JAWS Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 Before Jon Given the belief in certain quarters that sonny is responsible for the latest mess and that Daddy should intervene to put things right, I thought I'd have a bit of a brainstorm to recall the notable failings across SL's tenure which will hopefully convince people that Daddy is still pulling the strings & sonny (& crew) are just puppets, AND more importantly a reminder of the poor management & lack of ambition across the last 22 years. Here's a list of things I can recall. Apologies if some inaccuracies. 1. Not signing Mark Robins permanently following a successful loan spell (this was early in SL tenure) 2. Not appointing Mark Robins as manager 3. Appointing Tony Pulis 4. Appointing Derek Mcinnes 5. Appointing Brian Tinnion (as Manager - see below for TD 6. Announcing no more foreign signings after failed signings such as Peter Styver 7. Announcing no more loan signings after expensive loans such as Stern John 8. Announcing no signings of players over 30 (may have been younger?) 9. Rejecting a quite frankly mental bid of £7m for Nicky Maynard. Could argue showed ambition. It seemed arrogant & stupid at the time given the significance of the bid. 10. Giving GJ limited funds in the Jan window which meant signing target man Dele Adebola & not a quality striker prolific striker (not target man). 11. The mess that was Coppell, rumoured to have left due to SL's meddling which included the signing of David James 12. Not backing Cotts when we had the most momentum, feel good factor & team spirit I can remember. Interfering with the transfer discussions with Andre Gray & Harry Maguire, which led to stand off between Cotts & SL 13. Sacking Cotts 14. Appointing LJ 15. Penny pinching in the Jan window after momentum built up in cup & league approaching Xmas. We were closing in on Wolves (we had em worried at 1 nil). Jan signings included two loans, the disaster that was Diony & Ryan Kent. Both of whom upset the team balance, the former looked like he'd won a competition! 16. Appointing Holden after a lengthy selection process, as the 'man to take us to the next level' & saying that he felt sorry for the fans if they couldn't understand what the club were trying to do. 17. Allowing the Williams stand to be re-named in his name (lacking class & respect) 18. Even though signing Matty Taylor was funny, from the outside looking in it was petty & classless/amateur & stooped to the scum level. Then after a slanging match with the sags agreeing to a pathetic gentleman's agreement not to buy anymore of their players! Laughable. 19. Bristol Sport 20. Nibor After Jon (but really still Daddy's decisions) 20. Appointing BT as Technical Director 21. Not backing NP in the summer 22. Sacking NP with lies as an excuse. 23. Appointing an inexperienced replacement. Feel free to add to the list........... 5 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Admin phantom Posted March 20 Admin Report Share Posted March 20 I dread international breaks Where has this Mark Robins nonsense suddenly sprung up from? 7 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, phantom said: I dread international breaks You’re not alone in that Phants…. No doubt Manning will be delighted getting time to “work on the grass” tho as there’s no midweek game. Then he can whinge about two games with only 72 hrs between them………. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 One of those BJs would be good! Occasionally! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 6 minutes ago, phantom said: I dread international breaks You’re not alone in that Phants…. No doubt Manning will be delighted getting time to “work on the grass” tho. Just now, Robbored said: Error! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 7 hours ago, Robbored said: You’re not alone in that Phants…. No doubt Manning will be delighted getting time to “work on the grass” tho as there’s no midweek game. Then he can whinge about two games with only 72 hrs between them………. not a fan then RR ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 7 hours ago, phantom said: Where has this Mark Robins nonsense suddenly sprung up from? It’s valid to a degree. He did have a good loan spell and we could have signed him, but didn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 17 minutes ago, redsquirrel said: not a fan then RR ? He hasn’t impressed many across the fanbase RS, not just me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 31 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said: It’s valid to a degree. He did have a good loan spell and we could have signed him, but didn’t. Actually it’s bollocks. Robins was 33 when he was on loan to us, Rotherham tried to get us to pay an increased fee & when we refused they recalled him. After his time with us he only scored 4 more goals in his whole playing career. I know there would have been loads saying at the time (probably you) why did we sign a player on the way down as a result. I really can’t believe we are debating a player we didn’t sign in 2003 again, FFS. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityboy1954 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 8 hours ago, JAWS said: Before Jon Given the belief in certain quarters that sonny is responsible for the latest mess and that Daddy should intervene to put things right, I thought I'd have a bit of a brainstorm to recall the notable failings across SL's tenure which will hopefully convince people that Daddy is still pulling the strings & sonny (& crew) are just puppets, AND more importantly a reminder of the poor management & lack of ambition across the last 22 years. Here's a list of things I can recall. Apologies if some inaccuracies. 