great great grandparent or some rubbish. Embarrassing. Not sure why it's 'embarrassing'. I'm English, and if I was a footballer my first choice would obviously be to represent England. However, if that wasn't an option, I'd be delighted to honour my grandparents' memories by representing their country as I know how proud they'd be. 13 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 His brother Cole played for Wales at a few age groups so no huge surprise really. Guess he's given up waiting for the Brazil call-up though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberRed Posted November 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 Tbf the more I think about it I say good luck to him. Can't say I blame him for taking the opportunity to at least put himself in contention to go to the Euros next summer. But it is a little bizarre though considering he has over 50 youth caps for England. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 hour ago, View from the Dolman said: His brother Cole played for Wales at a few age groups so no huge surprise really. Guess he's given up waiting for the Brazil call-up though. Welsh Roberto Carlos, tidy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 Yes, I knew. A good opportunity for him. Probably even fewer people know that Alex Scott is also eligible to play for Wales... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 2 hours ago, petehinton said: Sums them up ffs Joke nation. They’ll accept anyone English to try & bolster their squad. Weird how when we play Cardiff & Swansea they go on about how they hate the English, yet their national team is full of pretend Welshman. 1 minute ago, Kid in the Riot said: Yes, I knew. A good opportunity for him. Probably even fewer people know that Alex Scott is also eligible to play for Wales... Thought it was Northern Ireland? Do Wales actually have eligibility rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 Wales will have the same eligibility rules as everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Joke nation. They’ll accept anyone English to try & bolster their squad. And England steal the cream of the talent that qualifies for any of the others. Because they're all joke nations. Most sensible thing is to just have a UK team and be done with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Yes, I knew. A good opportunity for him. Probably even fewer people know that Alex Scott is also eligible to play for Wales... And France, I would imagine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: And England steal the cream of the talent that qualifies for any of the others. Exactly, Declan Rice being the most obvious recent example. Made 3 senior appearances for the ROI. 5 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Because they're all joke nations. Most sensible thing is to just have a UK team and be done with it. I mean, that's a terrible idea! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTuga Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: Has always been available for Wales on football manager games. Yep, wouldn't have ever known this otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: And England steal the cream of the talent that qualifies for any of the others. Because they're all joke nations. Most sensible thing is to just have a UK team and be done with it. The example given below is Declan Rice, who was born In Kingston-On-Thames. So we “stole” a player who was actually born in England? The only English player of recent times not born here is Raheem Stirling who moved to England when he was 5, went to school here, has lived his entire life here since. Not exactly like trying to use some long often dead grandparent to play football for a country you have no connection with, is it? Wales & the Republic (the latter far more in the past than now, TBF) make a mockery of international football by having a squad where the majority were born in another country, in many cases they have never visited their “home” country unless playing against Cardiff or Swansea. Arsene Wenger once said all professional footballers should declare their nation when signing their first contract at 18 & never change it. Wonder how many “Welsh” players that would leave? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StGeorge Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Wonder how many “Welsh” players that would leave? 2? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 47 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Exactly, Declan Rice being the most obvious recent example. Made 3 senior appearances for the ROI. Not forgetting Jack Grealish. No full age caps, but plenty of age group appearances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said: Yes, I knew. A good opportunity for him. Probably even fewer people know that Alex Scott is also eligible to play for Wales... Isn’t Scott, as a British Isles citizen, eligible for all four British nations? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 57 minutes ago, RobinTuga said: Yep, wouldn't have ever known this otherwise. And certainly Wales never bothered to check when playing for us, but soon as he moves to Cov..........! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 Gets called up for Wales in every football manager I've played last few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 Good luck to him. I do find it weird that lads who have supported England all their life, born and bred here suddenly play for another Country, especially a rival. I would also feel the same way if a Player selected England despite England not being their actual nationality. Sadly, it's more a career choice nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 4 hours ago, AberRed said: So hands up, after 144 appearances for us, who else had absolutely no idea he was even eligible for Wales? Loved the lad as a city player. Really couldn’t give a **** about him now he’s not . Why have you started this thread ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 13 hours ago, elhombrecito said: Not sure why it's 'embarrassing'. I'm English, and if I was a footballer my first choice would obviously be to represent England. However, if that wasn't an option, I'd be delighted to honour my grandparents' memories by representing their country as I know how proud they'd be. Was thinking exactly the same, I'd absolutely represent my grandmother's country. England would be my first choice though 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 12 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: I mean, that's a terrible idea! I'm only replying once, I put this thread on ignore but apparently I still get notifications from an ignored thread. I've debated this topic before and I know I'm in a minority and I know "it won't happen". I've no interest in going over it again on here...although I'd love a debate on it in person over 1 to 7 pints as that would actually be fun. Anyway, I am pro the pooling of the resources of the entire nation, unifying the fans, creating a national team that could play at Hampden, The Millennium Stadium, Wembley, and others, removing the unnecessary competition between parts of a whole and ending up with a team that actually represents a country rather than four that represent cultural regions. I don't see it as a terrible idea at all. Difficult to implement in the face of stubborn and encouraged "nationalism", perhaps yes, but personally I think that doing away with invented antagonism between England/Scotland/Wales and NI would do an awful lot to improve the country as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 12 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: Exactly, Declan Rice being the most obvious recent example. Made 3 senior appearances for the ROI. I mean, that's a terrible idea! If anything Ireland attempted to steal him by giving him a call up first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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