sab Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 why do we want to win a cup for the lowest 2 divisions?Surely the priority should be to get out of our division not encourage injuries?I will not be there tonight nor in Cardiff if we go throughbut I will be in Brighton on Saturday even though it means sitting with Brighton fansany-one agree?
bartolona Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 why do we want to win a cup for the lowest 2 divisions?Surely the priority should be to get out of our division not encourage injuries?I will not be there tonight nor in Cardiff if we go throughbut I will be in Brighton on Saturday even though it means sitting with Brighton fansany-one agree?I'm not going tonight,but am going to Brighton saturday and Ashton Gate tomorrow night.
Guest Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 Its tomorrow mate, <Wednesday>I wouldn't say a competitive game against our biggest rivals for a place in the final at the millenium stadium £££'s is a waste of time either.
Guest Dwile Flonker Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 why do we want to win a cup for the lowest 2 divisions?Surely the priority should be to get out of our division not encourage injuries?I will not be there tonight nor in Cardiff if we go throughbut I will be in Brighton on Saturday even though it means sitting with Brighton fansany-one agree?Hope you have fun with those Brighton boys. I agree promotion is the priority but we can't pass up the opportunity to stuff the Gas, can we?
Moth Eaten Pillow Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 why do we want to win a cup for the lowest 2 divisions?Surely the priority should be to get out of our division not encourage injuries?I will not be there tonight nor in Cardiff if we go throughbut I will be in Brighton on Saturday even though it means sitting with Brighton fansany-one agree?What game you playing tonight?
Guest Gotta get rid of the Gas Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 why do we want to win a cup for the lowest 2 divisions?Surely the priority should be to get out of our division not encourage injuries?I will not be there tonight nor in Cardiff if we go throughbut I will be in Brighton on Saturday even though it means sitting with Brighton fansany-one agree?certainly won't bother tonight will be there on weds though !!!!!
Fodbarmyarmy Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 why do we want to win a cup for the lowest 2 divisions?Surely the priority should be to get out of our division not encourage injuries?I will not be there tonight nor in Cardiff if we go throughbut I will be in Brighton on Saturday even though it means sitting with Brighton fansany-one agree?Agree with you totally....I wont be going anywhere near AG tonight Now tomorrrow.... Sometimes I don't understand why teams bother with FA Cup or Champions league for that matterand best stop reserve games as well - players could get injured in them also...what a waste of timeStuff the possible £half mill profit - stuff the great atmos - and stuff the memories which remain with you all your life (3 Wembley's and 2 Millenium's in my case - hated each and everyone of them...not)Stay home - you won't be missed
City Rocker Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 No I strongly disagree with your post...we haven't got a game tonight!...anyway, I guess everyone sees promotion as priority, it's the only thing that really matters, but the financial benefit of a cup final - Mickey Mouse or not - is massive. It can also help lift the club and introduce new young fans into the fold, which is crucial for the longterm future. I'm sure one of the reasons our fanbase is so much bigger than that of the Rovers is that over the years we've had far more big occasions, promotions, cup finals etc to lure the aspiring young Bristol football fan. That and the fact Rovers are rubbish.
Robbored Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 why do we want to win a cup for the lowest 2 divisions?I think its embarressing that City are in the Mickey Mouse Cup in the first place because its only for clubs from the lower divisions and I'd rather City didn't qualify (next season,I hope)But.....like it or not we are in the competition and therefore might as well make as much dosh from it as possible.The two games against the Gas will generate some good income and if City get through to the Millenium then we could be looking at a £500k pay day as well.In that regard its well worth the effort.
sab Posted February 20, 2007 Author Posted February 20, 2007 ok ok - shows I don't give a toss- getting the day wrongfeel free to enjoy the match and the final but it means nothing to me apart from some needed ££'s IF it goes back to the club
Guest maidenheadred Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 ok ok - shows I don't give a toss- getting the day wrongfeel free to enjoy the match and the final but it means nothing to me apart from some needed ££'s IF it goes back to the clubif you cant get excited about project of beating rovers home and away, and then a game in front of 60,000 spectators with nothing to lose then think you're following wrong sport, son.