1. Not signing Mark Robins permanently following a successful loan spell (this was early in SL tenure) 2. Not appointing Mark Robins as manager 3. Appointing Tony Pulis 4. Appointing Derek Mcinnes 5. Appointing Brian Tinnion (as Manager - see below for TD 6. Announcing no more foreign signings after failed signings such as Peter Styver 7. Announcing no more loan signings after expensive loans such as Stern John 8. Announcing no signings of players over 30 (may have been younger?) 9. Rejecting a quite frankly mental bid of £7m for Nicky Maynard. Could argue showed ambition. It seemed arrogant & stupid at the time given the significance of the bid. 10. Giving GJ limited funds in the Jan window which meant signing target man Dele Adebola & not a quality striker prolific striker (not target man). 11. The mess that was Coppell, rumoured to have left due to SL's meddling which included the signing of David James 12. Not backing Cotts when we had the most momentum, feel good factor & team spirit I can remember. Interfering with the transfer discussions with Andre Gray & Harry Maguire, which led to stand off between Cotts & SL 13. Sacking Cotts 14. Appointing LJ 15. Penny pinching in the Jan window after momentum built up in cup & league approaching Xmas. We were closing in on Wolves (we had em worried at 1 nil). Jan signings included two loans, the disaster that was Diony & Ryan Kent. Both of whom upset the team balance, the former looked like he'd won a competition! 16. Appointing Holden after a lengthy selection process, as the 'man to take us to the next level' & saying that he felt sorry for the fans if they couldn't understand what the club were trying to do. 17. Allowing the Williams stand to be re-named in his name (lacking class & respect) 18. Even though signing Matty Taylor was funny, from the outside looking in it was petty & classless/amateur & stooped to the scum level. Then after a slanging match with the sags agreeing to a pathetic gentleman's agreement not to buy anymore of their players! Laughable. 19. Bristol Sport 20. Nibor After Jon (but really still Daddy's decisions) 20. Appointing BT as Technical Director 21. Not backing NP in the summer 22. Sacking NP with lies as an excuse. 23. Appointing an inexperienced replacement. Feel free to add to the list........... Think youve pretty well summed them up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Thought this was an offer then. Hence why I clicked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 How about Cheesleys Injury are you going to blame him for that ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Didn't he change the pies a few seasons ago? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 You missed the bit about Steve cooking and eating that bat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 18 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Actually it’s bollocks. Robins was 33 when he was on loan to us, Rotherham tried to get us to pay an increased fee & when we refused they recalled him. After his time with us he only scored 4 more goals in his whole playing career. I know there would have been loads saying at the time (probably you) why did we sign a player on the way down as a result. I really can’t believe we are debating a player we didn’t sign in 2003 again, FFS. Not sure it really needs this. Its player who did well on loan we didn’t sign 20 years ago, I was just trying to add some context. Also, Probably me? Get ****** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Bottle jobs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Homer Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Nibor was Les Kew, wasn't it something to do with his daughter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Pulis was the Brandon tool hire bloke... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 32 minutes ago, harvey54 said: Didn't he change the pies a few seasons ago? I mean, that was a terrible decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Thought the Maynard bid never went any further because Micky (I'll never forget him), would only entertain a move to a Premier League side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 9 hours ago, JAWS said: Before Jon Given the belief in certain quarters that sonny is responsible for the latest mess and that Daddy should intervene to put things right, I thought I'd have a bit of a brainstorm to recall the notable failings across SL's tenure which will hopefully convince people that Daddy is still pulling the strings & sonny (& crew) are just puppets, AND more importantly a reminder of the poor management & lack of ambition across the last 22 years. Here's a list of things I can recall. Apologies if some inaccuracies. 1. Not signing Mark Robins permanently following a successful loan spell (this was early in SL tenure) 2. Not appointing Mark Robins as manager 3. Appointing Tony Pulis 4. Appointing Derek Mcinnes 5. Appointing Brian Tinnion (as Manager - see below for TD 6. Announcing no more foreign signings after failed signings such as Peter Styver 7. Announcing no more loan signings after expensive loans such as Stern John 8. Announcing no signings of players over 30 (may have been younger?) 9. Rejecting a quite frankly mental bid of £7m for Nicky Maynard. Could argue showed ambition. It seemed arrogant & stupid at the time given the significance of the bid. 10. Giving GJ limited funds in the Jan window which meant signing target man Dele Adebola & not a quality striker prolific striker (not target man). 