samo Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 If your rational that he is not moving is purely down to the lack of a "for sale" sign, then the thinking is flawed on numerous counts:A) Even when selling through Estate Agents many people choose not to have a "for sale" sign, especially if, for Eg, you don't want to publicise the fact that you are moving.............B) He could choose to rent his house out instead of selling it immediatelyC) With the sort of ££ players earn + signing on fees (am also sure some clubs will practically buy a new house for a player) they are in a very different financial position to the average Joe. The idea that they would need to flog one house before being in a position to buy another is not true.true. he could commute. its not unheard of.hope he stays though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest harveythompson Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 If your rational that he is not moving is purely down to the lack of a "for sale" sign, then the thinking is flawed on numerous counts:A) Even when selling through Estate Agents many people choose not to have a "for sale" sign, especially if, for Eg, you don't want to publicise the fact that you are moving.............B) He could choose to rent his house out instead of selling it immediatelyC) With the sort of ££ players earn + signing on fees (am also sure some clubs will practically buy a new house for a player) they are in a very different financial position to the average Joe. The idea that they would need to flog one house before being in a position to buy another is not true.Enless he has done it privately? Do they have 'For Sale' signs for private house sales?Should have read the whole post before you tried to sound clever and be billy big time............Idiott'is i Good work my friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Stewart's on 3.5k a week, the 5-7k quote you hear originates from championship manager.As for attitude he trains exceptionally well, and although he isn't happy about not starting he's responding to it correctly unlike Phillips.He hasn't had a run in the side while we've had a midfield worth speaking of and now that we do I'd like to see if he can get on the end of the crosses we're putting in finally.Nibor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Stewart's on 3.5k a week, the 5-7k quote you hear originates from championship manager.As for attitude he trains exceptionally well, and although he isn't happy about not starting he's responding to it correctly unlike Phillips.He hasn't had a run in the side while we've had a midfield worth speaking of and now that we do I'd like to see if he can get on the end of the crosses we're putting in finally.Nibori think whats needed is left footed midfielder/winger. this would possibly remove the need for another striker as it might help stewart refind his form for the reasons mentioned above. still would leave the side as it is for now. we just need to get some left feet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Harry Dolman Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Enless he has done it privately? Do they have 'For Sale' signs for private house sales?Should have read the whole post before you tried to sound clever and be billy big time............IdiotGood work my friend Uhhhh ????I did read the post in full. You seemed to be suggesting that his house wasn't for sale as there wasn't a for sale sign. You then qualified it by saying it could be a private sale as you're not sure if private sales have signs (its up to the person selling really). I was just making the point that just because there is no for sale sign, it doesn't rule out the fact that the house could be being marketed by an estate agent.Read the post in full next time, sammy small time........ donkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Wilkshire is going no where. His house is not for sale (He lives 2 doors away from me). Enless he has done it privately? Do they have 'For Sale' signs for private house sales? The house will be rented out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANRPDAN Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 We all know Luke is on his way, you could see that from his reaction after his goal.Let's get Stewart back in the side and see just what he can do when we get the ball in the opp' half as we played **** when he had a small run in the side. Remember every player was **** at the start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtilldead Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 The reason he hasn't done much is because a player like Stewart thrives off service from the midfield. he wasn't getting that so he wasn't showing us what he is capable of. He scored a lot for the Mackems last season and I don't think he can have turned that bad just over a summer. Now that we have a half decent midfield in place maybe he deserves another stint.Totally agree mate, why do alot of people feel they have to slate MS all the time?,if he goes I really think we will live to regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray White Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Bas Savage to Real Madrid for an undisclosed fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB. Posted January 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Totally agree mate, why do alot of people feel they have to slate MS all the time?,if he goes I really think we will live to regret it.I think it's because we have spent a lot of money on him and given him a lot of hype and we have had 4 goals in return.Anyway, transfers so far are:In:David Noble- 2 1/2 year deal - Undisclosed transfer fee (anyone want to hazard a guess?) - From BostonOut:Scott Golbourne - Rumoured £160 - 200K - To ReadingMarc Joseph - Returns to Hull after completing loan spellMicheal Bridges - Released - To Carlisle More soon???Who would you sign if you were in Gary Johnson's position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Swindle have gone nutshttp://www.thisisstfc.co.uk/Forum_New/topi...?TOPIC_ID=26269cureton for Brooker and Stewpot In their dreams, cureton is worth jack poo and Brooker is worth 1m, stupid retards that the funniest thing i've read today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyBoyPVFC Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Fortune to Port Vale on a permanent deal I hope. The guy is a revelation and a rock at the back. Man of the match in our last 2 games and is miles better than Sam Collins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Fortune to Port Vale on a permanent deal I hope. The