Ayman Benarous

[CityFarAndWide]

1 hour ago, 1960maaan said:

To add some balance , apparently hamstring problems after ACL surgery is fairly common. Hamstring pain is common and I read part of a report that said ...

Persistent hamstring contracture ( shortening or hardening of muscles) after ACLR is associated with an increased risk of subsequent Cyclops syndrome.

Cyclops syndrome is caused by a scar tissue nodule adjacent to the tibial tunnel of the anterior cruciate ligament graft after surgery. These lesions result in pain and loss of extension with impingement of the lesion.

There is also no difference from a study, between age, gender , time of injury or proportion of professional athletes .

No good news in there, but at least it's necessarily not down to being injury prone or bad post op care. 

@spudski I also read that if they did use part of the Hamstring, it can grow back shorter, which you would think could cause problems stretching or twisting.

 

Hamstring is preferred for sports athletes because of the less invasive and long term problems with range of motion and less knee complications in general, its also (or was) a significantly better success rate downside is the healing time, it takes the graft up to 2 years to fully settle and "mature" as my specialist like to of called it. 

Now days they do keyhole surgery for it rather than open I believe thats completely redundant. The growing back or "shortening" is why they get on you from the moment usually you wake up from the operation with stretching the knee and keeping it straight a big concern especially amongst specialists for athletes. 

[Mattredrobin]

2 hours ago, CityFarAndWide said:

As someone who has suffered 3 ACL/PCL (2 in right 1 in left and a re-rupture in the final stages of recovery as he did) which forced me to call it a day at an academy at 20, I can tell you this, its a unfortunate domino effect and we can say or blame the medical department but drawing from own experiences with it, if or when complications and setbacks happen they will just happen; the trauma to that part of the body makes it unpredictable and will never recover.

Depending on how he had his repairs (There is various methods depending on the individuals needs). He will continue to suffer hamstring injuries as they are the most common and potentially further knee complications (tendonitis will be one) and will have to manage that along with his playing time for the rest of his playing career additionally that will also be impacted by how significant the potential acceleration of knee osteoarthritis could be in his situation.

He will suffer a shift in performance in areas of his game which is to no fault of his own. I would have realistic expectations of him never being the "same" player. 

Sorry you have experienced this as well, such an awful time for Ayman i really hope he is ok mentally as it must be so tough to stay positive, I was thinking the same around his performance and would he be able to perform at the same level again. 

Regardless I am sure he has good people around him and I think we all just wish he can still play...if not with us then someone at a decent level.

[Davefevs]

50 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

Not that I was ever fast enough to pull my hamstring & it is common practice to use those fibres. When I had mine done they used some of the patella tendon which is in the kneecap . This was 20 years ago though . Do worry about the lads future in the game now. 

Yep, mine was over 25 years ago.

36 minutes ago, CityFarAndWide said:

Hamstring is preferred for sports athletes because of the less invasive and long term problems with range of motion and less knee complications in general, its also (or was) a significantly better success rate downside is the healing time, it takes the graft up to 2 years to fully settle and "mature" as my specialist like to of called it. 

Now days they do keyhole surgery for it rather than open I believe thats completely redundant. The growing back or "shortening" is why they get on you from the moment usually you wake up from the operation with stretching the knee and keeping it straight a big concern especially amongst specialists for athletes. 

They stuck me on a machine 20+ hours a day for a few days, gradually increased the amount of bend.  Had mine done at one of the Clifton hospitals, and Andy Tillson was in at the same time rehabbing from whatever knee op he’d had.  The machine needed some wd40 (like me knee!), it used to creek like mad.  No sleep with that thing on.

[W-S-M Seagull]

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Can’t remember who initially said there was going to be a review (BT, JL, etc???) but when quizzed on it LM basically said Del Bonsu was asking around a few of his mates in the game.

Not really a review is it?

 

Basically he's gonna ask around down at the pub if anyone knows. 

Initially it was framed as we would have an outside firm come in and essentially audit all of our processes. But when pressed to elaborate it was simply they are going to talk to their mates. 

My question is, why wouldn't we get a firm to come in and to have a look at things? What's the harm in that? 

Something like that shouldn't even be in LM's remit. Brian should be sorting this out. 

 

[1960maaan]

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Can’t remember who initially said there was going to be a review (BT, JL, etc???) but when quizzed on it LM basically said Del Bonsu was asking around a few of his mates in the game.

Not really a review is it?

 

43 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Basically he's gonna ask around down at the pub if anyone knows. 

[Davefevs]

59 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Brian should be sorting this out. 

If only we knew the reporting line of the joint heads of:

• medical
• strength and conditioning

[Steve Watts]

[42nite]

2 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

 

Something like that shouldn't even be in LM's remit. Brian should be sorting this out. 

 

 

He'll probably get Scotty to do it in between washes!

 

[redkev]

6 hours ago, alexukhc said:

Sending positive wellbeing’s for the lad, mentally and physically

Good post , it’s not just getting back to fitness physically, firstly his mentality must be shot to bits all his life be has been striving to be a football player then all of a sudden just after his dream had come true by getting in the first team this has happened , he might possibly have to change his whole life and look for another future ( I sincerely hope not just hope a full pre season carefully nurtured will see him on the right path again ) if he does get back to the standard he was at how hard will it be for him to go full throttle during a game he will naturally be holding back which then could easily lead to another injury or affect his performance, nightmare for the lad all the best would love to see him come through this 

great talent , city fan from Bristol what more could you ask for

[BCFCOFSWEDEN]

I said it before and im sad to say it again, he is the new Paul Cheesley.

 

He will never play for the first team again!

Ps i hope i have wrong!

[Cityboy1954]

13 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Think it’s 3 hamstrings now, not that it matters.

My only hope is that it is indeed a full pre-season that’s needed to “cure” him.

So much potential what little we saw of him hope he gets through this but a big ask .

Edited April 19 by Cityboy1954