Mr Popodopolous Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 Just now, Harry said: But so were Preston during the same period Brum under Eustace were good. ??? I reckon they would have done better under Eustace, dunno by how much but keep it ticking along and confidence etc can grow. Maybe they wouldn't have maintained 18 pts 11 games type levels, or especially 14 from 6 home games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 Just now, Will Rollason said: Talk sport contributor says Eustace is still on the payroll... common practise apparently... Yep, in effect you can spread the payoff over time if you want. Possible dual advantage is that if manager finds new job then you can (not always as it depends but can) stop paying them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 2 Admin Report Share Posted January 2 18 minutes ago, Will Rollason said: Talk sport contributor says Eustace is still on the payroll... common practise apparently... Someone with a greater knowledge will know, but wasn't there a time where we were paying off three managers we had sacked? Was thinking around the Stoke final season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Rollason Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 28 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Yep, in effect you can spread the payoff over time if you want. Possible dual advantage is that if manager finds new job then you can (not always as it depends but can) stop paying them. Amoritisation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 Just now, Will Rollason said: Amoritisation? Nah….only relates to transfer fees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 2 Author Report Share Posted January 2 7 minutes ago, phantom said: Someone with a greater knowledge will know, but wasn't there a time where we were paying off three managers we had sacked? Was thinking around the Stoke final season It’s likely. At the time of the Stoke game we were managed by the triumvirate headed up by Tony Fawthrop, who was made permanent but didn’t ever manage a game as full time boss as Wilson took over (compensation to Fawthrop). Preceding TF was Pulis who went to Pompey (no compensation to Pulis) who took over from Benny (time on contract left - compensation due) who took over from Ward (although he shouldn’t have as he threw his toys, compensation due) So in the period from about October 98- July 00 we had 5 managers (including Wilson), three of which we were paying compensation to. And as I’ve now mentioned several ex managers, I await the thread being moved accordingly. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 34 minutes ago, BS15_RED said: This is why I never want Yanks to ever own our club. Yeah, I bet the likes of Aston Villa, Wrexham, Portsmouth, Plymouth, Bournemouth, Liverpool and our friends from the weekend Millwall are all gutted about their American owners! Such a blinkered view 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 This for me was handled incredibly poorly. 1. Sacking a manager for “no fear football” only to drop from the playoffs to a relegation battle is incredibly clueless 2. A board member saying that you’re going to recruit in order to suit that style and therefore back Rooney and then sack him shortly after is utterly bizarre. I agree with sacking him but the way it was handled was awful, interested to see who they get in next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Rollason Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 32 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I reckon they would have done better under Eustace, dunno by how much but keep it ticking along and confidence etc can grow. Maybe they wouldn't have maintained 18 pts 11 games type levels, or especially 14 from 6 home games. Maybe not, we'll never know if course but I reckon it's unlikely. We often hear about how in the champ anyone can beat anyone else and what a tough division it is but really, apart from Ipswich on a roll after promotion, most of us could have guessed the top six as it is. Not to say that's how it will end and we amongst many others may make a run but broadly speaking the bigger clubs will come out on top over the course of a season by squad size/ depth if nothing else. Luton are an outlier though aren't they... and that's the magic of the play offs.. over 3 games all that goes out the window.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Rollason Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 3 minutes ago, Charlie BCFC said: This for me was handled incredibly poorly. 1. Sacking a manager for “no fear football” only to drop from the playoffs to a relegation battle is incredibly clueless 2. A board member saying that you’re going to recruit in order to suit that style and therefore back Rooney and then sack him shortly after is utterly bizarre. I agree with sacking him but the way it was handled was awful, interested to see who they get in next Take a brave board to watch them slip into a relegation battle backing a man with his track record in management so far. Shame, I like him but maybe he needs to learn his trade somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Did Barton play for England? If he did it must have passed me by. …..like most things 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 49 minutes ago, Charlie BCFC said: This for me was handled incredibly poorly. 1. Sacking a manager for “no fear football” only to drop from the playoffs to a relegation battle is incredibly clueless 2. A board member saying that you’re going to recruit in order to suit that style and therefore back Rooney and then sack him shortly after is utterly bizarre. I agree with sacking him but the way it was handled was awful, interested to see who they get in next Guess we have something in common with them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 Think Barton played in a win over Spain iirc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Think Barton played in a win over Spain iirc Brought on for the last ten minutes, which was his one and only appearance for England. I’m speaking from memory, but I think he might have replaced Lampard (or perhaps Rooney?). Edited January 2 by PHILINFRANCE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 Steep learning curve for Brady. Big names not always winning prizes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 3 hours ago, Super said: Pot and kettle here, Gary. Whilst I don’t agree with it - freedom of speech right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 Birmingham owners want “No fear, attacking football”. Is that the same thing as the so-called “front foot football” that we’re not getting? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 55 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said: Birmingham owners want “No fear, attacking football”. Is that the same thing as the so-called “front foot football” that we’re not getting? All just silly jargon. Give me plain speaking a la Brian Clough or ………..(fill this in for yourselves!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, Bazooka Joe said: Birmingham owners want “No fear, attacking football”. Is that the same thing as the so-called “front foot football” that we’re not getting? They hadn’t counted on all the attacking football coming from the opposition. ( an honourable exception being Liam Manning’s Threshing Machine) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, Bazooka Joe said: Birmingham owners want “No fear, attacking football”. Is that the same thing as the so-called “front foot football” that we’re not getting? What Birmingham owners and Tom Brady wanted was " a name", that's the truth of it. Somebody needs to ask our Director of Football (he's the "main man" in charge of the football operation after all) how we turn our current squad of players into a front foot team - whatever that actually means. We seem to hear a lot of soundbites from the hierarchy with no "detailed" explanation ("see you in the Prem" on X being the latest nonsense). I'm sure if you went up to Liam Manning in the pub and said "why aren't we playing front foot football Liam?" he would give you a very reasonable response.........and possibly an abrupt two word response too if you caught him at a bad time!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open End Numb Legs Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, Bazooka Joe said: Birmingham owners want “No fear, attacking football”. Is that the same thing as the so-called “front foot football” that we’re not getting? Sounds as though Rooney was happy to park the bus for a few games, get some points and build from there. No point in playing with no fear if you are going to get stuffed 4-0. Then the transfer window intervened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 From their forum; https://www.smallheathalliance.com/ Many hoping for Cooper or Mowbray. If its a project. Then it's Graham PotterPage: 123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, Numero Uno said: I'm sure if you went up to Liam Manning in the pub and said "why aren't we playing front foot football Liam?" I go to the pub to have fun. It's one of my principles. Rather have a pint with bloody Lee Johnson. Edited January 2 by Merrick's Marvels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 2 Author Report Share Posted January 2 2 hours ago, Numero Uno said: I'm sure if you went up to Liam Manning in the pub and said "why aren't we playing front foot football Liam?" he would give you a very reasonable response.........and possibly an abrupt two word response too if you caught him at a bad time!! I think he’d talk me through the process of ordering a drink, asking the barman to nearly pass me my whisky and complete the transaction before said barman then passed the drink back to the barmaid, who would then decant the drink back into the bottle before pouring it again and restarting the process. As I bemoaned my lack of drink, Liam would tell me not to get too emotional and then give me a history of whisky before apologising for overloading me with information. I’d then walk out of the pub somewhat dazed and having felt I hadn’t achieved anything, despite an xDrink level of 12 shorts. However, despite my lack of drink I could point to some fantastic stats in support of possession of my money, as I ultimately see the buying of a drink as cat and mouse and that’s the most important thing. Or something like that. 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 5 hours ago, frenchred said: Guess we have something in common with them! Guess so in regards to false expectations from above but in regards to points returns there is a huge drop off from Eustace to Rooney! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 I don't know how legit this is and probably won't last long online I suspect but.... https://twitter.com/WorldClasstamp/status/1742285466869670365 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 2 minutes ago, Markthehorn said: I don't know how legit this is and probably won't last long online I suspect but.... https://twitter.com/WorldClasstamp/status/1742285466869670365 Referring to this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 8 hours ago, Harry said: Whilst on the face of it I’d agree, but what’s to say that Birmingham didn’t simply revert to type? We saw Preston have a record breaking start to the season and they’ve suddenly gone 2-1-7 in the last 10. Rooney is 2-3-5 (ie better than PNE). Lowe is still at Preston presiding over the worsening results. What’s to say Eustace wouldn’t have also slid off? We’ll never know. Isn't that what we have now done? Reverted to type. Despite us now being "well coached" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Alligator Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 I reckon the FA have some sort of "cunning plan" to try and produce a young English manager to go on and lead the national team to world domination. Hence the on going recycling of the seemingly hapless Messrs Lampard, Rooney - and of course Johnson - at club level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said: I think he’d talk me through the process of ordering a drink, asking the barman to nearly pass me my whisky and complete the transaction before said barman then passed the drink back to the barmaid, who would then decant the drink back into the bottle before pouring it again and restarting the process. As I bemoaned my lack of drink, Liam would tell me not to get too emotional and then give me a history of whisky before apologising for overloading me with information. I’d then walk out of the pub somewhat dazed and having felt I hadn’t achieved anything, despite an xDrink level of 12 shorts. However, despite my lack of drink I could point to some fantastic stats in support of possession of my money, as I ultimately see the buying of a drink as cat and mouse and that’s the most important thing. Or something like that. He sounds like my kind of drinking buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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