guy is a revelation and a rock at the back. Man of the match in our last 2 games and is miles better than Sam Collins Sure, that'll be 100k plus Mickey Bell please.Nibor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C.T.I.D Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Fortune to Port Vale on a permanent deal I hope. your not the only one The guy is a revelation and a rock at the back. agreed,rocks don't do a lot do they Man of the match in our last 2 games surely not better than your last purchase ,dinning Have him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest harveythompson Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Have him Yes please do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyBoyPVFC Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 I'm serious Fortune's been great and doing a great job.Mickey Bell is currently getting splinters in our arse, Dinning is part of a great midfield with Sam Togwell, Lee Matthews has sadly had it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 The bottom line is that us City fans have never seen anyone quite like Bas Savage. He's stimulated so much more varied opinion than any City player I can remember over the last 10 years. He's that different.....and frankly I don't know what to make of him.He's an enigma and there are not many players you can say that about.More games will tell if he's got what it takes and thats probably why Johnson has signed him untill the end of the season and not beyond.Our manager like many of us simply don't know what to make of him.One thing is for sure..he will always be a well remembered player whether he makes or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Stewart's on 3.5k a week, the 5-7k quote you hear originates from championship manager.I reckon there's the potential to get it to £5K if he's scoring in a winning team. The details of Scott Murray's salary were revealed in the Evening Post. In Scott's case, his package is reported as;"The contract included a basic wage of £2,500 a week, rising to £2,600 and then £2,700 over three years; relocation costs of £8,000, appearance fees for home and away matches, a goal bonus, a goal assist bonus and bonuses for promotion." Source: thisisbristol.co.ukAs the average player costs the club a total of £2K a week (based on an analysis of the accounts with lots of assumptions), the bonuses of top earners such as Marcus and Scott must be significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 I reckon there's the potential to get it to £5K if he's scoring in a winning team. The details of Scott Murray's salary were revealed in the Evening Post. In Scott's case, his package is reported as;"The contract included a basic wage of £2,500 a week, rising to £2,600 and then £2,700 over three years; relocation costs of £8,000, appearance fees for home and away matches, a goal bonus, a goal assist bonus and bonuses for promotion." Source: thisisbristol.co.ukAs the average player costs the club a total of £2K a week (based on an analysis of the accounts with lots of assumptions), the bonuses of top earners such as Marcus and Scott must be significant.Assuming he played every game and scored a hatrick and we got promoted maybe yes, his earnings over the year might be that much, depends on how much the bonuses are obviously.But then it's a moot point because the thing about bonuses is, they are most often structured so that they can only be earned by results that pay for them.Nibor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Assuming he played every game and scored a hatrick and we got promoted maybe yes, his earnings over the year might be that much, depends on how much the bonuses are obviously.But then it's a moot point because the thing about bonuses is, they are most often structured so that they can only be earned by results that pay for them.NiborI'd certainly prefer bonuses to basic salary for the reason you state. I simply reckon that the bonuses are a significant chunk of pay (when earned) as it is otherwise difficult to link Scott Murray's disclosed pay into the overall wage bill of the Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 I'd certainly prefer bonuses to basic salary for the reason you state. I simply reckon that the bonuses are a significant chunk of pay (when earned) as it is otherwise difficult to link Scott Murray's disclosed pay into the overall wage bill of the Club.I guess alot of it depends on what spread you assume. You can look at the total given in the figures and do some rough calculations as you say. Don't forget that the employment cost shown in the accounts includes employer contributions which are significant, and probably a certain amount of non playing football staff as well as benefits like health insurance etc.I'd always assumed that the max was about £3-£4k and that only for one or two players. (Probably only Stewart now, I think Doherty was on something close to that though). I'd guess most of the senior pros (ie over 23) are on £1200-£2500 a week depending on seniority, with the youngsters somewhere around £500 until they sign their second deal.Nibor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB. Posted January 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 I'd always assumed that the max was about £3-£4k and that only for one or two players. (Probably only Stewart now, I think Doherty was on something close to that though). I'd guess most of the senior pros (ie over 23) are on £1200-£2500 a week depending on seniority, with the youngsters somewhere around £500 until they sign their second deal.NiborWhat I hear from source agrees with what you say. I've heard most the first team are on about £2000 but I've also heard from my most reliable personal source (well, my only personal source) that Stewart is on £5000 a week. He doesn't deserve £1000 a week on his form so far does he!?Anyway, for anyone who's using this thread for transfer information/descussion, Steve Phillips is having his name circulated. Looks like he is out the door then! Is there a rule at this Club that we're not allowed a back up keeper or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB. Posted January 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Anymore bizzare rumours today then? I read one about Robert Earnshaw Has Phillips been linked with anyone yet?Anyone want Stewart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Casual Connoisseur Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Hearded the Dental Plan rumours to. As if he will come to us, hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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