Maximum Capacity For A Premiership Ashton Gate

[bh_red]

i think it could work, but it would upset some that sit there

whatever happens we need more facilities in the eastend, i feel sorry for the away fans and our no beer policy.

so you feel soo sorry for the away fans and their lack of facilities? you feel more home fans should be subjected to those facilities? and that away fans should get treated better than the home fans? interesting........ :noexpression:

[EASTEND WURZEL]

So what most peole are saying is;

Keep the players car park and ticket offices where they are and try and fit in away coaches next to the team coaches and players cars. Funnel City fans in the Atyeo/Dolman corner, let away fans have half of the best serviced stand in the ground. Move the home end to an old, badly serviced stand with shite views, brilliant now where do I sign

In all seriousness, I can kind of understand why some would want this but I really don't think its practical or feasible and is all a bit rose tinted.

coaches would park where they do now , by the ship and away fans escorted straight accross winterstoke road and directly into the Atyeo away side. As for the players cars would you feel more aggrieved if one of our players cars were damaged or the hundreds of supporters cars open to the elements in the club car park. H block is now unreserved and is always the last to sell out. Its only a question of moving over slightly and you would retain the wonderfull facility's and magnificent view on offer.

[tombcfc]

I used to have my season ticket bang in the middle of the Dolman, brilliant view, could chat to my friends about the game, very pleasant.

Now I'm in the Eastend... the views fine, I can see the game and everything that happens (unless I happen to have a pillar blocking a corner of the goal, but that's not important). The atmosphere however is unbelievable and makes me look forward to going to a game so much more!!!!

I think part of the reason the Eastend is so good for atmosphere is because of the presence of the away fans. It would definately still be good without them, but it's always fun to get a bit of banter going with them as long as nothing gets out of hand.

However I don't think there are enough people who will go for atmosphere over view to make it possible to fill the Eastend with home fans. The majority of "extra fans" we would get f we were to be promoted would be there simply to watch football and won't even necesarily be supporting Bristol City!!!

I think, as long as there are no regulations concerning percentages of away fans, we should keep it as it is.

[bh_red]

basically you don't want to lose your seat

personally speaking......No,I don't......majority of the blocks in the atyeo are full of season ticket holders?

I'm yet to see a sensible suggestion on how around 1500-2000 people from the atyeo could be happy about being forced out of their Atyeo seat of many years? and moved into a lower standard home stand for the sake of 2/3 seasons?

when your moving a couple of hundred people from the williams stand to another part very close by of the same stand, or having the option to pay more to keep your seat, so that the club can introduce more corporate facilities, you can accept it more because their is a genuie reason for it to the benefit of the club.

but for this suggestion? I'm yet to see who it would benefit? I'm also yet to see many people queuing up saying "it's a great idea" apart from those who are already in the east end?

[tom_burnham]

i don't go to a football match for the good facilities....or for a good view. i got to a football match for the atmosphere and the passion. The atmosphere in the atyeo is nowhere near as good as a packed east end.

[bringbacktherobin]

bh_red the club will benefit with being able to sell more tickets.

[Frome Valley]

If City thought it would maximise profits i am sure they would consider it as this may get more fans into the stadium but it won't because no doubt the police would still require x amount of segregation.

[bh_red]

i don't go to a football match for the good facilities....or for a good view. i got to a football match for the atmosphere and the passion. The atmosphere in the atyeo is nowhere near as good as a packed east end.

that's your view.....but there are many other view out there.

[bh_red]

If City thought it would maximise profits i am sure they would consider it as this may get more fans into the stadium but it won't because no doubt the police would still require x amount of segregation.

exactly........all that would be happening is that the empty segregation area is being moved from stand to another stand, just because the segration is in a different stand doesn't mean it won't still be there.

it's just a case of trying to move the problem from stand to another

[bh_red]

bh_red the club will benefit with being able to sell more tickets.

yes no doubt, because the will have lost fans annoyed by having to move from a decent stand, to a sub standard stand.

surely my suggestion will work in exactly the same way?

