luke_bristol Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 On 25/02/2024 at 23:58, Wivs7 said: Hi Luke, I still back him but think he has got things wrong in the last two games in the way he got things right against Southampton. What do you think? I think on the whole he’s done a poor job (with the occasional flash of brilliance such as the Saints game) in not particularly trying circumstances, and it was obvious from the start that he’d need time and money, neither of which we had or have. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_bristol Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 On 25/02/2024 at 23:52, Alessandro said: I’m no scholar on the history of the culture wars so bow to your better judgement - but I’d certainly argue it’s the right’s favourite political tool… Given the left in the USA used their media dominance and an army of online activists (and Wikipedia) to redefine the term “recession” to protect Biden from criticism (no such luck for right-wing Rishi Sunak when our own two consecutive quarters of negative growth came along) and organisations like Mermaids in the U.K. are trying to paint anyone who objects to kids having their tits cut off in the name of gender ideology as bigots, I’d suggest the left aren’t shy of a bit of cultural warfare either. Steven Pinker did a decent job in the early 2000s of outing scientists and left-wing academics that were putting politics ahead of facts, and you could argue it goes even further back to the emergence of particular branches of social science and psychology (dominated by the left both then and to this day) in the 1970s. As a political centrist with leanings to both left and right on particular issues it’s certainly a topic I find fascinating and horrifying in equal measure, as you can probably tell! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, luke_bristol said: Given the left in the USA used their media dominance and an army of online activists (and Wikipedia) to redefine the term “recession” to protect Biden from criticism (no such luck for right-wing Rishi Sunak when our own two consecutive quarters of negative growth came along) and organisations like Mermaids in the U.K. are trying to paint anyone who objects to kids having their tits cut off in the name of gender ideology as bigots, I’d suggest the left aren’t shy of a bit of cultural warfare either. Steven Pinker did a decent job in the early 2000s of outing scientists and left-wing academics that were putting politics ahead of facts, and you could argue it goes even further back to the emergence of particular branches of social science and psychology (dominated by the left both then and to this day) in the 1970s. As a political centrist with leanings to both left and right on particular issues it’s certainly a topic I find fascinating and horrifying in equal measure, as you can probably tell! Meanwhile! What about that FBC! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 @headhunter @Curr Avon it was mentioned the podcast, you were going to be doing interviews with Marshall and Tinnion after the window closed. Is this still happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted February 28 Author Report Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, Henry said: @headhunter @Curr Avon it was mentioned the podcast, you were going to be doing interviews with Marshall and Tinnion after the window closed. Is this still happening? Ian was the one who said that and I believe it was wishful thinking on his part. I heard him ask both Marshall & Tinnion at a Senior Reds lunch in November IIRC with the expectation and assurance from them [according to Ian] that they would participate once the January window closed. Now this might explain, for some, the perception that Ian is trying to court favour with both guys by "defending" the current regime and LM in particular in episodes of FBC since the turn of the year. FWIW I never expected Gavin Marshall to come on to be grilled by Ian, even with me being host, but his evidential elevated ITK "status" does suggest that maybe he IS having some dialogue with BT? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 48 minutes ago, headhunter said: Ian was the one who said that and I believe it was wishful thinking on his part. I heard him ask both Marshall & Tinnion at a Senior Reds lunch in November IIRC with the expectation and assurance from them [according to Ian] that they would participate once the January window closed. Now this might explain, for some, the perception that Ian is trying to court favour with both guys by "defending" the current regime and LM in particular in episodes of FBC since the turn of the year. FWIW I never expected Gavin Marshall to come on to be grilled by Ian, even with me being host, but his evidential elevated ITK "status" does suggest that maybe he IS having some dialogue with BT? Brian Tinnion coming on would be fascinating on so many levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 50 minutes ago, headhunter said: Ian was the one who said that and I believe it was wishful thinking on his part. I heard him ask both Marshall & Tinnion at a Senior Reds lunch in November IIRC with the expectation and assurance from them [according to Ian] that they would participate once the January window