Unan Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 For the ex players sub forum to be removed, I just noticed for the first time in weeks that a load of content has been moved there, with next to no engagement since moving.. Commitment bias, also known as the escalation of commitment, describes our tendency to remain committed to our past behaviors, particularly those exhibited publicly, even if they do not have desirable outcomes. 9 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 12 minutes ago, Unan said: For the ex players sub forum to be removed, I just noticed for the first time in weeks that a load of content has been moved there, with next to no engagement since moving.. Commitment bias, also known as the escalation of commitment, describes our tendency to remain committed to our past behaviors, particularly those exhibited publicly, even if they do not have desirable outcomes. Agree. Often forget it’s there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 All because a handful of posters don't have the self-discipline to restrain themselves from opening a thread and say they don't care about a topic. Pandering to a minority. 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 (edited) Yep, average views show it’s absolutely pointless. Bring back Tom, these lot are awful. Edited February 12 by James54De 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 12 Admin Report Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Unan said: For the ex players sub forum to be removed, I just noticed for the first time in weeks that a load of content has been moved there, with next to no engagement since moving.. Commitment bias, also known as the escalation of commitment, describes our tendency to remain committed to our past behaviors, particularly those exhibited publicly, even if they do not have desirable outcomes. It has been discussed and agreed that threads won't be moved until 24 hours after the last post In fact we are leaving it to 48 hours What do you believe has been moved as I can't see any, though haven't online much to notice 45 minutes ago, James54De said: Yep, average views show it’s absolutely pointless. Bring back Tom, these lot are awful. Assume that you realise we were all actually here doing the same things when Tom was here? He looked after things behind the scenes and is essentially the same people looking after the front end of the forum 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 12 Admin Report Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Unan said: For the ex players sub forum to be removed, I just noticed for the first time in weeks that a load of content has been moved there, with next to no engagement since moving.. Commitment bias, also known as the escalation of commitment, describes our tendency to remain committed to our past behaviors, particularly those exhibited publicly, even if they do not have desirable outcomes. For reference to those bringing this up again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 10 minutes ago, phantom said: For reference to those bringing this up again Personally think you should allow a debate / poll on the matter. Not sure why you won't? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gornagain Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 Firstly, thanks very much for the free time given to us by the admins. Secondly, my opinion is that the fewer subforums there are, the better. This one is called "football chat" and discussions about former players comes under that. 17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 19 minutes ago, Selred said: Personally think you should allow a debate / poll on the matter. Not sure why you won't? There is already a poll at the top of the previous thread that phantom has highlighted above. Less than 1 in 4 stated a preference for continuing with a separate ex-players and managers forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 57 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: There is already a poll at the top of the previous thread that phantom has highlighted above. Less than 1 in 4 stated a preference for continuing with a separate ex-players and managers forum. But Phantom in the thread dismissed the poll. Not sure why though, as you say it's almost 1 in 5 supporting keeping it separate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 2 hours ago, James54De said: Yep, average views show it’s absolutely pointless. Bring back Tom, these lot are awful. Idiot, those lot were doing it before and for free! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 It was a great idea several years ago to have a transfer sub forum as I check on there regularly particularly during windows and when they are approaching, however, there's no real impetus to check a former players sub forum, it's the sort of thing I would like to read in the football chat forum. Thus, if in the football chat forum I see a post titled 'Fammy Annoying Bluebirds' I'm likely to read it, whereas I won't go specifically onto the ex players forum in the hope of seeing a post to the effect that our ex striker is peeing them off over the bridge. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 It needs to be re merged - it just seems really pointless and petty to not do so now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 12 Admin Report Share Posted February 12 15 minutes ago, Selred said: But Phantom in the thread dismissed the poll. Not sure why though, as you say it's almost 1 in 5 supporting keeping it separate. For goodness sake it's not a personal decision by me, it was stated why it wasn't changed and a suggestion was agreed on As much as you and others try and turn this into trying to make me be solely responsible the other admin discussed it, and a solution was agreed There's nothing else to say on the matter as it is resolved 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, phantom said: For goodness sake it's not a personal decision by me, it was stated why it wasn't changed and a suggestion was agreed on As much as you and others try and turn this into trying to make me be solely responsible the other admin discussed it, and a solution was agreed There's nothing else to say on the matter as it is resolved Who decided? And why? It seems like you are making work for yourselves where it really isn’t needed and it’s to the detriment of the forum? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, phantom said: For goodness sake it's not a personal decision by me, it was stated why it wasn't changed and a suggestion was agreed on As much as you and others try and turn this into trying to make me be solely responsible the other admin discussed it, and a solution was agreed There's nothing else to say on the matter as it is resolved This is exactly the thing, who decides it's resolved? Why is there no debate on it? Yourself, other admins, whoever. The issue is there was no debate, discussion or trial. It was decided and you're not open to considering other options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 It makes no sense to me, the other week on top of the forum were threads about KFC, Klopp leaving Liverpool and some marketing campaign at Chelsea. But as an example if anybody posted a thread about Steve Cotterill or Alex Scott it would be hidden away in a sub forum. Don’t understand it all. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 12 Admin Report Share Posted February 12 3 minutes ago, bearded_red said: It makes no sense to me, the other week on top of the forum were threads about KFC, Klopp leaving Liverpool and some marketing campaign at Chelsea. But as an example if anybody posted a thread about Steve Cotterill or Alex Scott it would be hidden away in a sub forum. Don’t understand it all. That is simply not true, as agreed and referenced already in this thread, posts are only moved for reference purposes to make them easier to find 48 HOURS after the last post - this usually means they are on the second page How is that an issue? 6 minutes ago, Selred said: This is exactly the thing, who decides it's resolved? Why is there no debate on it? Yourself, other admins, whoever. The issue is there was no debate, discussion or trial. It was decided and you're not open to considering other options. There was debate, see the link above. An agreement was reached at the time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Monaghan Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 I've always wondered why we have to have a separate transfer forum? I'm sure there is a legit reason for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 9 minutes ago, phantom said: That is simply not true I’m sorry, which part of my post was untrue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoc Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 Whenever a decision of this magnitude needs to be made on the forum, I would expect any self respecting Mod to write to me individually, obviously enclosing a stamped , addressed envelope for my reply. I am understandably furious that this has failed to happen. And in case they were interested my reply would be , I don't give a shit. They do a great job, leave them alone ffs 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 8 minutes ago, Tim Monaghan said: I've always wondered why we have to have a separate transfer forum? I'm sure there is a legit reason for it. I don’t mind that, it means it is easily trackable. The engagement is also very high. Whereas the former player sub is taking threads that would otherwise have hearty conversation and hiding them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 3 hours ago, Northern Red said: All because a handful of posters don't have the self-discipline to restrain themselves from opening a thread and say they don't care about a topic. Pandering to a minority. People just need to use "ignore thread"...as I'm about to do now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 It seems so needless having a subfolder for ex players/employees of the club. About time it was moved back to the main forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 36 minutes ago, Tim Monaghan said: I've always wondered why we have to have a separate transfer forum? I'm sure there is a legit reason for it. Quite simple, to see when Robbored is present on that forum is proves him as being a hypocrite about not being interested in speculation 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 53 minutes ago, phantom said: There was debate, see the link above. An agreement was reached at the time Who agreed? Just admin? Can the forum users who pay not have an input? The link above was a debate AFTER it moved. You should of got opinions and polls before, so it's a forum decision not just admin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 (edited) I think those that are not paying a subscription to the forum should have any input to things affecting the forum. They should simply be ignored. Pay up or shut up. Edited February 12 by bcfc01 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 I don’t think that I ever looked at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 12 Admin Report Share Posted February 12 4 hours ago, Unan said: For the ex players sub forum to be removed, I just noticed for the first time in weeks that a load of content has been moved there, with next to no engagement since moving.. Commitment bias, also known as the escalation of commitment, describes our tendency to remain committed to our past behaviors, particularly those exhibited publicly, even if they do not have desirable outcomes. @Maesknoll Red has kindly gone through the admin folder and there are no threads that were moved within the previously agreed timeframe 1 hour ago, bearded_red said: I’m sorry, which part of my post was untrue? Threads were not moved or hidden away, as previously agreed threads are only moved once they have had no reply on for a period of time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 God people will find anything to moan about , oh yes it otib it’s a given 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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