Sir Colby-Tit Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 why do we want to win a cup for the lowest 2 divisions?Surely the priority should be to get out of our division not encourage injuries?I will not be there tonight nor in Cardiff if we go throughbut I will be in Brighton on Saturday even though it means sitting with Brighton fansany-one agree?I can't understand that at all.I couldn't care if it's the Tin Pot trophy, the FA Cup, the League Cup, the Gloucester Cup or the league - it's the Gas FFS. Derbies are mental, I love 'em. How any City fan could purposely miss out on a derby is way beyond me.
Waffleflap Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 This game is massive for us bristolians that have to put up with the sh1te the gas heads throw at us,everyday at work.We can finally shut them up once and for all.Oh, and the prospect of seeing 40k city fans at the millenium don't excite you.You must be from a different planet mate.THIS IS MASSIVE
Guest Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 why do we want to win a cup for the lowest 2 divisions?Surely the priority should be to get out of our division not encourage injuries?I will not be there tonight nor in Cardiff if we go throughbut I will be in Brighton on Saturday even though it means sitting with Brighton fansany-one agree?Nope; TOMORROWS game will be remembered for a bit longer than the Brighton game and will be talked about for many months in pubs and games; whatever the outcome.The atmosphere in the East End and ground will also not be surpassed until "the" game that gets us promotted.Certainly not a meaningless game to many thousands of football fans in this area either.Injuries can occur in training, in warm up before a game even in town
Keep the Faith Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 why do we want to win a cup for the lowest 2 divisions?Surely the priority should be to get out of our division not encourage injuries?I will not be there tonight nor in Cardiff if we go throughbut I will be in Brighton on Saturday even though it means sitting with Brighton fansany-one agree?Why are you sitting with the Brighton fans and making a point about doing so when there are plenty of tickets left for the away end?
sab Posted February 20, 2007 Author Posted February 20, 2007 cos I was told there wasn't any available so myself and a few others thought that was the only way to get in
Barrs Court Red Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 Sab, if you don't get excited by a sell out derby, and are only interested in higher league football I suggest you piss off and join the ranks of the plastic premiership fan.Just a thought....
BS10 RED Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 ok ok - shows I don't give a toss- getting the day wrongfeel free to enjoy the match and the final but it means nothing to me apart from some needed ££'s IF it goes back to the clubNo one will be there tonight.Also i bet if we made the final your wanna be there.
WTFiGO!?! Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 why do we want to win a cup for the lowest 2 divisions?Surely the priority should be to get out of our division not encourage injuries?I will not be there tonight nor in Cardiff if we go throughbut I will be in Brighton on Saturday even though it means sitting with Brighton fansany-one agree?Just in case eight people haven't already said and you yourself haven't already acknowledged the error I'd like to just point out that the game is tomorrow night. You seem to be in a bit of a minorety when it comes to the importance of a Bristol derby.
Dorset_Cider Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 Just in case eight people haven't already said and you yourself haven't already acknowledged the error I'd like to just point out that the game is tomorrow night. You seem to be in a bit of a minorety when it comes to the importance of a Bristol derby.No....... In fairness the SAB is right but he maybe has not put it over in a way that most people agree withAny game against the gas is an important must win gameThe money from a JPT cup final is important....... if only from the money aspect and the publicitybut the really, really, really important games are the game against Brighton plus every other league game left....... and in my honest opinion promotion 'IS MORE IMPORTANT' so please all of you lot get off the blokes back.BRISTOL CITY FC...... IS ALSO BIGGER THAN Bristol.
BS10 RED Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 No....... In fairness the SAB is right but he maybe has not put it over in a way that most people agree withAny game against the gas is an important must win gameThe money from a JPT cup final is important....... if only from the money aspect and the publicitybut the really, really, really important games are the game against Brighton plus every other league game left....... and in my honest opinion promotion 'IS MORE IMPORTANT' so please all of you lot get off the blokes back.BRISTOL CITY FC...... IS ALSO BIGGER THAN Bristol.So you wont be at the final either
Dorset_Cider Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 So you wont be at the final eitherNo I will not be at the final....... for two reasons......... we ain't there yet and we ain't there yetI have another reason as well ........ I'd rather be playing in Division Two (Championship) next year than go to a JPT finalIn an ideal world we would achieve all of our goals....... promotion & The JPTI do not have a problem with that...... do you?