I just can't believe that some actually believe this to be a sensisble idea??? it's complete and utter madness!

still.....if the club gets to the prem, they have to find some way to shaft the fans, why not force them out of their current seats and into a worse stand? that should help alienate the fanbase!

[bringbacktherobin]

bh_red, in your eyes its a sub standard stand.

[EASTEND WURZEL]

exactly........all that would be happening is that the empty segregation area is being moved from stand to another stand, just because the segration is in a different stand doesn't mean it won't still be there.

it's just a case of trying to move the problem from stand to another

as you are all such nice people in the Atyeo there would not be the need for such huge segregation. The club know all the "degenerates" are in the Eastend.

before you point out , yes i'm a degenerate

[no1cityfan_tucks]

Just another Pro EastEnd thread. Why do the pro eastend people not understand that the vast majority do not want to sit in that stand. The percentage of forum members who are eastend fans is high, but of the overall City support, it is very very low.

Views are poor and so are the facilities, even if the atmosphere is good.

Never EVER a goer!

[old_man_terry]

Gaining promotion to the premiership would need a ground re-think if the club are to maximise their gate revenue. If the club were to give the entire Eastend back to home fans and then segregate the ateyo.(ala the old park end. this would maximise Ashton Gate's capacity as the eastend has 5500 seats and we could sell every one plus A block by the Williams stand . Home fans in blocks A to HALF OF E so they surround the players tunnel, then some rows of segregation and away fans in the rest of E to H. remember the ateyo only has 4249 even if you take 500 seats for segregation it would still leave us with a match day capacity of 20997. Making Fratton Park still the lowest in the Premier league. This would also give the home fans no restrictions in terms of using the walkway behind the Eastend and allow improved access to Winterstoke road car park. Add to that the reduced policing costs for the club as there would be no away fans in the EE for our "Ciderised" young uns to provoke.

Re rejuvenated support in the Atyeo with the added spice of the close proximity to the away supporters. Raw passionate support from 5500 "Eastenders", together inspiring Ashton Gate into a fortress for our return to the "top flight"

complete and utter madness!

let's annoy people by booting them out of the atyeo for the sake of the away fans, if away fans are to move anywhere, the atyeo is possible the most stupid place suggested, they are fine where they are now, but the club just need to find a short-term solution until the new ground is built, best suggestion is solid fencing to seperate home/away fans in the east end from roof to floor, cheap, simple, effective.

[reddog]

Why would I want to replace my comfortable, unrestricted view,easily accessed seat in the Atyeo, for a bolted-on-the-terrace backless seat with minimal leg room and 6 posts to obstruct my view? This is fine if you are of the younger element and wish to stand etc for the whole game, but don't forget us older ones. Standing for 2 hours at Layer Road nearly killed me!!!

[Frome Valley]

the club just need to find a short-term solution until the new ground is built, best suggestion is solid fencing to seperate home/away fans in the east end from roof to floor, cheap, simple, effective.

Too simple and must be a catch in it.

[EASTEND WURZEL]

Why would I want to replace my comfortable, unrestricted view,easily accessed seat in the Atyeo, for a bolted-on-the-terrace backless seat with minimal leg room and 6 posts to obstruct my view? This is fine if you are of the younger element and wish to stand etc for the whole game, but don't forget us older ones. Standing for 2 hours at Layer Road nearly killed me!!!

but you did enjoy it didn't you........go on be honest!

[bh_red]

as you are all such nice people in the Atyeo there would not be the need for such huge segregation. The club know all the "degenerates" are in the Eastend.

before you point out , yes i'm a degenerate

typical "chip on shoulder" response, it's nothing to do with "degenerates" it's do with whatever stand away fans are housed there will be the idiots who want to get at the away fans and just shout abuse at them all game, regardless of what stand it is, if away fans were in the atyeo those people would just move there.

[bringbacktherobin]

reddog, there is loads of leg room in the east end. I actually think you get the most in the whole ground.

