Mr Popodopolous Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 (edited) May as well do a poll on it, I'm thinking yes he should. Not in every case but most he should IMO. 3 Year deal probably not e.g., likewise if we have to break the bank but we should make a good effort I'd say. Edited April 30 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattredrobin Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 I've gone no, I love Matty, but I can't see us keeping both him and Williams, and I would rather we keep williams out of the 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 30 Author Report Share Posted April 30 (edited) Fair. Some of our best performances have come with him in the side, he isn't yet too old- the experience and knowhow, leadership is also (IMO) invaluable. Personally we should I think make a big play to keep him and Williams. Edited April 30 by Mr Popodopolous 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 Yes but no! He'll want 2 years. We've moved away from those kinds of deals and we have cover. So it would be a very reluctant no from me, even though he's one of the best players we've signed in my lifetime. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 30 Author Report Share Posted April 30 (edited) I'd have no issue with a 2 year deal, he would play until age 34..elder statesman in the squad. Naismith, Cornick and Wells are senior pros, King is surely heading outward..although if he can be kept on in a coaching capacity I wouldn't object. King, James, Weimann all leaving at once albeit Weimann 6 months in advance seem a a bit of risk to me. If King goes and in the absence of Weimann, James would become the elder statesman of the squad. Edited April 30 by Mr Popodopolous 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 Yes, if it's a 2 year deal on a heavily reduced salary. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 It's a no from me. We have enough in that position next season i.e Knight, TGH, Williams?, Bird and more cover from Naismith and McCrorie if needed. The wages would be available for another player to come in for a position we are lacking in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 28 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Fair. Some of our best performances have come with him in the side, he isn't yet too old- the experience and knowhow, leadership is also (IMO) invaluable. Personally we should I think make a big play to keep him and Williams. Losing James, King, Williams and maybe Wells too we'll be a massive blow because their experience is invaluable. We simply cannot allow all that experience to walk out of the door. I think we may have felt the impact of Weimann leaving earlier on in the season. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutton Caveman Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 24 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I'd have no issue with a 2 year deal, he would play until age 34..elder statesman in the squad. Naismith, Cornick and Wells are senior pros, King is surely heading outward..although if he can be kept on in a coaching capacity I wouldn't object. King, James, Weimann all leaving at once albeit Weimann 6 months in advance seem a a bit of risk to me. If King goes and in the absence of Weimann, James would become the elder statesman of the squad. I would prefer to keep James and lose Cornick any day 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 30 Author Report Share Posted April 30 1 minute ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Losing James, King, Williams and maybe Wells too we'll be a massive blow because their experience is invaluable. We simply cannot allow all that experience to walk out of the door. I think we may have felt the impact of Weimann leaving earlier on in the season. Agreed. A sprinkling of suitable senior pros is vital for leadership, experience and know-how. Wells until 2025 I thought? Unless he is being moved on this summer. 1 minute ago, Clutton Caveman said: I would prefer to keep James and lose Cornick any day Cornick is contracted until 2026 iirc so no done deal that he can be moved on even if we want to. He is a depth player or can be tbh, came close to some vital contributions near misses.. think West Brom and Ipswich at Home, there was another game too I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 30 Author Report Share Posted April 30 Will the hierarchy do the right thing by the club. Whatever that may prove to be... ...Or will the anti NP sentiments mean King and James are sent on their way. By the hierarchy I mean those above Manning in the first instance 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 20 minutes ago, RedRoss said: It's a no from me. We have enough in that position next season i.e Knight, TGH, Williams?, Bird and more cover from Naismith and McCrorie if needed. The wages would be available for another player to come in for a position we are lacking in. Just a small point (sorry), but when we say “wage would be available….” that assumes “another player” is just a wage cost, and doesn’t need a fee also. Unless we can get another freebie, it’s probably not a binary wage discussion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 30 Author Report Share Posted April 30 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Just a small point (sorry), but when we say “wage would be available….” that assumes “another player” is just a wage cost, and doesn’t need a fee also. Unless we can get another freebie, it’s probably not a binary wage discussion. Exactly, any or all of Amortisation, Wages and Agents Fee for a new addition. That new addition would need to be at least similar quality to James to make it worth it although I accept that age and room cor growth if already quite talented can be a significant upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pip King Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 I went for Yes but if it comes down to him or JW then I'd go for Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 30 Author Report Share Posted April 30 Bird, Knight, TGH, Naismith as it stands. The latter can also play CB which may yet he needed given our track record with injuries. Would argue strong room to make a good go at keeping both James and Williams. Murphy possibly but not yet, his time will hopefully come but how fit or otherwise is he, how first team ready. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilRascal Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 I'd say yes on a 1 year deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 (edited) I've gone with yes as experience is vital if you really look at it we lose James and king ( I'm sure king will be leaving) unsure if wells Williams( new contract offer)will stay and Naismith ,We can't afford to much experience leaving the squad we lose those 5 players then it will be concerning even with an inexperienced manager. Edited April 30 by Street red 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 30 Author Report Share Posted April 30 2 minutes ago, Street red said: I've gone with yes as experience is vital if you really look at it we lose James and king ( I'm sure king will be leaving) unsure if wells Williams( new contract offer)will stay and Naismith ,We can't afford to much experience leaving the squad we lose those 5 players then it will be concerning even with an inexperienced manager. Naismith and Wells are contracted to 2025 but I do agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 10 minutes ago, LilRascal said: I'd say yes on a 1 year deal I'd say yes to that but I don't think he'll take it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 I am a reluctant no. Don't think he's mobile enough to play we want to, and with less game time if he stays he will be coming in with less match sharpness. My main concern is that with King going, we will lose alot of experience and guidance a for a young team. Wouldn't be to put out of he did stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 I'm confused! Didn't this poll close on the 6th of January? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 30 Author Report Share Posted April 30 19 minutes ago, Midred said: I'm confused! Didn't this poll close on the 6th of January? 1st June. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 (edited) It's a yes for me on a 2 year deal. I may expect him to play less but I feel he gives us a stability that we sometimes lack and with his invaluable experience he can offer as much off the pitch as on it. I don't see why Williams contract should be a factor as we can accommodate both. Edited April 30 by RoystonFoote'snephew Text corrrection 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 He wants a 2 year deal so I said no as I think that’s one year too many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnzFM Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 Imagine he’s on a fair amount, if he takes a cut then why not but i suspect he wouldn’t so I’ve gone with no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 30 Author Report Share Posted April 30 This thinking that James is on a big wage I don't fully buy it. A reasonable wage sure, as big as stated..he joined us when the process of cutbacks was beginning and back with NP, King and even briefly Simpson plus Rennie- pull factors so I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjmcity Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Will the hierarchy do the right thing by the club. Whatever that may prove to be... ...Or will the anti NP sentiments mean King and James are sent on their way. By the hierarchy I mean those above Manning in the first instance This statement is such bonkers shit stirring The first part contradicts itself and the second part is wild imagination to make sure to drag any topic down into the mud Edited April 30 by Fjmcity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 30 Author Report Share Posted April 30 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Fjmcity said: This statement is such bonkers shit stirring The first part contradicts itself and the second part is wild imagination to make sure to drag any topic down into the mud Well I hope that whatever calls are made are down for the right reasons. The fact that they haven't mentioned a new contract offer for James is disappointing IMO. Irrespective of late October, I feel it's a mistake. Edited April 30 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 3 hours ago, Mattredrobin said: I've gone no, I love Matty, but I can't see us keeping both him and Williams, and I would rather we keep williams out of the 2 Agree with this. Only one can stay IMO with bird coming in. Williams has the experience now and still has the legs for another 4/5 years at this level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 2 years but on a wage cut , it’s vital we keep some experience within the squad as it is a pretty young group Experienced pros after James would be wells Williams Naismith Dickie Vyner - after that it’s all pretty much a young squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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