closed. Now this might explain, for some, the perception that Ian is trying to court favour with both guys by "defending" the current regime and LM in particular in episodes of FBC since the turn of the year. FWIW I never expected Gavin Marshall to come on to be grilled by Ian, even with me being host, but his evidential elevated ITK "status" does suggest that maybe he IS having some dialogue with BT? I would suggest for yours, and the credibility of the podcast, that should have been challenged at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted February 28 Author Report Share Posted February 28 Just now, Henry said: I would suggest for yours, and the credibility of the podcast, that should have been challenged at the time. Listen on Sunday 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 21 hours ago, luke_bristol said: Given the left in the USA used their media dominance and an army of online activists (and Wikipedia) to redefine the term “recession” to protect Biden from criticism (no such luck for right-wing Rishi Sunak when our own two consecutive quarters of negative growth came along) So you reckon the Left dominate the media in this country, too????????? As for the USA, I'd say the last thing the entire planet needs is 4 more years of Trump, so fair's fair. Anyway, back to Liam Manning? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 22 hours ago, luke_bristol said: Given the left in the USA used their media dominance and an army of online activists (and Wikipedia) to redefine the term “recession” to protect Biden from criticism (no such luck for right-wing Rishi Sunak when our own two consecutive quarters of negative growth came along) and organisations like Mermaids in the U.K. are trying to paint anyone who objects to kids having their tits cut off in the name of gender ideology as bigots, I’d suggest the left aren’t shy of a bit of cultural warfare either. Steven Pinker did a decent job in the early 2000s of outing scientists and left-wing academics that were putting politics ahead of facts, and you could argue it goes even further back to the emergence of particular branches of social science and psychology (dominated by the left both then and to this day) in the 1970s. As a political centrist with leanings to both left and right on particular issues it’s certainly a topic I find fascinating and horrifying in equal measure, as you can probably tell! There is not any left wing media dominance here. Unless you think the Times Telegraph, Mail, Express, Sun, Talk TV, GB News etc are bastions of Socialism. Not having any kind of actual left wing to counterbalance the gun toting lunacy has left Americans with a choice between someone who is mad and someone who is senile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_bristol Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 4 minutes ago, The Bard said: There is not any left wing media dominance here. Unless you think the Times Telegraph, Mail, Express, Sun, Talk TV, GB News etc are bastions of Socialism. Not having any kind of actual left wing to counterbalance the gun toting lunacy has left Americans with a choice between someone who is mad and someone who is senile. I agree but I didn’t mention the media in the U.K., although there’s always Ch4 and the Guardian, though they have their own issues. The media in the US though is in a league of their own, see attached image that tickled me today. Absolutely agree on the Trump/Biden “wicked problem”, and the Trump/Clinton one before it. Surely the US could find two better candidates in a three person bus queue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 Please keep politics off our football forum chaps. It ruins threads and no one's interested in your political views anyway. Cheers. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 On 28/02/2024 at 13:45, headhunter said: Listen on Sunday I did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted March 3 Author Report Share Posted March 3 23 minutes ago, Henry said: I did Ah, yes - IIRC you're the guy on the text feed who said I'd lost the plot and should let Ian Gay host the podcast. Can't please everyone! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Just now, headhunter said: Ah, yes - IIRC you're the guy on the text feed who said I'd lost the plot and should let Ian Gay host the podcast. Can't please everyone! I did see that and wonder if you’d think it was me! It wasn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 On 25/02/2024 at 13:01, Davefevs said: It’s not what his narrative was though. He’s changed. We all know why. He’s compromised himself. You have long time mentioned him as a Piers Morgan type, and I've often said you need someone like him on the pod. But I’d currently argue he’s lost objectivity, he’s lost his edge, he’s lost relevance in his angle on the current debate. You could also argue the pod has moved forward with the likes of @TomSutton on giving a different angle. It’s interesting to watch it / listen to it play out. +++++ @Countryfile you put it better than I did. I have to agree - think Tom has been an excellent addition to the pod, and in general the pod is much better when Neil is on the pannel as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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