[EASTEND WURZEL]

typical "chip on shoulder" response, it's nothing to do with "degenerates" it's do with whatever stand away fans are housed there will be the idiots who want to get at the away fans and just shout abuse at them all game, regardless of what stand it is, if away fans were in the atyeo those people would just move there.

i'm not sure if they would, give up being a part of 5500 vocal fans bouncing round the ground to just give ###### signs at someone. not sure but maybe your right

[bh_red]

bh_red, in your eyes its a sub standard stand.

in direct comparsion to the Atyeo.

Yes.

View - Ateyo Wins

Food/Drink facilities (ok bad all round the ground) but Atyeo Wins

Toilets - Ayteo Wins

plus you have the concourse area inside the atyeo to get out of the weather pre-match/halftime which although not important at times is useful

Sky Sports News at Half Time (added bonus doesn't matter either way)

Atmosphere - East End

personally......view wins over atmoshpere everytime for me! looking back I can't stand the East End and that terrible view and no seat backs, it's a crap old stand which I've personally no interest in sitting in, the majority of the crowd agree, hence the small number that were actually willing to transfer their ST's into the stand at start of season.

[reddog]

reddog, there is loads of leg room in the east end. I actually think you get the most in the whole ground.

That's not how I remember it from my years of sitting that end behind post 2!!

[reddog]

but you did enjoy it didn't you........go on be honest!

Which one?

[bh_red]

i'm not sure if they would, give up being a part of 5500 vocal fans bouncing round the ground to just give ###### signs at someone. not sure but maybe your right

would 5500 fans go in there though?

looking at home many switched their ST's at start of the season?.......I'd say a LARGE majority would get their ST's in any other stand but the East End? and it will became a stand filled mainly with POTD

[westy]

But if the main problem is getting away fans in and out, this shows it can be done and has been done in the past.

Yep but there used to be alot more trouble in the past aswell + with SL trying to keep police and council happy with the tough EE rules then i don't think he will take any risk by putting away fans there. Could you imagine how much extra policing it would require - never going to happen

[EASTEND WURZEL]

would 5500 fans go in there though?

looking at home many switched their ST's at start of the season?.......I'd say a LARGE majority would get their ST's in any other stand but the East End? and it will became a stand filled mainly with POTD

if you had an option of going to watch PL football and seeing the elite of european players up close would you care about the the que for the coffee? ........they would sell like hot cakes , there wouldnt be enough.

[Flaxbourton Red]

so you feel soo sorry for the away fans and their lack of facilities? you feel more home fans should be subjected to those facilities? and that away fans should get treated better than the home fans? interesting........ :noexpression:

yes i feel sorry for away fans, there is a lack of drinking establishments catering for them around ashton gate, when we go away I'm sure we'd feel aggreaved at a lack of beer. They call that empathy.

the eastend facilities should be improved for all as it generates income.

[Flaxbourton Red]

the club just need to find a short-term solution until the new ground is built, best suggestion is solid fencing to seperate home/away fans in the east end from roof to floor, cheap, simple, effective.

the idea isn't madness as most ideas need some sort of thought, otherwise we wouldn't progress if we just chucked out new ideas.

however going back to the current situation in the eastend i am in complete agreement with the above poster

this is a first,

I may not recover from this.

[Bris Red]

Reddog has made a fair comment not everyone likes to stand. I think we need to relise that the clubs support simply does not have 2,000+ fans that are willing to stand and sing like a lot of clubs have. We have a best 1500 fans that would be willing to buy a seaeson ticket in a stand and actually stand up all game and sing for the whole season. I think the best soultion would be to give man u liverpool arsenal etc 2,000 ticktes in EE and give the rest to city.

[cidersam]

Surely if fans in the atyeo wanted to sit in the east end then they would of bought a season ticket for the east end this year?

Plus the facilities in the east end is awful. Will be a nightmare getting any food, also going to the toilets. plus at half time theres no room to stretch your legs at least in the atyeo you can go to the concourse or even outside at half time.

This is a shocking idea. and would upset too many loyal fans.