BS4 on Tour... Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: This was one I had when I was a nipper, always liked us in white and black away Yep - me too - it will always remind me of Cheese's immense header at Arsenal... Never tire of watching this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 40 minutes ago, Iron Man said: Can you seriously imagine Newcastle being happy that they're away kit is red? Dunno - you'll have to ask them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMS Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 33 minutes ago, Kotsy said: I know that OTIB isn't representative of the Bristol City fan base as a whole, but as DollyMarie's opinion doesn't even seem to be representative of OTIB then I hope it has no effect on their decision. The person in question is a member of the Supporters Trust and Fans Advisory Network. As a member of both (?) would involve passing on a view that a blue away kit would disgust/dismay a section of support. It does not matter if that is a minority of any section of support, representing fans is part of the Supporters Trust aims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 3 hours ago, Dollymarie said: I've seen rumoured mock ups and based on the rumoured mock ups I asked what they thought they were bloody playing at. It's all gone quiet since then. That's your opinion, which is fine - representatives of BCFC have worn blue recently and I wouldn't have a problem with a blue away kit similar to the colour modelled by everyone's fave ex-manager below... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789000 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 9 minutes ago, WTMS said: The person in question is a member of the Supporters Trust and Fans Advisory Network. As a member of both (?) would involve passing on a view that a blue away kit would disgust/dismay a section of support. It does not matter if that is a minority of any section of support, representing fans is part of the Supporters Trust aims. Sounds to me that she reacted on her views alone, rather than those of fellow supporters. I do not recall seeing any poll on the topic aiming to gauge opinion on the blue kit. From this topic alone (which appears to be the only place that fans have reacted to a potential blue kit), the majority seem to be in favour of a blue kit, so I hope that she made it clear that it would only be a minority of the support who would take badly to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMS Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 17 minutes ago, Kotsy said: Sounds to me that she reacted on her views alone, rather than those of fellow supporters. I do not recall seeing any poll on the topic aiming to gauge opinion on the blue kit. From this topic alone (which appears to be the only place that fans have reacted to a potential blue kit), the majority seem to be in favour of a blue kit, so I hope that she made it clear that it would only be a minority of the support who would take badly to it. The Trust member would not need a poll. The aims of the trust are to represent fans whether it is a minority or not. Anybody with any savvy would understand a blue kit would be unpopular with fans. On Otib there are individuals on otib would would like to see a blue kit because it would piss people off. I would ask Bristol Sport why is the above necessary at all? What would a blue kit say about the manner Bristol Sport views the traditions of the football clubs fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 7 minutes ago, WTMS said: The Trust member would not need a poll. The aims of the trust are to represent fans whether it is a minority or not. Anybody with any savvy would understand a blue kit would be unpopular with fans. On Otib there are individuals on otib would would like to see a blue kit because it would piss people off. I would ask Bristol Sport why is the above necessary at all? What would a blue kit say about the manner Bristol Sport views the traditions of the football clubs fans? But if there were two minorities of equal size, one that wanted blue kit and one that didn't, with the majority not giving a fig either way, how would you solve that issue? You can't please everybody all of the time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 37 minutes ago, Kotsy said: Sounds to me that she reacted on her views alone, rather than those of fellow supporters. I do not recall seeing any poll on the topic aiming to gauge opinion on the blue kit. From this topic alone (which appears to be the only place that fans have reacted to a potential blue kit), the majority seem to be in favour of a blue kit, so I hope that she made it clear that it would only be a minority of the support who would take badly to it. I'd say more like there are a very small number vocally in favour of it. Or not against it. Most readers of the thread probably wouldn't bother to comment as they'd see the whole the idea of City in a blue kit as so unlikely and ridiculous. For the record Dolly certainly accurately represented my thoughts on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 36 minutes ago, Kotsy said: Sounds to me that she reacted on her views alone, rather than those of fellow supporters. I do not recall seeing any poll on the topic aiming to gauge opinion on the blue kit. From this topic alone (which appears to be the only place that fans have reacted to a potential blue kit), the majority seem to be in favour of a blue kit, so I hope that she made it clear that it would only be a minority of the support who would take badly to it. The majority on a thread that has two pages you mean? I wouldn't even say it was a majority, more like 60/40. Like Nogbad she perfectly represented my views on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789000 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, Iron Man said: The majority on a thread that has two pages you mean? I wouldn't even say it was a majority, more like 60/40. Like Nogbad she perfectly represented my views on the matter. 60/40, so more than half then, i.e. a majority. Find me another place that is discussing the blue away kit and we'll incorporate those views into the discussion. If it's not clear already, she has not represented my views on the matter. Now what was it about the ST representing the views of all fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolBEAT Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Must be soon if we are going out on Pre-Season next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 11 minutes ago, Iron Man said: The majority on a thread that has two pages you mean? I wouldn't even say it was a majority, more like 60/40. Like Nogbad she perfectly represented my views on the matter. If 52/48 is considered a "mandate" then 60/40 is definitely a majority! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 As long as it isn't anything close to sags blue then that's fine. Nothing wrong with navy blue, it's a shade that's closer to black than it is anything that them lot play in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 19 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: I'd say more like there are a very small number vocally in favour of it. Or not against it. Most readers of the thread probably wouldn't bother to comment as they'd see the whole the idea of City in a blue kit as so unlikely and ridiculous. For the record Dolly certainly accurately represented my thoughts on the matter. It sounds petty to say it, but I really believe it depends on the shade of blue. Navy blue is no more associated with Rovers than any other colour. I previously said I would like to see a "Bristol Blue Glass" kit, as a nod to the City's heritage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 No team owns the rights to any particular colour. I'd love to see us play in a blue away strip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMS Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 45 minutes ago, richwwtk said: But if there were two minorities of equal size, one that wanted blue kit and one that didn't, with the majority not giving a fig either way, how would you solve that issue? You can't please everybody all of the time.... The question would be the same. What sort of club does something that it knows will dismay fans? Bristol City have avoided using a blue kit for decades. It is a tradition upheld by fans and club legends like Beryl Fudge in the past. You may think nothing of this, but some do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 9 minutes ago, WTMS said: The question would be the same. What sort of club does something that it knows will dismay fans? Bristol City have avoided using a blue kit for decades. It is a tradition upheld by fans and club legends like Beryl Fudge in the past. You may think nothing of this, but some do. OK. Whilst I, personally, would have no issue with a blue away kit and maybe even find it a bit funny, I can appreciate that it may upset some people and therefore would not complain if it didn't happen. I'm interested in your argument that minorities should be catered for in the club's decisions though........ 53 minutes ago, richwwtk said: The aims of the trust are to represent fans whether it is a minority or not. If you really believe this, how would you cater for two diametrically opposed minorities on any subject, not just kit colour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Iron Man said: As much as I mock the fewers you cannot compare the man utd Rochdale "rivalry" to city and rovers. It's much more closer and fiercer. Can you seriously imagine Newcastle being happy that they're away kit is red, the same with Southampton and Portsmouth fans? And on top of other things apart from 1909 when have we EVER had a blue away kit? After the backlash of the hashtags and DollyMarie telling them that a blue away kit is disastrous I pray they change their mind. I don't think Southampton fans would be happy with a red away kit, but for a different reason than you're making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 1 hour ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Yep - for me we should have always kept this as our away kit... Has to be the black socks as well, looks better than white ones Germany has worn that a few times in the Euros and always makes me think of City being in the top flight. That said, I wouldn't be against blue at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 The irony here is, of course, that with (by common admission) both otib and the sc&t not being totally representative of the fanbase as a whole, the only way you gauge if a blue kit would work is to get it on sale for as long as possible, and (potentially) by Dolly raising valid concerns over some of the fanbase, the club have delayed any proposed launch and not given a blue kit ample opportunity to sell, thus the fans "not accepting it" becomes self-fulfilling. Personally, no issue with a royal blue, non quartered version but no problem with Dolly putting her point forward (if that was what happened) and she's right to do so After all, as has been seen, not everything should go to referendum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Now I'm a traditionalist when it comes to my football,but the more I think about it,I think navy blue and white would look pretty good,as long as it's navy blue and not one shade lighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 There has been a poll, 75% voted "No" or "Never": Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 I think the right shade of blue will be fine. We are a part of Bristol Sport now and the rugby are in blue at home and red away; it would follow for me that all facets of Bristol Sport do the same one way or the other. Bristol Sport is an excellent product and I think we need to embrace this fully. Obviously a new kit won't be blue and white; more like navy and dark/black so who gives a fig what the North Bristol few think? I personally would still prefer the Gow era colours or something similar to the black kit last year - loved that top with the "Liverpool Tinnion" kit reminder. But then again, I would still prefer the robins badge but times change. Going back to Bristol Sport, I am slightly unhappy that there is not sections of Bristol Rugby blue seating in the new West Stand - I thought that would be a good statement to make about this group and start us moving on from the still widely held belief that the Gate is just the home of the mighty reds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 I'll be very disappointed if it's not Royal Blue now tbh, I like the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, Neo said: Going back to Bristol Sport, I am slightly unhappy that there is not sections of Bristol Rugby blue seating in the new West Stand - I thought that would be a good statement to make about this group and start us moving on from the still widely held belief that the Gate is just the home of the mighty reds. Fishing.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Blue would be an awful shout. No thanks. If they go with blue away kit after the horrid new badge & hashtags on the shirt I think it'll be the worst sales on replica shirts they've had for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTMS Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 19 minutes ago, richwwtk said: OK. Whilst I, personally, would have no issue with a blue away kit and maybe even find it a bit funny, I can appreciate that it may upset some people and therefore would not complain if it didn't happen. I'm interested in your argument that minorities should be catered for in the club's decisions though........ Maybe somebody ( yourself?) would like to outline what the benefits are of knowingly doing something supporters would not like? In answer to your question. City have avoided blue kits for decades because posing fans off, a minority or not simply was not on/ a step too far, As good a reason as any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 10 minutes ago, Milo said: There has been a poll, 75% voted "No" or "Never": 75% of our entire fanbase. All 203 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, WTMS said: Maybe somebody ( yourself?) would like to outline what the benefits are of knowingly doing something supporters would not like? In answer to your question. City have avoided blue kits for decades because posing fans off, a minority or not simply was not on/ a step too far, As good a reason as any. People don't like change but get over things quickly, and would probably grow to like it. If it's beneficial for BS in regards to us and the rugby lot being synchronised then it may be a positive move for the club ie marketing, branding etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, WTMS said: Maybe somebody ( yourself?) would like to outline what the benefits are of knowingly doing something supporters would not like? In answer to your question. City have avoided blue kits for decades because posing fans off, a minority or not simply was not on/ a step too far, As good a reason as any. So what about when we removed the robin badge in the mid 90s? A minority of supporters were against this but it still went ahead and was well received Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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