Haydon Roberts is a happy man tonight

[Merrick's Marvels]

Because Cam Pring won't be a City player for much longer after that performance tonight. 

[Shauntaylor85]

He played very well but AGAIN, his final ball is not good enough. Will hold him back. Like the entire team, I cannot think of a city side that are so devoid of goals and ideas in final third despite the effort and energy we play with. 

[Northern Red]

Just now, Shauntaylor85 said:

He played very well but AGAIN, his final ball is not good enough. Will hold him back. Like the entire team, I cannot think of a city side that are so devoid of goals and ideas in final third despite the effort and energy we play with. 

Oh piss off you bore.

[38MC]

Just now, Northern Red said:

Oh piss off you bore.

Spot on. He was immense tonight. The whole defence was. Vyner deserves a special mention too. Cool as a cucumber. 

[Top Robin]

2 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

He played very well but AGAIN, his final ball is not good enough. Will hold him back. Like the entire team, I cannot think of a city side that are so devoid of goals and ideas in final third despite the effort and energy we play with. 

Think you're being a bit harsh - but agreed we do need to knock a few more in

[Shauntaylor85]

Just now, Top Robin said:

Think you're being a bit harsh - but agreed we do need to knock a few more in

Not being harsh. Frustrated with our final ball. If we had Twine tonight we may have won, I find our subs predictable, Wells on with Conway would have been a good bet, drop Conway back into a number 10. 

[Son of Fred]

11 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

He played very well but AGAIN, his final ball is not good enough. Will hold him back. Like the entire team, I cannot think of a city side that are so devoid of goals and ideas in final third despite the effort and energy we play with. 

We looked after the ball very well & yet didn't really do a lot with it- Twine makes a difference tonight but he's just visiting - so we still need a creative midfielder & the striker is very badly needed.

 

Edited January 26 by Son of Fred

[Merrick's Marvels]

19 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

He played very well but AGAIN, his final ball is not good enough. Will hold him back. Like the entire team, I cannot think of a city side that are so devoid of goals and ideas in final third despite the effort and energy we play with. 

Not tonight. He was 10/10 tonight.

[Charlie BCFC]

10 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Oh piss off you bore.

As good as Pring is, I do think he has a point on the final ball. It’s something he could get better at, considering the amount of times he puts the ball in the box, the quality is very rarely there in that respect. Brilliant again today though

[t_b]

Two FA Cup bookings for Pring so that’s him out for the replay?

[steveybadger]

43 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Because Cam Pring won't be a City player for much longer after that performance tonight. 

MM love your optimism - see also the ‘best we’ve ever played’ thread.

But I think there’s the tiniest chance of rose tinted glasses on both threads

[wurzelali]

45 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

He played very well but AGAIN, his final ball is not good enough. Will hold him back. Like the entire team, I cannot think of a city side that are so devoid of goals and ideas in final third despite the effort and energy we play with. 

Honestly… Jesus Christ lad. 

[wheretheheartis]

2 minutes ago, wurzelali said:

Honestly… Jesus Christ lad. 

If his final ball was better, he'd be playing for Liverpool 

[Shauntaylor85]

11 minutes ago, Charlie BCFC said:

As good as Pring is, I do think he has a point on the final ball. It’s something he could get better at, considering the amount of times he puts the ball in the box, the quality is very rarely there in that respect. Brilliant again today though

Thank you very much! I know what I’m talking about. Watch a lot of live PL football and can see he will struggle to make the move up the chain unless he improves that final ball. It’s almost as if he struggles to generate power after a run. 

[Shauntaylor85]

30 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Not tonight. He was 10/10 tonight.

I’d give him an 8 or a 9 but he missed some really good chances which cost us in good positions. A 10/10 is the winning goal is it not? 

[Claverham_Red]

10 minutes ago, t_b said:

Two FA Cup bookings for Pring so that’s him out for the replay?