bucksred Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 No I will not be at the final....... for two reasons......... we ain't there yet and we ain't there yetI have another reason as well ........ I'd rather be playing in Division Two (Championship) next year than go to a JPT finalIn an ideal world we would achieve all of our goals....... promotion & The JPTI do not have a problem with that...... do you?I'm wi daaaaarset on this PROMOTION is vastly more important than beating the sags, but to prevent any smug braggin for the next thirty years we just gotta beat the sags. hopefully both will come to pass, two leagues clear of them and swindle tooand 40,000 plus cider reds at barfdiff should stir the soul though Daaarset, keepin the red flag flyin high (We havent as you said got there yet)
WTFiGO!?! Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 No....... In fairness the SAB is right but he maybe has not put it over in a way that most people agree withAny game against the gas is an important must win gameThe money from a JPT cup final is important....... if only from the money aspect and the publicitybut the really, really, really important games are the game against Brighton plus every other league game left....... and in my honest opinion promotion 'IS MORE IMPORTANT' so please all of you lot get off the blokes back.BRISTOL CITY FC...... IS ALSO BIGGER THAN Bristol.Forward Note:This ain't going to be short and possibly a little emotional, but I'll try and make it as coherant, concise and civil as I canDorset....the League is considered to me as business, Rovers is personal, I'd go as far as saying almost spiritual. This is also a crap hypothetical dilema that I don't like to engage in - like 'they' say don't mix your professional and personal life. Even the potential possibility of half mill (? - or whatever) to the Club and a nice day out with big foam hands, hooters, face paint and 20,000 bandwagon jumpers is in my eyes entirely independent of a game with Rovers.I've been a right touchy little bastard for the last three days, I've just been for a long walk now to calm myself down as it goes. A strict non-drinking regime hasn't helped but I may have to have a day off tomorrow night. Although this game hasn't been consciously at the forfront of my mind I do now associate it to my anxiety, pre-match tension like I've not felt since I can remember. The 8 year old boy who sat motionless with tears slowly trickling down his face second's after Christ Waddle blasted high and wide races to the surface with the derby like no other game, combine that with the days of utter guttedness following the aftermath of experiencing delirious Gasheads celebrating in their clubhouse terrace in 2000 - not to mention the day's in School following '95 then you'll understand why I take issue with anyone who say's this isn't important. (I was going to express my sentiment stronger earlier but wrote my thought's on the matter on Sunday and saw this one as more of a piss take out of the number of people who all told SAB he'd got the day wrong. Also, why do people not find the relevant thread to report their issue on?) I'd rather not have to go through this derby but here we are and what with the chemistry between the Club's in this city being how it is; the pressure is firmly on us not to lose.To go on, if anyone (probably naive female type) who suggest's that I need to grow up, I need to get some perspective or 'it's only a game' if, if ..... well, 'you know what' happen's then there really will be drama. I don't care how corporate, how commersialised, how bland or how 'family entertainment' orientated they've tried to make Football in the last 10 years - THIS MATTERS BIG. Anyone who disagree's must be emotionally far removed from me.I just pray to God we score early.COME ON YOU REDS!It's been good getting this shit out, accusations of over-sentimentality I refute, this is what I've been feeling.
WTFiGO!?! Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 You have summed it up brilliantly WTF.Well you're the same as me mate - living in the dark side.Give the dark side any excuse and they're absolute murder.Those insignifact degenerare scum absolutely hate us and with good reason. I personally only really hate them due to their 'Club' holding the city of Bristol back with their prolonged and stubborn wastage of positive energy. I wish they'd become extinct, I hypothetically wish that The Beautiful City only had the one Club. What the ##### is going on? We're ill respected by Club's from every other major city (minus Bradford) and it ain't right. And then there's the Gas Gay Pride down in Whorefield doing their destined loser's act. Just dissapear.This is between me and you and the reason why we can not lose to them and a umm 'result' for them is always the ultimate F - You!!This is why the tie is important.
