Mrdc Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/dis...tentPK=19472371For god sake surely the bloke should be close to our subs bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS10 RED Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 He needs match fitness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Youell Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Haven't seen this anywhere else, I'll beleive it when i see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I think it makes perfect sense. Brooker takes 4-5 games to get match fit and this league is no place to carry him right now.Why not have him ready to go and play a full 90 minutes from the start of next month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Seems a sound decision to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh_red Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 good move, isn't going to get into our squad at the moment, so why not send him out to get fit for a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 It'll give him the chance to score against the Gas in the relegation clash at the rugby ground on 5th February - providing it goes ahead (it's raining in Bristol at the moment!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hicksy-BCFC Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Yep, not heard this before but its a decent decision.Be happy for him to play for any club to get some match fitness back.Selling permanently would be madness - loaning him out to play first team football? Totally different.Cheltenham not that far away either so little upheaval for the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Mat Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/dis...tentPK=19472371For god sake surely the bloke should be close to our subs bench.He needs regular games, and he's not going to get that sat on our bench or playing the odd reserve game once a month!The chance of going to Cheltenham and playing maybe half a dozen games would help bring him up to speed and give him the full match fitness he needs.Besides, how can you possibly consider dropping one of Trundle, Byfield or Showunmi from the bench after the way they've all been playing lately? None have let us down, and that wouldn't send out the right signs to the rest of the squad to just drop one and bring back someone who's been out injured for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Head Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 "Standing at 6ft and weighing in at nearly fourteen stone, Brooker would add strength and height to the Cheltenham front line"....and weight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I wouldn't call it madness but I don't agree with it.Every time we've brought him back from injury previously he has not been fully physically recovered or played any reserve football, it was no wonder it took him 4-5 games to look with it. However this time we've not done that, he has played reserve football and had plenty of time. If he can run for 90 minutes he can run for 90 minutes and he did that in the last reserve game.Given our options up front I'd think he was worth a place on the bench getting acclimatised to this level instead of league one again. I'd also want him under the guidance of our medical staff not some other club's just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I think this could benefit everyone concerned. Cheltenham will be getting a very good stiker for a month and Steve Brooker will return match fit (HOPEFULLY)Johnson as always said first team football is better than reserve football and league one is a good level for Brooker whilst hes trying to get the necessary match fitness.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 A good move, for both player and club.The real issue is, will the freak follow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eamer Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I posted this as something I thought would be a good idea in the new transfers forum (where this should have gone).http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=91326 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Head Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I wouldn't call it madness but I don't agree with it.Every time we've brought him back from injury previously he has not been fully physically recovered or played any reserve football, it was no wonder it took him 4-5 games to look with it. However this time we've not done that, he has played reserve football and had plenty of time. If he can run for 90 minutes he can run for 90 minutes and he did that in the last reserve game.Given our options up front I'd think he was worth a place on the bench getting acclimatised to this level instead of league one again. I'd also want him under the guidance of our medical staff not some other club's just in case.No, I think he would get more football at Cheltenham in a month than he would here, he needs matches. As for medical assistance..it's hardly Carlisle he's going to. Shouldn't disrupt him too much. Good move, can always call him back early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Does anyone know whether he can cut it at league level any more? He's been out a long time and it can happen that players out with long term injuries are never the same player. Hope not - but why not let Cheltenham find that out rather than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hicksy-BCFC Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I wouldn't call it madness but I don't agree with it.Every time we've brought him back from injury previously he has not been fully physically recovered or played any reserve football, it was no wonder it took him 4-5 games to look with it. However this time we've not done that, he has played reserve football and had plenty of time. If he can run for 90 minutes he can run for 90 minutes and he did that in the last reserve game.Given our options up front I'd think he was worth a place on the bench getting acclimatised to this level instead of league one again. I'd also want him under the guidance of our medical staff not some other club's just in case.First team experience is very different to reserve team football though mate.I wouldn't expect him to come out of reserve games and straight into Championship matches.A spell of first team football in a lower league (with a couple of goals) would do wonders for what they all call the "match fitness" factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 No, I think he would get more football at Cheltenham in a month than he would here, he needs matches.Why wouldn't he get football here? Our forwards haven't been setting the world on fire, he's exactly what we need leading the line. There's no reason we couldn't play him