Ah, bugger, that's a shame. However, with all the games to come in quick succession, maybe a rest will be a good thing for CP. Was superb tonight.

TGH also second booking in the FA Cup. Knight to sit back with maybe Sykes back or Bell more advanced on the right?

[MarcusX]

52 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Oh piss off you bore.

He’s not wrong though is he? I love Cam, but it’s not being a “bore” to point out that he has a couple of things to work on.

Defensively and in the build up couldn’t fault him, but that gap in his game is probably the reason he’s still currently a City player and not already in the Prem. 

[Simon bristol]

25 minutes ago, Charlie BCFC said:

As good as Pring is, I do think he has a point on the final ball. It’s something he could get better at, considering the amount of times he puts the ball in the box, the quality is very rarely there in that respect. Brilliant again today though

Agreed, joe bryan played in the premier league because hes a step up on pring going forwards, though i do appreciate that all of the defenders including pring are giving us in these cup games!

[Northern Red]

It's not that Cam can't improve, more the relentless negativity even after a good performance. If Cam wasn't an issue then there'd be something else, because there always is where that poster is concerned.

Edited January 26 by Northern Red

[1960maaan]

I thought both WB's were very good tonight , Cam could improve his delivery & shooting but what an engine.
Remember when he was being hooked at 70 minutes, loads of people saying he wasn't fit enough , not now that's for sure.
Could/should have had a goal . Good move from the corner , and the break when HC played him in . Great touch but running on an angle made the chance harder. 
That part of the new style seems to be working, and with McCrorie on the other side we have balance . Best two players on the pitch tonight IMO.

[Bristol Rob]

1 hour ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Because Cam Pring won't be a City player for much longer after that performance tonight. 

I think the problem Cam might have with his no-nonsense attitude towards defending is VAR.

An asset to any side, just not necessarily one where every cough is reviewed by a dozen different cameras and a gallery of so-called experts.

You wouldn't want to play against him. But under the level of scrutiny of top-flight cameras, would you get 90 minutes out of him, or would he get sent off for playing the game as WE like to see it played.

[Simon bristol]

8 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

I thought both WB's were very good tonight , Cam could improve his delivery & shooting but what an engine.
Remember when he was being hooked at 70 minutes, loads of people saying he wasn't fit enough , not now that's for sure.
Could/should have had a goal . Good move from the corner , and the break when HC played him in . Great touch but running on an angle made the chance harder. 
That part of the new style seems to be working, and with McCrorie on the other side we have balance . Best two players on the pitch tonight IMO.

Great powerful lads no doubt, but im really not sure theres much goal threat between them.

[Rob k]

37 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

I’d give him an 8 or a 9 but he missed some really good chances which cost us in good positions. A 10/10 is the winning goal is it not? 

He was very good tonight but i tend to agree with you, a bit of work on his final ball will make him a PL player. He also should have scored tonight 

[1960maaan]

Just now, Simon bristol said:

Great powerful lads no doubt, but im really not sure theres much goal threat between them.

McCrorie is just starting after being out , very poorly , for 6 months. He will improve and tonight showed he can be a threat.
Cam was involved in 2 of our best moves, and while he didn't hit the target, he was a threat.
Yes he can obviously improve, but as Manning starts to get more from Mehmeti it will help Pring.

[Merrick's Marvels]

1 minute ago, Rob k said:

 He also should have scored tonight 

When!

Second half he made a lung bursting run full length of the pitch counter attack, leaving all our attackers in his wake, the touch he then had in the box took him just fractionally too wide for a clear shot at goal with w defenders closing him down. Would have taken Messi to control and finish that - he's a Left back!

[cellist]

He's been a late bloomer. Nobody really saw this coming when he was on loan at Walsall etc. He may need to improve on final ball, add a few goals/assists. But I'd also say we haven't seen him playing often in a system that has given him as much freedom as he enjoyed tonight. He's improved so much already - who knows where his ceiling is really. 

