spudski Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 ...do we have it written into his loan that he can't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 No he cant Yes we do 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted March 13 Author Report Share Posted March 13 Just now, Silvio Dante said: No he cant Yes we do Thanks bud 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted March 13 Author Report Share Posted March 13 I was going to put a bet on...both teams to score and Weimann scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 18 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: No he cant Yes we do No he can’t, it is against league rules for a loanee to play against his host club in an EFL match. So not in his contract, but in the rule book! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted March 13 Author Report Share Posted March 13 Just now, Davefevs said: No he can’t, it is against league rules for a loanee to play against his host club in an EFL match. So not in his contract, but in the rule book! Everyday is a learning day...didn't know that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 4 minutes ago, spudski said: Everyday is a learning day...didn't know that. I think clubs can agree in League Cup (Carabao) to allow, but not League games. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: I think clubs can agree in League Cup (Carabao) to allow, but not League games. The David Seal clause. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNQ Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 We would have been better off having TGH sit this one out as a loanee and having Andi available for us for not only this game but all the other games he has missed for us since his loan. When we can’t get anywhere near filling a matchday bench it seems ridiculous that we let the club captain go out on loan,especially to a team who were occupying one of our ‘top 6’ positions . There again, ridiculous just about sums us up at the moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDziek Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 Unlike David Seal years ago I think - scored against us whilst on loan I think (for Northampton?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 12 minutes ago, spudski said: Everyday is a learning day...didn't know that. I didn’t know that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 (edited) Can he play for us? There will be a space on the bench for him. Edited March 13 by ExiledAjax 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 Just now, ExiledAjax said: Can he play for us? Even better would be if Corberan & Manning lined up both first team squads & then took it in turns to pick a player*, firstly it would improve our chances of a point & secondly we might actually fill the subs bench for the first time in ages. * takes me back to junior school, circa 1973.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 26 minutes ago, FNQ said: We would have been better off having TGH sit this one out as a loanee and having Andi available for us for not only this game but all the other games he has missed for us since his loan. When we can’t get anywhere near filling a matchday bench it seems ridiculous that we let the club captain go out on loan,especially to a team who were occupying one of our ‘top 6’ positions . There again, ridiculous just about sums us up at the moment. Agree, but once we made the decision that we didn’t want to offer him a new contract & with the rumour of an appearance clause triggering another one if he stayed, this made sense, particularly as we didn’t expect Twine (25 appearances for Hull) to then get injured after one game for us. I like Andi & personally would have kept him on (FWIW Matty James, too) but the club clearly see it differently. TGH baffles me, I’m not sure he’s Manning’s type of player but he must have signed off making it a permanent arrangement. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 6 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Even better would be if Corberan & Manning lined up both first team squads & then took it in turns to pick a player*, firstly it would improve our chances of a point & secondly we might actually fill the subs bench for the first time in ages. * takes me back to junior school, circa 1973.. Mannings first pick would be Mehmeti! 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 Remember David Seal’s lob while on loan to Northampton and was allowed to play against us, what a goal!! Though celebrations were a little off, considering he was actually contracted to us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 55 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I think clubs can agree in League Cup (Carabao) to allow, but not League games. I really thought that teams could opt out . In my head I thought it was standard not to be able to play, but if both teams agreed they could. Strange they can in the Cup though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 (edited) WBA's squad excluding youth players isn't that much bigger tbh. Injuries are a differentiating factor. Townsend, Phillips, Maja, Dike Vs *Deep breath* Tanner, Atkinson James, Naismith Benarous Twine (until Sunday), Bell Albeit given the extreme length of injuries to Atkinson and Benarous plus the McCrorie issue as soon as he joined we are light. Edited March 13 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, FNQ said: We would have been better off having TGH sit this one out as a loanee and having Andi available for us for not only this game but all the other games he has missed for us since his loan. When we can’t get anywhere near filling a matchday bench it seems ridiculous that we let the club captain go out on loan,especially to a team who were occupying one of our ‘top 6’ positions . There again, ridiculous just about sums us up at the moment. It is bizarre that a top 6 club saw him as a signing that would improve them - and we, sat several places lower and with an injury hit squad, decided he wasn't required. 1 hour ago, GrahamC said: Agree, but once we made the decision that we didn’t want to offer him a new contract & with the rumour of an appearance clause triggering another one if he stayed, this made sense, particularly as we didn’t expect Twine (25 appearances for Hull) to then get injured after one game for us. I like Andi & personally would have kept him on (FWIW Matty James, too) but the club clearly see it differently. TGH baffles me, I’m not sure he’s Manning’s type of player but he must have signed off making it a permanent arrangement. Didn't know about this appearance clause Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 4 hours ago, Davefevs said: No he can’t, it is against league rules for a loanee to play against his host club in an EFL match. So not in his contract, but in the rule book! August 1997; The next away fixture was at Northampton where Crambe opened the scoring for City. David Seal equalised and then laid on the winner for Northampton. For some reason John Ward permitted him to play against City despite the game falling during the loan period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 20 minutes ago, 22A said: August 1997; The next away fixture was at Northampton where Crambe opened the scoring for City. David Seal equalised and then laid on the winner for Northampton. For some reason John Ward permitted him to play against City despite the game falling during the loan period. Yep, recall that too. Rules changed since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 Can we play him against them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 Is the UK the only nation in Europe that has these loan rules? It's certainly common in Spain and Germany for loan players to play against their parent club. I certainly wouldn't have a problem with Weimann playing. It doesn't say much for the confidence of a team that they're running scared about their own player beating them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 This question was discussed on the WBA forum; "If we have Weimann on loan then I imagine not. Presuming we sold TGH to them, he’ll be able to play against us." 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 Am I right in thinking the last player to appear against us, while on loan, is Carl Hutchings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Oh Louie louie said: Am I right in thinking the last player to appear against us, while on loan, is Carl Hutchings? I don't remember that exactly. All I recall is that he played against us several times while in our starting XI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 (edited) 2 hours ago, Oh Louie louie said: Am I right in thinking the last player to appear against us, while on loan, is Carl Hutchings? Apologies, looks like he did in 2000, no recollection of it at all. Edited March 15 by GrahamC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 On 13/03/2024 at 13:37, GrahamC said: Agree, but once we made the decision that we didn’t want to offer him a new contract & with the rumour of an appearance clause triggering another one if he stayed, this made sense, particularly as we didn’t expect Twine (25 appearances for Hull) to then get injured after one game for us. I like Andi & personally would have kept him on (FWIW Matty James, too) but the club clearly see it differently. TGH baffles me, I’m not sure he’s Manning’s type of player but he must have signed off making it a permanent arrangement. Agree re TGH. A Manning signing as far as I'm concerned. He could have vetoed it and had a million or so in the pot this summer instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 2 hours ago, Sir Geoff said: Agree re TGH. A Manning signing as far as I'm concerned. He could have vetoed it and had a million or so in the pot this summer instead. I understand why Manning signed TGH, have you seen his Mrs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 He was so bad that by then, he wasnt even booed, much worse a insult, ignored, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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