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2 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Personally I don't think it will have any material impact. 

Yes I’m not so sure either. Indeed some may have renewed precisely because of the ‘renewals- only’ policy, i.e. they may be concerned that if they leave the SS now, they might never be able to go back there again in the future. As I say, though, it will be interesting to see when tickets go on sale for the first match.

8 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

As the SS is constantly sold out, couldn't they implement this system on a stand by stand basis? 

Eventually the plan is for us to be successful so these issues will pop up. Why not future proof ourselves now whilst also dealing with a current issue? 

It will be interesting to see how many POTD tickets are available for sale in the SS for the first match of the season - I presume that will be the first time we will know how many SS ticket holders have not renewed/have moved to the family stand.

This is the Spurs rule for example:

1.5 Seat Utilisation

With huge demand for tickets to our home matches, and in order to maximise access to tickets, we shall continue to monitor the utilisation of Season Tickets throughout the 2024/25 season.

In an effort to increase ticket availability to One Hotspur Members, Season Ticket Holders will be responsible for ensuring that every effort is made for their Season Ticket seat to be occupied at home Premier League fixtures.

As well as attendance in person, a seat will be considered utilised if it is listed for sale on Ticket Exchange or shared with a friend or family member by using Ticket Share or Ticket Upgrade (see Section 6.3).

To be guaranteed a Season Ticket for the 2025/26 season, supporters will need to ensure that their seat has been utilised, as detailed above, for no less than 15 of the 19 home Premier League fixtures. The Club will work with any supporter at risk of not meeting this threshold during the season.

The Club will also be providing an amnesty period during the 2024/25 season for Season Ticket Holders who do not regularly attend matches themselves to transfer the ownership of their seat.

8 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

I think there are many ways to do it. Miss 5 games in a row and you get your ticket deactivated for one game for example. Losing the seat would only happen following lots of periods of missed games. Pretty sure it's Brighton that does this. 

I think the big issue is these kids tickets. I don't think the increase will stop people buying them just to have a spare seat next to them. Because ultimately if they upgrade the shirt to an adults shirt then they are still only paying what 60 quid for the seat? 

Also there is the issue of adults are using these kids tickets. I've seen many people openly boast about it on various platforms. 

For the genuine people these people are spoiling it for them. 

No mate. Didn't watch it. Was engaged doing something else over the weekend. 

From what I have seen, clubs who have a use it or lose it policy re season tickets tend to combine it with one important caveat - they say if you advertise the seat for sale on their ticket exchange site, that is classed as using it (whether anyone buys it or not). Same if you forward it to a mate. That feels entirely appropriate/reasonable and it would be good if City create a site like this in the future. As @phantom has said though, it is unlikely to happen until there are regular sell outs as until then it makes more commercial sense for City to focus on selling the seats that haven’t been sold yet rather then spend money reselling the ones that have already been sold. 

Just now, Rocking Red Cyril said:

So has the club done anything to avoid the empty seats of unused season tickets 

The focus is on the South Stand. They are hopping that the following works:

1. Higher % price increase in the SS v other stands (to discourage purchase if not going to use it).

2. Even higher price increase for kids in the SS to discourage unused kids’ tickets there (can move to cheaper family stand).

3. No new season tickets in SS. 

4. All of the above to free up tickets for POTD fans.

Time will tell if that will work. Plus if the TV deal moves a lot of kick off times around, there may be more season tickets holders who can’t attend which may negate some of the above.

17 minutes ago, Fuber said:

Its slightly vague - as it could also be barbed to insinuate that JL had spoken to BT, thereby that BT should or would have backed NP.
The latter didn't happen; and I'd be shocked if, as appointed technical director, that BT hadn't known NP was going to be sacked before it was announced.

Nige was just commenting on the deconditioned point.

Of course BT would have been told about the sacking before it was announced but 1. that’s a different point, 2. It would have been ridiculous if he wasn’t told and 3. there is no way that the decision to sack was anyone’s other than the Lansdowns. 

1 hour ago, LondonBristolian said:

Really interesting points Allardyce makes about the confidentiality clause. Quite shocking that Pearson learned about the views and results on deconditioning via the interviews rather than anyone raising it before...

Actually that points the finger at JL rather than BT as NP says that if JL had any issues re deconditioning he could have spoken to BT to understand the position. 

12 minutes ago, Cov 77 said:

I don’t think they want to sell anything like 18k if previous utterings are anything to go by, I think nearer 15k tops , whatever their reasoning . 
 

To be fair I think fans groups have also pushed the changes regarding the south stand as a way to improve the atmosphere, to many cheap kids tickets not always attending for whatever reason leaving big gaps . 

Yes Gavin Marshall said they want to increase sales to just over 15k on the FBC podcast. 

23 minutes ago, Coombsy said:

Could you not have renewed your season ticket and do a seat move yesterday?

 

South Stand only available to those who already have a season ticket in the South Stand. 

14 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

And tbh that kind of worries me. I’ve not seen enough in Twine over his games to date that he’s a worthwhile signing. I don’t concur that he’s “unlocked” Knight - his movement isn’t great, he’s not drifting into spaces, he’s just “there” - no more than any other AM (or even AM) would be. A presser like today was Liam giving “come here” vibes to Twine and Burnley will have picked up on that and negotiate accordingly - and I’m not sure Scott is worth what they will want.

