How on earth can we know which BCFC will turn up on Sunday?

[Clutton Caveman]

I am fully aware that some teams attack and some sit back and defend and this impacts our success HOWEVER, what I cannot understand is when we have a home local derby our players showed no energy, drive, passion, and generally looked like they would rather be anywhere else.

Fast forward the make the long trip to Ipswich where we have a modest away following and transformed into an aggressive, together, hungry and motivated group. Tackles were flying in and the speed of passing and movement off the ball was great.

So next we have Swansea at home and I have absolutely no feeling about which team will turn up.

[OneTeamInBristol]

Flip a coin, that will tell you.

[Numero Uno]

Sunday is THE season decider for me. Win and we can take a deep breath whilst the season just slowly extinguishes to nothing. Draw or lose and it becomes a full-on relegation scrap from a position of almost guaranteed safety after Middlesbrough.

Can’t say I’m impressed that it’s reached this position tbh.

[The Original OTIB]

6 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Sunday is THE season decider for me. Win and we can take a deep breath whilst the season just slowly extinguishes to nothing. Draw or lose and it becomes a full-on relegation scrap from a position of almost guaranteed safety after Middlesbrough.

Can’t say I’m impressed that it’s reached this position tbh.

Tend to agree. If only it was a Friday eve game. Sunday lunch an awful twist.

[Numero Uno]

4 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said:

Tend to agree. If only it was a Friday eve game. Sunday lunch an awful twist.

Sunday will be a poor turnout. Two horrendous home displays followed by a game on Mothers Day. I’ll be there and would take a disgusting 1-0’er tbh.

[BCFCGav]

I think part of the reason we look worse at home/against poorer sides is impatience from the crowd. We didn't really do much first half yesterday but no-one minded as we were against a strong side and were happy to contain them. I think it'd be a good idea to allow them a slow start Sunday, to get a feel of the ball and the rhythm of the game. If we get grumbly they get nervous, and the improved/faster/more aggressive play never emerges.  

[westonred]

We only seem to play well when were in front of the TV Cameras strange that

[Numero Uno]

4 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:

I think part of the reason we look worse at home/against poorer sides is impatience from the crowd. We didn't really do much first half yesterday but no-one minded as we were against a strong side and were happy to contain them. I think it'd be a good idea to allow them a slow start Sunday, to get a feel of the ball and the rhythm of the game. If we get grumbly they get nervous, and the improved/faster/more aggressive play never emerges.  

That is literally an excuse. The crowd is no different now than it has been for years. The only difference is a few groans when we go from thirty yards from their goal and two passes later it’s with Max. Justifiably too.

[Club and Country]

It will be the exact same performance as the ones v qpr , sheff wed and Cardiff unfortunately 

Edited March 6 by Club and Country

[Numero Uno]

Just now, Club and Country said:

It will be the exact same 

Yep, I foresee yet another very low quality home game. I just hope we are tight this time and it’s Swansea that allow us the chance to win the game.

[NOTBLUE]

Fast,front foot,aggressive,all out attack football,3-0 win,……….or maybe something completely different,no one has a clue.

[ray savino]

We’ll be the ones in the red shirts.

[phantom]

2 hours ago, westonred said:

We only seem to play well when were in front of the TV Cameras strange that

West Ham Vs Bristol City?

It's as if the players are only interested in putting themselves into the shop window

[The Original OTIB]

2 hours ago, Numero Uno said:

That is literally an excuse. The crowd is no different now than it has been for years. The only difference is a few groans when we go from thirty yards from their goal and two passes later it’s with Max. Justifiably too.

Oh, I see, it's OUR fault, is it? Oh, of course, there I was, thinking it was THEIR fault because MANNING WAS in charge, .... and all the time it was OUR fault. Oh, it's so obvious now. I've seen the light!

Don't panic! WHAT ELSE IS THERE TO DO!

 

 

 

[MelksRed]

7 hours ago, OneTeamInBristol said:

Flip a coin, that will tell you.

Are there cameras there?

[W-S-M Seagull]

7 hours ago, Club and Country said:

It will be the exact same performance as the ones v qpr , sheff wed and Cardiff unfortunately 

I think playing Swansea will actually suit the players we have. 