Enjoy watching him play - gives his all, fully committed, pretty consistent these days. All action tonight! Won a few important headers in the middle of the park and looked dangerous going forward even if the goal didn't come. Possibly my MoM.

[View from the Dolman]

1 hour ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

If we had Twine tonight we may have won

Not sure being disqualified for fielding an ineligible player would really count as a win though. 

[Rob k]

10 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

When!

Second half he made a lung bursting run full length of the pitch counter attack, leaving all our attackers in his wake, the touch he then had in the box took him just fractionally too wide for a clear shot at goal with w defenders closing him down. Would have taken Messi to control and finish that - he's a Left back!

I will be happy to watch a replay as have only seen it once but from where i sat in the Lansdown it looked to me that he should have done better with the opportunity. 

[E.G.Red]

18 minutes ago, Rob k said:

He was very good tonight but i tend to agree with you, a bit of work on his final ball will make him a PL player. He also should have scored tonight 

From his interview on RB tonight it would appear that some in the team thought he should have passed the ball to Nahki

[pongo88]

1 hour ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

He played very well but AGAIN, his final ball is not good enough. Will hold him back. Like the entire team, I cannot think of a city side that are so devoid of goals and ideas in final third despite the effort and energy we play with. 

I don’t agree with your assessment of Pring as I think he could easily play in the Premier League. However, I do agree with the bit I’ve marked in bold. There was the exception of the Hull home and Watford away matches but otherwise it’s  at best one goal per match and often none - e.g. in the last 4 league games City have managed to score 1 goal 

[38MC]

34 minutes ago, Rob k said:

He was very good tonight but i tend to agree with you, a bit of work on his final ball will make him a PL player. He also should have scored tonight 

I don’t think we appreciate just how good he is as a fan base.

He’s a bit of a throwback in the way he plays because his best attributes are his engine and his application. Whereas in the past we’ve been blessed at left back with some really strong technical players who maybe only played for us because their limitations were the physical attributes (think Mickey Bell). 
 

if your left back’s weakness is playing the final ball, I start to question is the issue the ability of the left back, or whether your left back should even be playing a high proportion of final balls in the first place? 

Edited January 26 by 38MC

[wheretheheartis]

18 minutes ago, E.G.Red said:

From his interview on RB tonight it would appear that some in the team thought he should have passed the ball to Nahki

Dummied for nahki

[Merrick's Marvels]

1 hour ago, Rob k said:

I will be happy to watch a replay as have only seen it once but from where i sat in the Lansdown it looked to me that he should have done better with the opportunity. 

Ok. You didn't have the best angle then. His first touch, which took him past the defenders, also took him beyond the far post, meaning he had to try and cut a shot back across goal while going at full pelt. Not easy and a miracle he was even there in the first place.

Edited January 27 by Merrick's Marvels

[Lavington Robin]

8 minutes ago, wheretheheartis said:

Dummied for nahki

Yep if he leaves it Nahki scores.

[Rocking Red Cyril]

Yes loved Pring tonite, all defence in fact. I thinks premier interest for Pring would feel they could improve his final ball issue. Think he could be gone this summer

[Loosey Boy]

1 minute ago, Rocking Red Cyril said:

Yes loved Pring tonite, all defence in fact. I thinks premier interest for Pring would feel they could improve his final ball issue. Think he could be gone this summer

For the first time in a few years, the key thing is that we don’t need to sell anyone.

For once, if we can reject offers and add 2 or 3 quality, Championship-ready/experienced players, I think we will be even more competitive, giving us the best chance in years of getting into the top 6

[Rocking Red Cyril]

2 minutes ago, Loosey Boy said:

For the first time in a few years, the key thing is that we don’t need to sell anyone.

For once, if we can reject offers and add 2 or 3 quality, Championship-ready/experienced players, I think we will be even more competitive, giving us the best chance in years of getting into the top 6

Yes good point.

How long is Pring's contract ?