11. The mess that was Coppell, rumoured to have left due to SL's meddling which included the signing of David James 12. Not backing Cotts when we had the most momentum, feel good factor & team spirit I can remember. Interfering with the transfer discussions with Andre Gray & Harry Maguire, which led to stand off between Cotts & SL 13. Sacking Cotts 14. Appointing LJ 15. Penny pinching in the Jan window after momentum built up in cup & league approaching Xmas. We were closing in on Wolves (we had em worried at 1 nil). Jan signings included two loans, the disaster that was Diony & Ryan Kent. Both of whom upset the team balance, the former looked like he'd won a competition! 16. Appointing Holden after a lengthy selection process, as the 'man to take us to the next level' & saying that he felt sorry for the fans if they couldn't understand what the club were trying to do. 17. Allowing the Williams stand to be re-named in his name (lacking class & respect) 18. Even though signing Matty Taylor was funny, from the outside looking in it was petty & classless/amateur & stooped to the scum level. Then after a slanging match with the sags agreeing to a pathetic gentleman's agreement not to buy anymore of their players! Laughable. 19. Bristol Sport 20. Nibor After Jon (but really still Daddy's decisions) 20. Appointing BT as Technical Director 21. Not backing NP in the summer 22. Sacking NP with lies as an excuse. 23. Appointing an inexperienced replacement. Feel free to add to the list........... Dispensing of a CEO another awful decision not appointing a DOF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 55 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Actually it’s bollocks. Robins was 33 when he was on loan to us, Rotherham tried to get us to pay an increased fee & when we refused they recalled him. After his time with us he only scored 4 more goals in his whole playing career. I know there would have been loads saying at the time (probably you) why did we sign a player on the way down as a result. I really can’t believe we are debating a player we didn’t sign in 2003 again, FFS. I was also under the impression that Robins was, and has been for a while, SL's #1 choice for the manager job here. It seems every time the search for a new manager begins, until recently at least, somebody on here always complains that he is about to approach Robins and they hope we don't get him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAWS Posted March 21 Author Report Share Posted March 21 59 minutes ago, Red Homer said: Nibor was Les Kew, wasn't it something to do with his daughter? Yeah possibly RH. Made me chuckle though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAWS Posted March 21 Author Report Share Posted March 21 43 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Thought the Maynard bid never went any further because Micky (I'll never forget him), would only entertain a move to a Premier League side? You may be right BR but my recollection was SL flexing his financial muscles. Don't think it got as far as player decision 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAWS Posted March 21 Author Report Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, Barrs Court Red said: Not sure it really needs this. Its player who did well on loan we didn’t sign 20 years ago, I was just trying to add some context. Also, Probably me? Get ****** Yep. It's an assessment of a decision made at the time not in hindsight. Robins scored 4 in 6 for us & therefore appeared to be a good signing that we passed up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 (edited) Some good points among some nonsense. My thought for a while (and stated before) is JL has been handed the club as something to do. Major decisions are ran by papa but, JL needs experience as one day he will be at the helm of dads empire. Just a fact! What better way to get experience than to piss off thousands of people by making shit decisions on your learning curve. The firing of The CEO, Pearson, his team and the promoting of BT to Technical Director are horror decisions. Yes probably ran by pop, but he’s on his own! If you are SL, JL is a lot easier to take ******* up Bristol Sport and learning something, than slopping around on a yacht! Edited March 21 by REDOXO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Saw the title and thought "Bloody hell they're getting desperate for season ticket renewals!" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, JAWS said: You may be right BR but my recollection was SL flexing his financial muscles. Don't think it got as far as player decision You are correct. We never accepted any bid from Leicester. Edited March 21 by David Brent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 11 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Some good points among some nonsense. My thought for a while (and stated before) is JL has been handed the club as something to do. Major decisions are ran by papa but, JL needs experience as one day he will be at the helm of dads empire. Just a fact! What better way to get experience than to piss off thousands of people by making shit decisions on your learning curve. The firing of The CEO, Pearson, his team and the promoting of BT to Technical Director are horror decisions. Yes probably ran by pop, but he’s on his own! If you are SL, JL is a lot easier to take ******* up Bristol Sport and learning something, than slopping around on a yacht! I posted a while back that I wondered if he’d had some form of epiphany, ie what am I gonna do with my life. This was off of the back of hearing a story that Jon had asked to become CEO, but instead of giving him the role it was a bit like - “you carry on being Chairman, but I’ll put a safety blanket of Gavin, Tom and Brian around you whilst you prove yourself”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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