Dolman Block B Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 Forward Note:This ain't going to be short and possibly a little emotional, but I'll try and make it as coherant, concise and civil as I canDorset....the League is considered to me as business, Rovers is personal, I'd go as far as saying almost spiritual. This is also a crap hypothetical dilema that I don't like to engage in - like 'they' say don't mix your professional and personal life. Even the potential possibility of half mill (? - or whatever) to the Club and a nice day out with big foam hands, hooters, face paint and 20,000 bandwagon jumpers is in my eyes entirely independent of a game with Rovers.I've been a right touchy little bastard for the last three days, I've just been for a long walk now to calm myself down as it goes. A strict non-drinking regime hasn't helped but I may have to have a day off tomorrow night. Although this game hasn't been consciously at the forfront of my mind I do now associate it to my anxiety, pre-match tension like I've not felt since I can remember. The 8 year old boy who sat motionless with tears slowly trickling down his face second's after Christ Waddle blasted high and wide races to the surface with the derby like no other game, combine that with the days of utter guttedness following the aftermath of experiencing delirious Gasheads celebrating in their clubhouse terrace in 2000 - not to mention the day's in School following '95 then you'll understand why I take issue with anyone who say's this isn't important. (I was going to express my sentiment stronger earlier but wrote my thought's on the matter on Sunday and saw this one as more of a piss take out of the number of people who all told SAB he'd got the day wrong. Also, why do people not find the relevant thread to report their issue on?) I'd rather not have to go through this derby but here we are and what with the chemistry between the Club's in this city being how it is; the pressure is firmly on us not to lose.To go on, if anyone (probably naive female type) who suggest's that I need to grow up, I need to get some perspective or 'it's only a game' if, if ..... well, 'you know what' happen's then there really will be drama. I don't care how corporate, how commersialised, how bland or how 'family entertainment' orientated they've tried to make Football in the last 10 years - THIS MATTERS BIG. Anyone who disagree's must be emotionally far removed from me.I just pray to God we score early.COME ON YOU REDS!It's been good getting this shit out, accusations of over-sentimentality I refute, this is what I've been feeling.Superb post Tim....nearly ALL on here are showing the "passion" for this game, its a derby game against our biggest rivals and DOES mean to diehard City fans, everything!!!!!!ALL my mates are up for it, going much earlier than normal to line thier stomach,s with the extra beer or three, and get right behind the boys from the kick off!!!!!!!!!Come on City, come on City, Come on City......
Guest Old Dazzler Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 if you cant get excited about project of beating rovers home and away, and then a game in front of 60,000 spectators with nothing to lose then think you're following wrong sport, son.I think the whole point about following sport is that if there is "nothing to lose" (which is another way of saying nothing worth winning) it defeats the object. I have been to all our "so-called" big finals since the win against Bolton in 1986 and, apart from that particular one (which was unique in that it seemed to signal a landmark in the club's revival since 1982) I have not been able to find the enthusiasm that other fans do for these occassions.The reason for this is that just playing in the competition reminds me that we are a vastly under-acheiving club but are prepared to risk injury and the inevitable distraction of a "Final day" which could well undermine our one and only aim, which is to get promotion.I hear that Fox-hunting is another sport with "nothing to lose", unless of course you're the bloody fox!