They have a lot of possesion and play with a high line I believe? 

[Cole Not Gas]

19 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

I think playing Swansea will actually suit the players we have. 

They have a lot of possesion and play with a high line I believe? 

I believe and hope you are correct. Never a 'season-decider' of course as only 3 points on offer; yes a draw keeps us above the Swans but the natives may get restless if we perform poorly again against teams below us. 

We are not in free-fall quite yet but defeat on Sunday and at WBA would change this mid-table mediocrity position. I'd say Rotherham are gone, Stoke and Blackburn are on a faster spiral than us but it may be the Pasties game until we all change our thoughts to next season. Shame some of the players already appear to be doing this at home games

[Natchfever]

On 06/03/2024 at 13:11, Clutton Caveman said:

I am fully aware that some teams attack and some sit back and defend and this impacts our success HOWEVER, what I cannot understand is when we have a home local derby our players showed no energy, drive, passion, and generally looked like they would rather be anywhere else.

Fast forward the make the long trip to Ipswich where we have a modest away following and transformed into an aggressive, together, hungry and motivated group. Tackles were flying in and the speed of passing and movement off the ball was great.

So next we have Swansea at home and I have absolutely no feeling about which team will turn up.

The team which faces sides that sit back and lets us pass in front of them im guessing.

 

[Simon bristol]

On 06/03/2024 at 13:41, Club and Country said:

It will be the exact same performance as the ones v qpr , sheff wed and Cardiff unfortunately 

I dont think it will, swansea are the perfect opponent for us, like to get it down and play, which suits us as we can deal with that sort of game better, but they dont have the same quality as a Southampton and ipswich. Not saying we will definitely win, but in theory, they are exactly who we would want to be playing. Agree with someone else though, if we lose we are in big trouble.

[Shauntaylor85]

On 06/03/2024 at 13:11, Clutton Caveman said:

I am fully aware that some teams attack and some sit back and defend and this impacts our success HOWEVER, what I cannot understand is when we have a home local derby our players showed no energy, drive, passion, and generally looked like they would rather be anywhere else.

Fast forward the make the long trip to Ipswich where we have a modest away following and transformed into an aggressive, together, hungry and motivated group. Tackles were flying in and the speed of passing and movement off the ball was great.

So next we have Swansea at home and I have absolutely no feeling about which team will turn up.

It’s Mother’s Day so I won’t be going and thank God for that. 

[Marv Smyth]

Unless I am mistaken they have only failed to score in four of their games since December, but their -11 GD tells you that they are no strangers to conceding goals too!

So I reckon we can (and will) win on Sunday, I do worry about going a goal down first, because (IMHO) following this bad run, the confidence levels will be low.  Regardless, I will do my best to get behind the team. 

Win or lose at the weekend, I just want to see the lads go for it, and I want to see LM respond to any in game changes and substitutions made by them. 

[FNQ]

On 06/03/2024 at 18:47, Numero Uno said:

Sunday is THE season decider for me. Win and we can take a deep breath whilst the season just slowly extinguishes to nothing. Draw or lose and it becomes a full-on relegation scrap from a position of almost guaranteed safety after Middlesbrough.

Can’t say I’m impressed that it’s reached this position tbh.

Agree with this.. after the Swansea game the next 4 matches are really tough. Lose on Sunday and it could be 9 on the trot

[Andy082005]

3 hours ago, FNQ said:

Agree with this.. after the Swansea game the next 4 matches are really tough. Lose on Sunday and it could be 9 on the trot

To think we could go into Sundays game only 3 points away from the relegation zone is absolutely hilarious. 
 

How Tinnion and Manning still have a job is anyone’s guess 

[redkev]

On 06/03/2024 at 13:11, Clutton Caveman said:

I am fully aware that some teams attack and some sit back and defend and this impacts our success HOWEVER, what I cannot understand is when we have a home local derby our players showed no energy, drive, passion, and generally looked like they would rather be anywhere else.

Fast forward the make the long trip to Ipswich where we have a modest away following and transformed into an aggressive, together, hungry and motivated group. Tackles were flying in and the speed of passing and movement off the ball was great.