[Loosey Boy]

1 minute ago, Rocking Red Cyril said:

Yes good point.

How long is Pring's contract ?

Summer of 2026 I think

[Rocking Red Cyril]

4 minutes ago, Loosey Boy said:

Summer of 2026 I think

Do we one year option on his contract?

[petehinton]

He’s eyeing up that nest egg real good tonight. 

[Redrascal2]

2 hours ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Not being harsh. Frustrated with our final ball. If we had Twine tonight we may have won, I find our subs predictable, Wells on with Conway would have been a good bet, drop Conway back into a number 10. 

Lansdown should have backed Liam Manning in this window. Playing some really good football but need someone to score the goals. Manning has done his bit but as usual Lansdown has failed to do his.

[Ecko]

2 hours ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Not being harsh. Frustrated with our final ball. If we had Twine tonight we may have won, I find our subs predictable, Wells on with Conway would have been a good bet, drop Conway back into a number 10. 

I completely agree. 

[38MC]

2 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said:

Lansdown should have backed Liam Manning in this window. Playing some really good football but need someone to score the goals. Manning has done his bit but as usual Lansdown has failed to do his.

I’d be a lot more cautious. I’m seeing some positive shoots but we are a long way away - notwithstanding a great team performance tonight. Let’s not do an MA and a backing of LJ just too early though. I’m glad Manning is having to prove himself over more than a dozen games before he gets a war chest. This is the highest level he’s ever managed and for me he’s still not showing he’s able to be flexible or showing very good in-game management skills. 
 

I am not being critical, I’m just asking him to show a bit more nouse before he gets trusted with too much. This season hinges on the forest replay as we aren’t going up and aren’t going down. The only money he gets -imo - should be if there’s a player that has is available at a reasonable fee,or if we want to tread water and give him a marquee loan player to see what he can do.

Given that marquee is likely to be a striker - because we need goals - and would likely block Tommy, a depreciating asset who ain’t renewing, 

[joe jordans teeth]

3 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Because Cam Pring won't be a City player for much longer after that performance tonight. 

Have I gone mad but some way over the top reactions tonight,forest were in the same league only a few years ago and could well be next year unless we get promoted and yet we get best performance ever and this thread popping up 

Edited January 27 by joe jordans teeth

[SydneyCity]

I would hope Haydon Roberts loves Pring being here. Teammates competing and challenging for spots, pushing each other on, is what elite sportsmen strive for.

Pring is probably my favourite player but if Haydon Roberts comes in, happy days. It means he’s playing better than Pring and Pring has to come back even stronger.

[alexukhc]

Pring was insane, like Pele when they kept fouling him cuz he was so good

[italian dave]

7 hours ago, View from the Dolman said:

Not sure being disqualified for fielding an ineligible player would really count as a win though. 

The outcome really depends on whether you’re Barnsley or West Ham though! 

[italian dave]

6 hours ago, Redrascal2 said:

Lansdown should have backed Liam Manning in this window. Playing some really good football but need someone to score the goals. Manning has done his bit but as usual Lansdown has failed to do his.

Do we know that he hasn’t?

[Super]

My MOM by a distance roll on Feb 1st we don't want to lose him.

[redkev]

If we sell pring in this window I think we might aswell just give up about progressing, there really has to be a time where however good our players coming through are there needs to be a period of right we’re not far away here nobody’s going nowhere for a period . It’s very frustrating as like I have said before with this side add a Scott & semenyo we’re a really decent side . 

[MarcusX]

9 hours ago, E.G.Red said:

From his interview on RB tonight it would appear that some in the team thought he should have passed the ball to Nahki

Easy to say but I thought the same, or let the original ball run through

[Littlesh*t]

9 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

When!

Second half he made a lung bursting run full length of the pitch counter attack, leaving all our attackers in his wake, the touch he then had in the box took him just fractionally too wide for a clear shot at goal with w defenders closing him down. Would have taken Messi to control and finish that - he's a Left back!

