Mr Popodopolous Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 Just now, Barrs Court Red said: The Atyeo is not getting redeveloped unless City somehow have sustained period at the top of the table. Yes that also feels likely agreed. Trying to square the circle of what we want vs the multiple conflicting requirements isn't easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 2 hours ago, Barrs Court Red said: What can they moan about? That is what was in the original plan, likewise the Dolman lower. It (standing at the back or front of the South Stand) was included in some preliminary sketches of the stand. However, this had been dropped by the time the stand was built and supporters bought their tickets. If the back few rows were converted to standing any supporter sitting there who didn’t want to stand would be entitled to most 2 hours ago, Port Said Red said: Do people still believe this is a thing? Buying the houses behind the Atyeo - no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 Moving Bristol City fans around Ashton Gate in the hope of transforming the atmosphere, is akin to moving the deck chairs around the Titanic in the hope of making it to New York. Wherever we are in the ground v Watford we just will not be as excited as we were against West Ham. If City fans were to be in the Atyeo tomorrow the atmosphere will not be as good as Tuesday, even if we win 2:0 or 3:0. It's what's happening on the pitch that either revs people up or sends them to the concourse/their phones. Tuesday's agricultural, up and at -em, old-school, get in to 'um **** 'em up style football alongside the slaying of a PL club, plus being under the lights, is (part of) what makes an atmosphere. Watford at home, with (probably), lots of technical possession football amongst the cbs and midfield around the middle of the pitch, does not an atmosphere make. Not even with us in the Atyeo. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said: Moving Bristol City fans around Ashton Gate in the hope of transforming the atmosphere, is akin to moving the deck chairs around the Titanic in the hope of making it to New York. Wherever we are in the ground v Watford we just will not be as excited as we were against West Ham. If City fans were to be in the Atyeo tomorrow the atmosphere will not be as good as Tuesday, even if we win 2:0 or 3:0. It's what's happening on the pitch that either revs people up or sends them to the concourse/their phones. Tuesday's agricultural, up and at -em, old-school, get in to 'um **** 'em up style football alongside the slaying of a PL club, plus being under the lights, is (part of) what makes an atmosphere. Watford at home, with (probably), lots of technical possession football amongst the cbs and midfield around the middle of the pitch, does not an atmosphere make. Not even with us in the Atyeo. Seems a bit reductive IMO, Watford at home last season just before the International break was quite a good atmosphere for one. Who was the player who was deemed to be faking it, injury time and time wasting wise got a proper reception and send-off from the Dolman. A few things did contribute to the better than average atmosphere for such a game. Edited January 19 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 Specific games aside, one thing that I wonder whether we missed a trick on was the lack of Safe Standing in E34. There was an organic and fledgling movement. (Pedant alert- People may refer to it as A Block but that refers to the Upper. In pre redevelopment terms, E34 comprises A Block and H Block). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hxj Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 5 hours ago, 1960maaan said: “We think this will greatly improve the atmosphere, and really help the team." Isn't this something which LJ suggested and was roundly mocked for on here for saying it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedsHeadIs Red Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 I was hoping that the game at home to West Ham had put to bed the idea that atmosphere was anything to do with the design of the stadium, where fans are placed and whether the houses behind the Atyeo are bought or not. Just make noise! 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 In all honesty, away fans have the worst stand of the 4. We have several games where less than 1,000 away fans attend yet we still let them take the entire width of the stand. When away allocations are of this number, stick them on the Dolman or Lansdown side of the Atyeo so they cannot be behind the goal itself. You think of the several away games we go to where we are stuffed into a corner, i dont understand why we dont do that to the several teams that bring small numbers. But BCFC have always been too nice, with no real winning mentality at the club ( Nige changed this a little ), so we wont do this at all and we’ll continue to welcome away teams with open arms. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 19 Admin Report Share Posted January 19 3 hours ago, Wedontplayinblue said: The problem is phantom, it’s ok discussing it but what are the genuine options open? Back 10 rows of the south stand? That’s the only thing I think is logically possibly, but I don’t think that would be any improvement and then you’re risking pissing off fans who have sat there for years. The club never had a plan for where “vocal” fans should have gone from the start of redoing Ashton gate. Exactly true, but that's why there are discussions Then it'll get rolled out to the fanbase for feedback 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsKev Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, pongo88 said: It (standing at the back or front of the South Stand) was included in some preliminary sketches of the stand. However, this had been dropped by the time the stand was built and supporters bought their tickets. If the back few rows were converted to standing any supporter sitting there who didn’t want to stand would be entitled to most Buying the houses behind the Atyeo - no. I'll come onto the converting the back few rows, any thoughts to those that may already sit there that may not wish to stand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 2 hours ago, pongo88 said: It (standing at the back or front of the South Stand) was included in some preliminary sketches of the stand. However, this had been dropped by the time the stand was built and supporters bought their tickets. If the back few rows were converted to standing any supporter sitting there who didn’t want to stand would be entitled to most Buying the houses behind the Atyeo - no. It was not - it was pending changes to legislation to facilitate its inclusion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 Give home fans the Atyeo, make it safe-standing and give the fans autonomy to express themselves & put away fans in the nearest adjacent corner of the Lansdown/Dolman and the atmosphere would transform. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 (edited) 2k, rising to 10% of capacity if promoted and what of the 15% FA Cup issue? That's 1/3 of the Dolman minimum or 1/4 od the Lower Lansdown, rising by about 1/3 If promoted and dunno about the FA Cup regs. Edited January 19 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 A topic that has been done to death numerous times the away fans are not going anywhere else 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellist Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 17 hours ago, Hxj said: Isn't this something which LJ suggested and was roundly mocked for on here for saying it? Probably. But he should have known better - it's only in a game full of box entries that the crowd really gets fired up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 21 hours ago, Wedontplayinblue said: The problem is phantom, it’s ok discussing it but what are the genuine options open? Back 10 rows of the south stand? That’s the only thing I think is logically possibly, but I don’t think that would be any improvement and then you’re risking pissing off fans who have sat there for years. The club never had a plan for where “vocal” fans should have gone from the start of redoing Ashton gate. Why is the old Eastend called the South Stand, surely that's the north of the ground? And why was it called the Eastend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said: Why is the old Eastend called the South Stand, surely that's the north of the ground? And why was it called the Eastend! Actually- I take that back- although the Eastend question still stands Edited January 20 by Miah Dennehy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 17 hours ago, EmersonsKev said: I'll come onto the converting the back few rows, any thoughts to those that may already sit there that may not wish to stand? Went on the back row for an evening cup match a few years ago. Never again, it was like sitting in my parents' old kitchen with those bright strip lights just above my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 39 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said: Why is the old Eastend called the South Stand, surely that's the north of the ground? And why was it called the Eastend! You should have also asked about Crackers Corner in the East End, just to confuse matters further. Hopefully, someone will provide a detailed answer, but East End is a bit of a misnomer. Does that answer your question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, PHILINFRANCE said: You should have also asked about Crackers Corner in the East End, just to confuse matters further. Hopefully, someone will provide a detailed answer, but East End is a bit of a misnomer. Does that answer your question? I'd have got a more straight forward answer from Boris Johnson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Lions Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 2 hours ago, Miah Dennehy said: Why is the old Eastend called the South Stand, surely that's the north of the ground? And why was it called the Eastend! Faces south east slightly. There was a terraced corner that followed eastwards round to the stand that was there before the Dolman the no 2/Cowshed and fans named the east end after the south east part. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 You may be interested in this... https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/25385136/premier-league-stadium-southampton-championship-russell-martin/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunfootballfacebook010224&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3sbI8d-k4LBaxGi4HsB6rpyHgzzhYheMvKImE6wFTr4u0wPAgasqoU2nQ#Echobox=1706731800 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 (edited) I think @phantom posts periodically that a consultation is due and or @Blagdon red may have mentioned it before too. Thanks for posting. About to read the article but we definitely need to build on things..1.4k isn't enough, supply is clearly outstripped by demand. Edited February 2 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 13 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I think @phantom posts periodically that a consultation is due and or @Blagdon red may have mentioned it before too. Thanks for posting. About to read the article but we definitely need to build on things..1.4k isn't enough, supply is clearly outstripped by demand. 1.4k what isn't enough for what @Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 2 Admin Report Share Posted February 2 20 minutes ago, Superjack said: You may be interested in this... https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/25385136/premier-league-stadium-southampton-championship-russell-martin/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunfootballfacebook010224&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3sbI8d-k4LBaxGi4HsB6rpyHgzzhYheMvKImE6wFTr4u0wPAgasqoU2nQ#Echobox=1706731800 @Superjack this was already discussed a few weeks ago when the story was released I have merged your post into the thread where it was discussed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 6 minutes ago, Nomad said: 1.4k what isn't enough for what @Mr Popodopolous The amount of safe standing capacity that we currently have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Nomad said: 1.4k what isn't enough for what @Mr Popodopolous 25 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said: The amount of safe standing capacity that we currently have. Sorry I'll rephrase it a bit. My view is that in the ground there are more than 1.4k who would prefer to watch their football standing up, Safe Standing call it what you will. The current capacity is about 1.4k for that area...vs West Ham especially and perhaps less so v Nottingham Forest that zone maybe looked over capacity to me and then you see all the standing at the top of the Dolman. That tells me that Demand > Supply for Safe Standing at AG. Edited February 2 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 I was at the last game pre COVID versus Fulham. We had the block next to the Dolman. It was full and the atmosphere was brilliant. Both the stand and the concourse is blocked off. It was brilliant. Really enjoyed the atmosphere and being able to see the whites of the Fulham fans eyes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, supercidered said: I was at the last game pre COVID versus Fulham. We had the block next to the Dolman. It was full and the atmosphere was brilliant. Both the stand and the concourse is blocked off. It was brilliant. Really enjoyed the atmosphere and being able to see the whites of the Fulham fans eyes! They should do that for every game where there are less than 2k away supporters. Stand holds around 4k so plenty of room. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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