So next we have Swansea at home and I have absolutely no feeling about which team will turn up.

I’m afraid I have an idea of which team will turn up

[ray savino]

We will win 3-1. Scorers Conway, Vyner, Twine for City. Grimes for Swansea. 

[ray savino]

Oh and 0-0 till the last 5 minutes, so don’t leave early whatever you do.

[cidered abroad]

8 minutes ago, ray savino said:

We will win 3-1. Scorers Conway, Vyner, Twine for City. Grimes for Swansea. 

Who is Twine? Or is it Thrice? Can he play football?

I thought he was on a convalescent holiday in the south west as the sun doesn't shine in north east Lancashire until June!

[ray savino]

He’s a dead ball specialist that we’ve signed on loan allegedly. And yes he will score a corker direct from a free kick.

 

[1960maaan]

Sunday isn't a season decider , but what it will decide is some fans opinion of Manning.

I think a few of the up coming games will be more to our liking , teams that like to keep the ball and impose themselves on games or attack. Swansea , like possession and concede goals seems an ideal mix for us. If we somehow end up playing slow , turgid , impotent football it will really increase the pressure. I don't think it will pan out like that . There should be plenty of opportunities to pinch the ball high at get at them, just what we need ATM.

Not going to go as far as predict a big win, but you would think Sunday would suit us. 
 

[TDarwall]

I just said elsewhere, it's pretty much the perfect opponent for us. Early in LMs reign I would  have been confident but we have clearly regressed somewhat reverently.

 

[AshtonGreat]

On 06/03/2024 at 15:49, phantom said:

West Ham Vs Bristol City?

It's as if the players are only interested in putting themselves into the shop window

Im pretty sure professional scouts don't only watch football matches on TV

[Ivorguy]

6 minutes ago, TDarwall said:

I just said elsewhere, it's pretty much the perfect opponent for us. Early in LMs reign I would  have been confident but we have clearly regressed somewhat reverently.

 

Just love your use of the word ‘somewhat’

[Son of Fred]

On 06/03/2024 at 13:31, Numero Uno said:

Sunday will be a poor turnout. Two horrendous home displays followed by a game on Mothers Day. I’ll be there and would take a disgusting 1-0’er tbh.

It's all about the win... couldn't care if were absolute shite so long as we get the points..

 

[TDarwall]

1 minute ago, Ivorguy said:

Just love your use of the word ‘somewhat’

3 of the last 4 games have been awful. The 4th, was an awful result but actually a decent performance. Just have to hope we take the decent performance rather than the awful result into Sunday.

I always think, bad runs rarely end with a sparking performance, it just needs to be a win to reboot a bit or confidence.

[Spike]

On 06/03/2024 at 13:11, Clutton Caveman said:

I am fully aware that some teams attack and some sit back and defend and this impacts our success HOWEVER, what I cannot understand is when we have a home local derby our players showed no energy, drive, passion, and generally looked like they would rather be anywhere else.

Fast forward the make the long trip to Ipswich where we have a modest away following and transformed into an aggressive, together, hungry and motivated group. Tackles were flying in and the speed of passing and movement off the ball was great.

So next we have Swansea at home and I have absolutely no feeling about which team will turn up.

It's got nothing to do with the players intensity, they're playing just as hard in both games. The difference is when the opposition attacks us we're fighting to get the ball back and get on that fast counter so we look more aggressive and determined. 

When we play a team who sit back and counter us we have more possession but can't actually do much with it so the slow passing, retaining possession football comes out where we look boring and lifeless. You see bursts of our best football when the opposition disposess us and we get the ball back quickly because then the transition is more open for our attack. 

The whole blaming the players thing doesn't sit well for me, we saw under Pearson that the players are driven, we've seen it in patches under Manning when they've been allowed to show it too but for the most part the laboured, "don't care" football is Mannings tactics being played as he's taught them. They're obviously uninspiring to the players as they struggle to break down teams who sit back but they're told to be patient in their build up and to retain the ball. Under Pearson it was more get it forward as quickly as possible and if the bank is lost fight for it high up the pitch again. 