bert tann Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 Well you're the same as me mate - living in the dark side.Give the dark side any excuse and they're absolute murder.Those insignifact degenerare scum absolutely hate us and with good reason. I personally only really hate them due to their 'Club' holding the city of Bristol back with their prolonged and stubborn wastage of positive energy. I wish they'd become extinct, I hypothetically wish that The Beautiful City only had the one Club. What the ##### is going on? We're ill respected by Club's from every other major city (minus Bradford) and it ain't right. And then there's the Gas Gay Pride down in Whorefield doing their destined loser's act. Just dissapear.This is between me and you and the reason why we can not lose to them and a umm 'result' for them is always the ultimate F - You!!This is why the tie is important.TRY NHS DIRECT
Dorset_Cider Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Forward Note:This ain't going to be short and possibly a little emotional, but I'll try and make it as coherant, concise and civil as I canDorset....the League is considered to me as business, Rovers is personal, I'd go as far as saying almost spiritual. This is also a crap hypothetical dilema that I don't like to engage in - like 'they' say don't mix your professional and personal life. Even the potential possibility of half mill (? - or whatever) to the Club and a nice day out with big foam hands, hooters, face paint and 20,000 bandwagon jumpers is in my eyes entirely independent of a game with Rovers.I've been a right touchy little bastard for the last three days, I've just been for a long walk now to calm myself down as it goes. A strict non-drinking regime hasn't helped but I may have to have a day off tomorrow night. Although this game hasn't been consciously at the forfront of my mind I do now associate it to my anxiety, pre-match tension like I've not felt since I can remember. The 8 year old boy who sat motionless with tears slowly trickling down his face second's after Christ Waddle blasted high and wide races to the surface with the derby like no other game, combine that with the days of utter guttedness following the aftermath of experiencing delirious Gasheads celebrating in their clubhouse terrace in 2000 - not to mention the day's in School following '95 then you'll understand why I take issue with anyone who say's this isn't important. (I was going to express my sentiment stronger earlier but wrote my thought's on the matter on Sunday and saw this one as more of a piss take out of the number of people who all told SAB he'd got the day wrong. Also, why do people not find the relevant thread to report their issue on?) I'd rather not have to go through this derby but here we are and what with the chemistry between the Club's in this city being how it is; the pressure is firmly on us not to lose.To go on, if anyone (probably naive female type) who suggest's that I need to grow up, I need to get some perspective or 'it's only a game' if, if ..... well, 'you know what' happen's then there really will be drama. I don't care how corporate, how commersialised, how bland or how 'family entertainment' orientated they've tried to make Football in the last 10 years - THIS MATTERS BIG. Anyone who disagree's must be emotionally far removed from me.I just pray to God we score early.COME ON YOU REDS!It's been good getting this shit out, accusations of over-sentimentality I refute, this is what I've been feeling.I have always lived approx 70 miles from Ashton Gate and all my remembered life I have supported Bristol City FC never any other team....... through much of my school years it felt like only me and my family were City fans...... apart from Mum who is mad and is a gashead.... it's hard when people don't understand you..... even harder when you are a kid..... that is what it is like supporting a team like ours from so far away........ have you ever sat and watched a BCFC game because you could just about get a signal from HTV down here, even though it was almost impossible to actually see it........... but It was Bristol City...... your team..... not any other..... I used to visit my 'Nan Bristol' with the rest of my brothers and Mum/Dad ......... the greatest of treats was to walk down with my brothers and Dad to Ashton Gate from Quantock Road...... to watch the Bristol City FC..... it is so vivid in my memory and so exciting to think of even now I am in my mid 40'sI feel that same excitement even now....... might end up disappointed though but hey that is the gameWith the greatest of respect to you WTFiGO....... a date that will always be in my mind is.. 5th Aug 1978 When Bristol City beat Bristol Rovers 6 - 1 at Ashton Gate in front of 9874 this being in the Anglo Scottish CupI travelled up from Poole in Dorset with one of my older brothers for that game it was truly amazing to watch and even more fantastic to be there...... I totally understand how important games against the gas are full stop.I totally understand how important it is to beat the gas too.However the league is the most important thing for our club right now...... I seriously don't wish to see us blow it again this year.I spent my whole formative years supporting a football club that so many snigger at when mentioned........ I have put up with that through all the years, and it is most of em for me, that we have been in the third and fourth division....... most of my early school days in the late 60's early 70's we had nothing much to shout about until we climbed up the tables and ended up in the 'Top Flight'.............Yes!This was as we know followed by our demise......bish bosh down to division four in consecutive seasons but despite that I like you have stuck with it. Yes I'd love to beat the Gas....... don't think I would not be pissed off if they beat us...... but I would still rather BCFC get promoted this year.If I was going to be true to many a City fan comments I'd guess that we will probably lose to the gas and not go up eitherSo you think I am 'emotionally far removed' from you(?)...... well right you are, but I'm not am I eh?I do understand your league stance too........ as for me sod the premier league that's division 1... the championship is division 2 and we are in division 3 ............ I agree, but I also do understand the BCFC v the gassersI still don't think SAB was wrong though.. and I stand by my comments.
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