I really like watching pring but agree with a lot of points about his delivery and  shooting but as said if he had those strengths nailed he 100% wouldn't be here.

 

The chance you highlight shows why I love watching him with his 100% attitude and making that run all the way up the pitch but also highlights the difference top level players have. I think most top players step over that ball with the awareness to know wells has a free shot.

Not a critism of spring but just the fine margins that define the top level players. That being said maybe he will learn those instincts 

[TDarwall]

It wasn't that long along that Pring was underwhelming whilst on loan at lower league clubs.  Just goes to show how players develop at different stages, but also kudos to Nige for realising that "death by a thousand loans" wasn't the right approach.

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, TDarwall said:

It wasn't that long along that Pring was underwhelming whilst on loan at lower league clubs.  Just goes to show how players develop at different stages, but also kudos to Nige for realising that "death by a thousand loans" wasn't the right approach.

Was he ever underwhelming on loan Tone?  I thought most clubs viewed his loans as positive?  Might be wrong.

[TDarwall]

10 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Was he ever underwhelming on loan Tone?  I thought most clubs viewed his loans as positive?  Might be wrong.

I thought he struggled for minutes at Pompey?

[Bazooka Joe]

13 hours ago, 38MC said:

Spot on. He was immense tonight. The whole defence was. Vyner deserves a special mention too. Cool as a cucumber. 

This made me simile.

[Redrascal2]

4 hours ago, italian dave said:

Do we know that he hasn’t?

Well I guess I am referring to what I see as an urgent need,a striker who can put away the chances we are creating or at least some of them. I thought that was high on the priority list this window and we haven't got anyone yet.

[Davefevs]

41 minutes ago, TDarwall said:

I thought he struggled for minutes at Pompey?

Yes, was signed as understudy for the experienced Lee Brown.  His other loans were good though.

[Bazooka Joe]

12 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

When!

Second half he made a lung bursting run full length of the pitch counter attack, leaving all our attackers in his wake, the touch he then had in the box took him just fractionally too wide for a clear shot at goal with w defenders closing him down. Would have taken Messi to control and finish that - he's a Left back!

Cam has a really good engine.

When he goes through the gears, the opposition gets shafted.

Cam on You Reds !

[italian dave]

29 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said:

Well I guess I am referring to what I see as an urgent need,a striker who can put away the chances we are creating or at least some of them. I thought that was high on the priority list this window and we haven't got anyone yet.

I agree, but I just think that the fact we haven’t got anyone yet doesn’t necessarily mean we haven’t tried, or that Lansdown isn’t prepared to back it.

Everyone would love a striker who’d put away chances; it’s easier said than done to get one! And the January window isn’t the most fruitful either, as a rule. 

[sh1t_ref_again]

Same as West am, they were scared stiff of cam

[WECANDO]

We may have to be patient and wait until next season when Seb Palmer-Holden currently out on loan, becomes the striker we all crave. He looks the part. Watch him Sunday for Newport against the mighty Man U.

[BS3_RED]

14 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Because Cam Pring won't be a City player for much longer after that performance tonight. 

I can't see any way that a prem team does not at least enquire about him. 

Edited January 27 by BS3_RED

[bcfcredandwhite]

I thought Pring did ok. Overall I thought we played really well. It never looked like we were a division below Forest. In fact, they looked pretty ordinary. 
The lack of goals is the elephant in the room though. 
I thought that yesterdays game was as if both the goals had been removed from the pitch!!!

Edited January 27 by bcfcredandwhite
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[Natchfever]

15 hours ago, Charlie BCFC said:

As good as Pring is, I do think he has a point on the final ball. It’s something he could get better at, considering the amount of times he puts the ball in the box, the quality is very rarely there in that respect. Brilliant again today though

Yep.

Watched it on the box so you get to see things in better detail than live.

Commentator said as much about the crossing.

Right now though, one for Steves nest egg without a doubt