I don't blame the players, I blame the tactics Manning is trying to play. We simply do not have the creativity or the shape to play a slow build up style, in fact I can't think of a single team in the Championship who do play a slow build up successfully. I mean even you look at the table the highest positioned team so play defensive football is Cardiff and even they hit on the counter attack rather than playing a slow build up style. 

We're going to keep getting contrasting performances as long as we try to play a slow build up, especially when we have so many players who shine when allowed to use their pace like Bell, Conway, Sykes, Pring and so many more. 

[supercidered]

On 06/03/2024 at 20:56, W-S-M Seagull said:

I think playing Swansea will actually suit the players we have. 

They have a lot of possesion and play with a high line I believe? 

They do like to play with possession and they do like to play a high line.

However, they and their management team will look to adapt to situations when the above is not best suited to the game they are in. In short, they have a Plan B and Plan C, so they can adapt.

This is where LM has been so disappointing. We are so predictable and when it isn't working we know the changes he will try and implement (such as they are) so if we know it then you can be damn sure the opposition management and players know it.

[W-S-M Seagull]

45 minutes ago, supercidered said:

They do like to play with possession and they do like to play a high line.

However, they and their management team will look to adapt to situations when the above is not best suited to the game they are in. In short, they have a Plan B and Plan C, so they can adapt.

This is where LM has been so disappointing. We are so predictable and when it isn't working we know the changes he will try and implement (such as they are) so if we know it then you can be damn sure the opposition management and players know it.

I don't know how welded Williams is to his principles but if I was him I'd have them sit back against us. Frustrate us and the crowd. 

[Son of Fred]

1 hour ago, Spike said:

get it forward as quickly as possible and if the bank is lost fight for it high up the pitch again. 

This - I don't think to realise it is particularly tactical, just bloody common sense.....

Horses for courses.

[Davefevs]

Swansea:

Average attack

Below average defence

Very slow build-up, possession based

Medium / above average pressing intent, but very effective

[ralphindevon]

Next season’s season ticket details will be announced soon.

The club certainly won’t want to be doing that on the back of 5 straight defeats.

I’m predicting we’ll end our run of defeats with a 1-1 draw

[spudski]

1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

Swansea:

Average attack

Below average defence

Very slow build-up, possession based

Medium / above average pressing intent, but very effective

Sounds like a bore fest waiting to happen against our lot. 

Qué...a 6 goal thriller

[Davefevs]

15 minutes ago, spudski said:

Sounds like a bore fest waiting to happen against our lot. 

Qué...a 6 goal thriller

Was gonna write something similar!

[Steve Watts]

On 06/03/2024 at 13:39, westonred said:

We only seem to play well when were in front of the TV Cameras strange that

Did you even see the Leeds match?!?  Yes, they were a class above, but we rolled over and had our tummies tickled live on TV.

[Ivorguy]

After Manning’sPress Conference I have an awful feeling I know the answer

[Colemanballs]

8 hours ago, Spike said:

It's got nothing to do with the players intensity, they're playing just as hard in both games. The difference is when the opposition attacks us we're fighting to get the ball back and get on that fast counter so we look more aggressive and determined. 

When we play a team who sit back and counter us we have more possession but can't actually do much with it so the slow passing, retaining possession football comes out where we look boring and lifeless. You see bursts of our best football when the opposition disposess us and we get the ball back quickly because then the transition is more open for our attack. 

 

This is one of the most worrying things for me. Manning doesn't influence whether we are going to play well or not, the opposition do

[Davefevs]

55 minutes ago, Colemanballs said:

This is one of the most worrying things for me. Manning doesn't influence whether we are going to play well or not, the opposition do

Yep, the basis of my reply to Spud earlier.

[Out of his pie crust]

On 06/03/2024 at 13:17, Numero Uno said:

Sunday is THE season decider for me. Win and we can take a deep breath whilst the season just slowly extinguishes to nothing. Draw or lose and it becomes a full-on relegation scrap from a position of almost guaranteed safety after Middlesbrough.

Can’t say I’m impressed that it’s reached this position tbh.

Then we must fight. Tooth and nail stuff