And again, in terms of results, correlation doesn’t equal causation. Scott has shown a real lack of desire at times and has also tended to be - in short - a bit of a whiner. He gets fouls but it’s not a “Scott” in drawing fouls - it’s going to ground easy, getting some, and not getting others and being affronted by it.

I said when we signed Twine that the best case may have been an underwhelming loan spell which kept the price down. We’ve got that. But we’ve also got a head coach making “**** me” eyes at him which pushes the price back up. Worst of all worlds.

Not sure that I agree that his movement isn’t great - I think that aspect has looked quite positive (although team mates don’t always seem to be able to pick the pass to him). I don’t think he lacks desire. And he’s unlocked Knight in the sense that Knight can play deeper (and better) with Twine in the team. But yes he’s not been world beating by any stretch and he lacks physicality. For me it should come down the price he will cost (if Burnley want to sell him), whether we are likely to get anyone better/similar for that price, and whether if we go for Twine we can still afford to get a number 9 who will bring the physicality that others in the squad, including Twine, lack. 

14 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

That made my notes!  Laying his cards on the table.

And possibly also linked to Twine - he wants him. 

I particularly liked the bit where he said that we can talk about being ambitious (which is why he joined us) but we have to show that in terms of our actions re the squad in the summer. Over to you SL. 

Pleased Hull are winning. If they see it out, they should be up for it v Ipswich at the weekend as play offs still on. 

11 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said:

Isn’t there an EFL rule that says a certain % of stadium capacity needs to be held back for POTD?

Not aware of any. Good to have a split though so that a broader range of fans can attend  - imagine the uproar if the whole ground was sold to season ticket holders only. 15k season ticket holders and 8k POTD (home fans) feels like a reasonable balance. 

7 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Personally I don't like it. It's the approach the big clubs are doing now. Prioritising potd. 

When we ultimately struggle again then the club will be begging fans to buy season tickets and I'll laugh at that. Need to get the balance right. 

 

We aren’t prioritising POTD though. As mentioned above, Marshall said we are hoping to sell slightly more season tickets for next season (just over 15k).

Just now, phantom said:

This happens every season 

We lose a %, but a new % come on board 

Agree. And some don’t come on board until half season tickets go on sale (some of the current 15k season ticket holders won’t have bought until December)

1 minute ago, spudski said:

Just trying to make out

Oooo errr - I didn’t think they went that far! 

1 hour ago, eardun said:

Of course we don’t know what the season ticket cap is next year either. They have been quite upfront about the fact there is a cap but unknown if this cap allows for more, same or less season ticket holders next year. 

Just got the answer to my own question by starting to listen to the FBC podcast with Gavin Marshall. He says they are hoping to increase season tickets slightly by selling a bit more than 15k. 

Probably take place when FA cup replays would have taken place. 

7 minutes ago, Street red said:

Yeah that makes sense but I think they are still down from this season ticket holders as people haven't renewed. 

Of course we don’t know what the season ticket cap is next year either. They have been quite upfront about the fact there is a cap but unknown if this cap allows for more, same or less season ticket holders next year. 

3 minutes ago, Street red said:

So is 12000 down on last year before general sale? I would have thought if everyone renewed it would be nearer 14k I can't remember the actual figure for this season.

People above are saying above that this is more than the same stage last year (makes sense as presumably there are more people who could renew this year ie less season ticket holders in 2022-23 v 2023-24)

2 minutes ago, petehinton said:

I’m confused, how can the south stand be “sold out” if they aren’t letting anyone buy STs there?!

Yes they could have phrased this differently but I guess they are reminding members that they can’t buy in the south stand 

15 minutes ago, Swede said:

I've renewed my ticket. Its a 50 - 60 mile round trip for me and I still work so I can't make all of the games especially some midweek games.

By renewing my season ticket I am supporting the club whether I attend all of the matches or not, its my choice. I really can't understand all of the fuss with people not attending and leaving seats empty. There's usually other areas not occupied so what's the problem? Non attendees are counted in the attendance anyway and if its a high profile match them I'm sure the non attendees would be minimal.

I don’t have an issue with it either. What would be good though is if as some point City could launch a site where you could make your seat available to purchase by other fans when you can’t attend (as some other clubs do). Fans won’t always have a friend or family member who can go to the match concerned so the current forwarding option could not be used - a ticket exchange site would widen the pool of people who could take the seat. 

1 minute ago, City Rocker said:

Thanks but that link just takes me to a page summary of my tickets and history, no options to move seats 

Are you doing this?

”selecting your Season Ticket under the “Season Tickets” tab and then selecting the “Replace Seat” button.”

To be fair to them the comm on this point in the Q&As couldn’t have been much clearer:

“When Season Tickets go on sale on Monday, March 18th you will be able to see all available seats within the stadium. If the seat you wish to move to is available at this point, we recommend you select and purchase the new seat and not renew your current seat. If the seat you wish to move to isn’t available, we recommend you renew your current seat. Once the Renew Your Seat deadline on Tuesday, April 23rd (12pm) has passed, there may be further seats that become available. These will only be available from the Move Your Seat period starting at 10am Wednesday, April 24th. 
If you wish to move your seat after this point, you can do so by clicking here, selecting your Season Ticket under the “Season Tickets” tab and then selecting the “Replace Seat” button. You will then be able to browse all available seats and move your seat. 
Alternatively, you can contact Supporter Services on 0117 963 0600 who will be able to assist.
Please note, you will not be able to move into the South Stand.”