off the bench a few times and then start him.As for medical assistance..it's hardly Carlisle he's going to. Shouldn't disrupt him too much.I'd rather the medical staff looking after him had Bristol City's interests first not Cheltenham's or any other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh_red Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Does anyone know whether he can cut it at league level any more? He's been out a long time and it can happen that players out with long term injuries are never the same player. Hope not - but why not let Cheltenham find that out rather than us.exactly, rather give him a few competitve games up there and risk letting him break down, than in our team when it actually matters, looks like a win win situation for me, Cheltenham - get a very good player coming back to fitnessBrooker - gets fitness without the ashton gate pressuresCity - get to test out a player to see if he can still cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 First team experience is very different to reserve team football though mate.I wouldn't expect him to come out of reserve games and straight into Championship matches.A spell of first team football in a lower league (with a couple of goals) would do wonders for what they all call the "match fitness" factor.Fitness and sharpness are different things.If he's fit to play 90 minutes he's fit enough to start in the first XI.No, he won't be sharp, but will he get sharp enough for the Championship at the wrong end of league one in a losing side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red chris Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 More madness,surely an unfit Brooker would put in more effort than Showumni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Head Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I'd rather the medical staff looking after him had Bristol City's interests first not Cheltenham's or any other clubs.Why would Cheltenham's medical staff have to look after him - only immediate medical aid to be given. He could report to City staff for anything else. Don't see that's an issue really. Matter of opinion, GJ's and SB's are the ones that count and they must think it's best for all three parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 He needs match fitnessThink you,ll find GJ will have a clause to take him back anytime he wants.......he needs the fitness for sure.Be nice to see him grab some goals to boost his confidence as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Head Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 More madness,surely an unfit Brooker would put in more effort than Showumni??..One thing Enoch does do is put effort in.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hicksy-BCFC Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 More madness,surely an unfit Brooker would put in more effort than ShowumniThat's harsh.He'll be better than Showumni but they'll both put it in.To be fair to him this season, Enoch puts the effort in - I just don't think he is good enough.The Steve Brooker I remember is someone I want to see in our side 100% fit and 100% sharp - its been so long but I can remember he was a cracking player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger22 Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/dis...tentPK=19472371For god sake surely the bloke should be close to our subs bench.I'm probably going to get abused for this, but this is my opinion. I really don't think that Brooker will be any good at this level!!! Am I correct in saying that we are actively looking for a new striker? Or have I dreamt this? If we are, who would be your first choice to sell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 More madness,surely an unfit Brooker would put in more effort than Showumni Idiotic comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenun Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I wouldn't call it madness but I don't agree with it.Every time we've brought him back from injury previously he has not been fully physically recovered or played any reserve football, it was no wonder it took him 4-5 games to look with it. However this time we've not done that, he has played reserve football and had plenty of time. If he can run for 90 minutes he can run for 90 minutes and he did that in the last reserve game.Given our options up front I'd think he was worth a place on the bench getting acclimatised to this level instead of league one again. I'd also want him under the guidance of our medical staff not some other club's just in case.You're right and this is a strange turn of events if Brooker joins Cheltenham.Most City fans that I've talked to believe that Brooker has the quality to succeed at this level, which was demonstrated by his excellent performance against Coventry in the FA Cup 3rd round at the Gate, last season. His ability to hold the ball up and use his upper body strength to beat defenders is a commodity that we've been screaming out for this season, despite our lofty League position. On paper that puts Steve ahead of our existing crop of strikers; so why loan him?I have two views on this. Gary wants to see Brooker sharpen his skills in a lower division, where in theory he'll have more time on the ball, score a hatful of goals and return to Ashton Gate fit and bursting to make an impact on Championship defences.The second is that Gary doesn't rate Brooker as a Championship player because of his suspect knees and is farming out the risk, in case of another breakdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I'm probably going to get abused for this, but this is my opinion. I really don't think that Brooker will be any good at this level!!! Am I correct in saying that we are actively looking for a new striker? Or have I dreamt this? If we are, who would be your first choice to sell?I disagree. If he can get back to the player he was I personally think he's made for the championship.... For the type of player he is, he's quite quick...... although he may not be so quick after all these injuries. Let's hope he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Head Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I disagree. If he can get back to the player he was I personally think he's made for the championship.... For the type of player he is, he's quite quick...... although he may not be so quick after all these injuries. Let's hope he is This is the big question. GJ sees him in training, he must think he needs the matches. When was the last time he played and completed a competitive match, not a reserve match - a long time ago. Give him a month at Cheltenham chuck him in to the frame then. Good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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